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Have you tried other -XAPB chemicals?

I'd be really interested in hearing how you feel physically and emotionally after a week. Side effects, noted depression or dizziness, etc.

I have tried 6-APB but thats it. Im more into a dopamine-euphoria from drug use, I tend not too like how psychedelics make me feel, so Ive kind of steered clear of the APBs. However 5-MAPB caught my eye and I figured I would try it.

As far as after effects go I cant say, its only been 1 day. But it feels damn similar to taking MDA. The come down was 3 or 4 hours, and all the after effects so far are on par with what MDMA or MDA would be like the day after a roll or trip.
Ill report back in a day or so as I learn more about how it has affected my body.

I did notice some vasoconstriction, my feet occasionally tried going numb, and seemed to be colder than the rest of my body. So keep an eye out for that, my heart was PUMPING fast and hard, I wouldnt doubt it if theres some underlying vasoconstriction here, possibly a heavy 5HT2b agonist.
 
I have never had the pleasure of real MDA sadly. I like 6-APB but wish it were more dopamine-y, and found 6-APDB to be kind of useless on its own. Sounds like 5-MAPB is pretty good at what it does.
 
So after getting myself a gram of 5-MAPB on a whim, and doing an allergy test last week, I decided to snort up ~100mg tonight. Purchased from what I consider a very reputable vendor (please no fucking PMs regarding that) This is a fun chem. Its very very similar to MDA in its effects profile. MDA has a slight bit more body high, and a teensy bit more psychedelia, namely closed eye visuals for me.

I was thoroughly stimulated, both amp-wise, and psyche-wise. The psychdelic aspect felt extremely similar to MDA, or perhaps a light dose of a gram of mushrooms.
I could easily see this becoming an MDA replacement. Id wager that 70mg 5-MAPB + 30mg of some generic stimulant (or even 4-FA) would make for an incredible time.

Sex drive was increased, however not as much as substituted cathinones increase it for me, also it was EXTREMELY difficult to maintain a hard penis. Like literally almost impossible to stay hard for more than a minute or two.... which sucked. However it didnt have any negative effects on my bladder and urinary system which cathinones do to me in large amounts.

Like I said, this was very damn similar to MDA, with a bit less body high, and a tad bit less "true" psychedelia. Still a winning chemical though, and I will definitely be putting the rest of my gram to use in the coming months. The total "main course" lasted about 3 hours (tops. ) The come up was only 20 minutes, but keep in mind I insufflated it. I know some people in this thread have discussed having powder so fine that it was unsnortable. I have come across "6-APB" powder in the past that functioned exactly the same. I ended up flushing it. The 5-MAPB I received was a fine powder, already crushed, but wasnt too fine that it still went up the nose fine. The after effects were a solid 2-3 hours, however I took a mirtazapine to help sleep.

Redosing really dose wonders. I know that when I redose with MDMA, its hard for me to get any noticeable boost, merely a prolonging of current effects. But redosing 5-MAPB, even small 20mg amounts, can really throw it back into the trip pretty easily.

All that said.... this chemical is EXTREMELY close in structure to MDMA, and MDA and the effects are very similar. Treat this as such. Just because its cheap and not "technically" illegal per se, it can still drain your monoamines, and screw with your day to day function. I would restrict use of this to once a month.

Id be happy to answer any questions regarding this chem. Obviously I cant say with certainty it was what my source claimed, however I have good reason to believe it was, and the effects were a bit different from any similar-in-structure RC I have tried in the past.

Cheers.

Nice description.

Im a bit curious in that you say you were thoroughly stimulated and yet you want to add 4-fa which is mostly stimulant by comparison. What are you hoping to gain with the addition of the 4-fa?

Also I see you mention the sex drive piece with respect to substituted cathinones. Between methylone and 5-mapb which would you prefer for a night in with the lady and why?

Thanks.
 
Please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me people who have tried this are almost all labeling it as the most similar thing to MDMA they know, perhaps even indistinguishable (even dosage is the same), and even more so than any other k-xAPyB... Am I understanding correctly?

How does it compare to methylone?
 
I have tried 6-APB but thats it. Im more into a dopamine-euphoria from drug use, I tend not too like how psychedelics make me feel, so Ive kind of steered clear of the APBs. However 5-MAPB caught my eye and I figured I would try it.

As far as after effects go I cant say, its only been 1 day. But it feels damn similar to taking MDA. The come down was 3 or 4 hours, and all the after effects so far are on par with what MDMA or MDA would be like the day after a roll or trip.
Ill report back in a day or so as I learn more about how it has affected my body.

I did notice some vasoconstriction, my feet occasionally tried going numb, and seemed to be colder than the rest of my body. So keep an eye out for that, my heart was PUMPING fast and hard, I wouldnt doubt it if theres some underlying vasoconstriction here, possibly a heavy 5HT2b agonist.


Is there anything that can be taken to counteract vasoconstriction?
 
Does this material have a distinct appearance or odor?

Has anyone had different batches? If so was the appearance and/or odor consistent?

Thanks.

Mine was a white powder (the 5 and 6 apb I've had was were both brown but not the same brown and the 5-apdb was also white but more fluffy). All the (m)ap(d)bs I've tried had a distinct taste so I could tell them apart just by taste. Not sure about the odor.

I know some people in this thread have discussed having powder so fine that it was unsnortable. I have come across "6-APB" powder in the past that functioned exactly the same. I ended up flushing it. The 5-MAPB I received was a fine powder, already crushed, but wasnt too fine that it still went up the nose fine.
My 6-apb was the same... you could snort it if you really wanted to, but it was disgusting and didn't really hit faster/harder than oral. Maybe the 6-apb hcl I've seen on a few rc websites is better for snorting?

Is there anything that can be taken to counteract vasoconstriction?
Tbh it never caused much vasoconstriction for me.
 
Please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me people who have tried this are almost all labeling it as the most similar thing to MDMA they know, perhaps even indistinguishable (even dosage is the same), and even more so than any other k-xAPyB... Am I understanding correctly?
Sounds about right to me. It's a lot more potent though and may be less forgiving to those overdoing it.

It's obviously more intense and serotonergic than methylone.
 
Sounds about right to me. It's a lot more potent though and may be less forgiving to those overdoing it.

It's obviously more intense and serotonergic than methylone.

A lot more potent? What would you say is an equivalent dose of 100 mg MDMA?

Would 5-mapb be 3-desoxy-mdma?

What are the two different naming conventions called?

The oxygen is not just removed, it is replaced by a carbon, so I don't think we could call it 3-desoxy-mdma.
 
3-desoxy-MDA would be what is nowadaye commonly is referred to as 5-apbd

Absolutely not!

First, 5-APBD does not have a methyl group on the amine, and even if did, we would get 5-MAPDB which is the saturated version of 5-MAPB, so it has even 2 hydrogens more.

MDMA: C11H15NO2

5-MAPB: C12H15NO --> 1 C replaced with O
5-MAPDB: C12H17NO --> saturated version of above
5-APDB: C11H15NO --> same as above minus methyl

Don't be fooled by the double bond in 5-MAPB when you draw it. Of the 3 aforementioned, it really is the most similar to MDMA.

So what then would 5-mapb be using the alternate naming convention?

I don't know if there is a standard way of saying quickly "replace oxygen with carbon".
 
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This thread is really making me want to acquire some more of this....

Has anyone tried both 5-mapb and 6-mapb? How do they compare? Are they good combined?
 
This thread is really making me want to acquire some more of this....

Has anyone tried both 5-mapb and 6-mapb? How do they compare? Are they good combined?

Someone thinks they tried 6-MAPB here and were not impressed.
 
Sounds disappointing if it was real 6-mapb. Such a shame that there are so few reports on it.
I'll look some more, but if I don't find any good ones, I'll probably just stick to 5-mapb (and maybe a small sample of 6).
 
I am not very experienced with MDMA, I have only done it a couple times, and it has been years since I last tried it. I have done a fair bit of 4-mmc and methylone, and many other research chemicals and psychedelics. So that is what I have to compare it to.

Last week at around 8pm, a friend and I tried 110mg of 5-mapb dropped in a bomb and taken orally. The setting was at said friend's apartment. There were several other people there, but we were the only ones that had taken 5-mapb. While the setting was not bad, per se, I think it could have been better. We dropped at around 8pm.

At around the 30 minute mark I could tell I had taken a stimulate. Tension in my jaw started to develop and my palms became sweaty. Eventually nystagmus developed. It took about 2 hours to really start feeling it for me. My friend seemed to be effected by the drug much sooner, I would say he reached a peak around the 60-90 minute mark. After a few hours both our pupils became very dilated.

I am still trying to figure out the effects of this drug. One of the classic effects of serotonergic drugs for me is a shift in auditory perception, especially during the come-up. Sounds are greatly intensified. I distinctly remember the sound of fork hitting a plate, it was very crisp. The other people that were there were watching TV. I found the sound of the TV to be very annoying. One person had on basketball pants, the kind that go "swish swish" when you walk. I remember that sound distinctly as well. We did not really try to listen to music, though I feel as though it would have been a good choice.

Physically, this drug felt stimulating. Sweaty palms. Jaw tension. There was an underlying energy, but it was nowhere like that felt in the body by something such as methylone, 4-mmc, or 4-fa. You know, the kind of energy where you just want to get up and walk. I was perfectly content to sit where I was at.

Mentally, the drug is harder to explain. It was stimulating, and at the same time, relaxing. My perception of color in general was softer, and brighter. It was as if there was some kind of haze in the room. There were some tracers, but they were not very exaggerated. It felt very clearheaded in general. There were some closed eye visuals, not patterns, but a certain amount of brightness.

I like these kinds of drugs for their empathogenic effects, and that seemed to be lacking with this. There was no overwhelming desire to share my feelings like on 4-mmc and methylone. In fact, this felt much less "in your face" than those two drugs. It certainly felt strong, but I suppose it lacked the initial rush those other drugs provide. So while there was a certain depth to it that those other drugs lack, this also lacked the "push" to talk and empathize. There was no "magic" to the experience. That is a big negative for me, as there really is no point for me to take it, if not to talk with my friends. I spent most of the experience thinking about the drug, and trying to decide if I liked it or not.

On the plus side, the entire experience lasted longer than with 4-mmc or methylone. I would say it lasted 5-6 hours. There was residual stimulation afterwards, but I was able to fall asleep around 5:30 am. Also while the jaw tension was annoying, I tend to suck/chew on my cheeks when on stimulates, and it destroys my mouth. I did not do this (as bad) while on 5-mapb. There was no compulsive desire to redose.

I suppose I should add that I have done 6-apb, and I can make some comparisons between the two, but they are distinct. I did not really like 6-apb either. 6-apb felt like a mongy psychedelic trip, and there was no empathy or anything like that. Perhaps the APBs just are not my cup of tea.

In summary, I am still undecided about this drug, and will give it another chance. I think I will tweak the setting next time, and probably drop 150mg. Perhaps the effects will be more pronounced and up my alley. Sorry, this was not my best written report, when I do try it again I will make sure I write closer to the experience so I can get a more descriptive report.

My friend seemed to be more impressed with the drug than I was.

The only question I would ask, would any of you think the drug would be more pronounced at 150mg, versus the dose of 110mg I took?
 
You might want to give 75mg 5-apb and 75mg 6-apb a try, it's the best of the benzofurans/benzofuran combos I've tried. But it is a little trippy (mostly just visuals, no heavier mental stuff like thought loops and such), so if you don't like that, maybe it's not going to be the best one for your tastes. It does howerver have the best ratio of sedation and stimulation for me. If you like it, you can do 1 re dose after a few h, about 60mg of each. More is possible but this is a HR board so...
 
Well I like to trip, much more than I like to roll. But I will just stick to full blown psychedelics for that.

I will just wait a few more weeks and try 5-mapb again at 150mg, and in a more ideal/intimate setting. I find it interesting that some people describe this as stronger than methylone. Methylone, for me at least, had stronger empathogenic effects, but those effects are also much shorter lived and fiendish.

I have heard people use the term "no mans land" to describe the feeling of the APBs before. That is a good way to describe it. Not tripping, not rolling, kind of stuck in the middle. That is how I felt.
 
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