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Yo mzral I had no idea you were so local. i know a lot of dudes who were at that detox recently.
 
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Dealer was in a situation where he had to discard the bags he got for me. He called me tonight finally saying he had them for me. Only problem is, I'm going in for gallbladder surgery tomorrow, so I worry using 3 bags 12 hours before surgery will cause an overdose once anesthesia is applied. I wanna go grab them tonight as I don't know what shape I'll be in tomorrow. But the temptation will be great.
 
What's up guys? Hope you're all doin well...Johnny, Mizzy and Effect...Me, I'm just ridin that Sub train...playin a gig in a few hours here...
 
Nocturne83 said:
Dealer was in a situation where he had to discard the bags he got for me. He called me tonight finally saying he had them for me. Only problem is, I'm going in for gallbladder surgery tomorrow, so I worry using 3 bags 12 hours before surgery will cause an overdose once anesthesia is applied. I wanna go grab them tonight as I don't know what shape I'll be in tomorrow. But the temptation will be great.
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That's probably smart man. You'll enjoy it much more when the procedure is done anyways.

BlueHues said:
What's up guys? Hope you're all doin well...Johnny, Mizzy and Effect...Me, I'm just ridin that Sub train...playin a gig in a few hours here...
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I'm on subs myself. Had to take a break man. Took some time off from work and I had some extra cash so I went overboard. At first I was getting 33% more more a day than usual and by the end of week 2 it was 125% so my tolerance is fucked. Playing a gig?
 
^Yeah, just a small deal here in town....I've been on the subs awhile now...I wanna be off 'em but it's better than spending everything I have on dope...
 
Nocturne83 said:
Dealer was in a situation where he had to discard the bags he got for me. He called me tonight finally saying he had them for me. Only problem is, I'm going in for gallbladder surgery tomorrow, so I worry using 3 bags 12 hours before surgery will cause an overdose once anesthesia is applied. I wanna go grab them tonight as I don't know what shape I'll be in tomorrow. But the temptation will be great.
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I figured something like that happened if he was usually reliable...sometimes it happens; the dope biz is like that. Hope you got your stuff and held on before the surgery, you don't know what effects it'll have with the anesthesia...my sister is a nurse anesthetist and she's told me stories about people who did drugs before their surgery and they weren't too good...
 
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BlueHues said:
What's up guys? Hope you're all doin well...Johnny, Mizzy and Effect...Me, I'm just ridin that Sub train...playin a gig in a few hours here...
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Whats up my man? Glad to hear to you and make me feel good to know dudes care about how people are doing even if we just know each other through a forum. I've been outta detox for 13 days and have been maintaining with anywhere from .5 to 2mg of bupe a day.

I've also managed to use various amounts of benzos almost all of those days. Took my last 1mg of clonazepam about 2 hours ago and don't know if I can come up with the cash to get more. Sounds sad I know but I just started working monday and even though I get paid every thursday, my first check won't come till next week and I'm only working 20 to 30 hrs a week.

I've slipped up and used dope dope twice in the past 2 weeks (about .4-.5 total) cause my dumb ass didn't wanna pass up an opportunity to play middle man and get a free bag. I have about 4mgs of bupe left so this next week is gonna be tough.

I have a few things I wanna ask you, but don't wanna make this post any longer so I'll just post back here later.
 
^PMe if you want to man....it's tough to pass up free dope...It's tough to pass up doin it when you're driving to meet one of your old dealers in the same spot you always went yourself...Certain things really do trigger cravings
 
BlueHues said:
^PMe if you want to man....it's tough to pass up free dope...It's tough to pass up doin it when you're driving to meet one of your old dealers in the same spot you always went yourself...Certain things really do trigger cravings
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Very true. That's why it's so hard to stay sober if you're still living in the same environment you were when you were using. People, places, and things. Hah. Corny but true.
 
^Yeah, that what I was thinkin too...."People, places and things"...I get kind of annoyed with 12 step stuff, but the thing about getting triggered by "people, places and things" is absolutely true.....Some of them you can't avoid...but your old dealer isn't one of them! Unless he's a relative or a co-worker...
 
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^Yeah, that what I was thinkin too...."People, places and things"...I get kind of annoyed with 12 step stuff, but the thing about getting triggered by "people, places and things" is absolutely true.....Some of them you can't avoid...but your old dealer isn't one of them! Unless he's a relative or a co-worker...
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Yeah the whole 12 steps thing, (though not really my cup of tea) does have a few really good slogans that hold true. Like I said, corny as shit sometimes but... true nonetheless. Ha.
 
Yeah I did NA/AA for the longest time and was sober for about 5 years. Then, when I went back to Umass Amherst to finish my bachelor's after a 15 year school break, I relapsed, and relapsed hard. Then I detoxed near Amherst MA. After that I moved to Manchester NH to stay in a sober house, to be close to Boston, and to get back into NA/AA. But when I got to Manch, I realized it wasn't AA/NA that kept me sober before, it was having a life I wanted that helped the most. So when I moved to Lowell, I started dabbling again. Except this time, I'm just chipping. It doesn't call to me like it used to. It used to be I had to have it as soon as the day started. Or if I had money, I had to have it as soon as the g I just blew through was gone. Nowadays, I'll use maybe once a week, sometimes 2x. And then I'll lay low for a few weeks before I get any again.

I don't like the heroin hangover anymore (not the sickness, no one likes that) - the tiredness, the teeth grinding, the numb body, I also don't like the fucking game that goes along with copping the shit. But I think the big thing that keeps me from using more often is that I really dig my life and my job right now. I get preoccupied with living life so I keep getting sucked into my life rather than sucked in by dope.

I never thought I could chip. I thought it would be impossible. But ironically enough, it's what I've been doing for about the past year. Its like when you want something, but you want it so much it becomes impossible to obtaina. However, when youre not paying attention, thats when you get it. Knowhatimsayin??

Hopefully that made sense.
 
k.dre said:
Yeah I did NA/AA for the longest time and was sober for about 5 years. Then, when I went back to Umass Amherst to finish my bachelor's after a 15 year school break, I relapsed, and relapsed hard. Then I detoxed near Amherst MA. After that I moved to Manchester NH to stay in a sober house, to be close to Boston, and to get back into NA/AA. But when I got to Manch, I realized it wasn't AA/NA that kept me sober before, it was having a life I wanted that helped the most. So when I moved to Lowell, I started dabbling again. Except this time, I'm just chipping. It doesn't call to me like it used to. It used to be I had to have it as soon as the day started. Or if I had money, I had to have it as soon as the g I just blew through was gone. Nowadays, I'll use maybe once a week, sometimes 2x. And then I'll lay low for a few weeks before I get any again.

I don't like the heroin hangover anymore (not the sickness, no one likes that) - the tiredness, the teeth grinding, the numb body, I also don't like the fucking game that goes along with copping the shit. But I think the big thing that keeps me from using more often is that I really dig my life and my job right now. I get preoccupied with living life so I keep getting sucked into my life rather than sucked in by dope.

I never thought I could chip. I thought it would be impossible. But ironically enough, it's what I've been doing for about the past year. Its like when you want something, but you want it so much it becomes impossible to obtaina. However, when youre not paying attention, thats when you get it. Knowhatimsayin??

Hopefully that made sense.
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You're still playing a very dangerous game. I know a lot of people, myself included, who came out of serious addictions and were able to chip for a little while, thinking something had changed, only to end up completely fucked again. I don't know anybody whose ever been able to chip, especially someone who was once past addicted, for any period of real time. A year isn't that long in the grand scheme of a using career. If you keep at it, the chances of you slipping up and ending up even worse off then you were, are very high.
 
Mzral said:
It's killer not getting dopesick anymore and I've had no problem chipping at all. I've even been offered free dope and have had to turn it down because I used a day or so previously. Not even trying to catch a habit again. I know peoples feelings on chipping and how it leads back to addiction but it's been working for me and having suffered to get to this point I feel I have way more discipline not to use on a regular basis because I will undoubtedly get sick again. We'll see how life goes...
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props on that ..

Johnny blue said:
That's why I asked man. I just always figured it would take longer to get all the way back to square one. To where you want the drug but, don't physically need something. I think that's a fantasy that a lot of us have. How long were you hooked if you don't mind me asking? Did you feel at all sick after you first used again?

Anyways be careful man. I hope this works for you.
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that is what i strive for..ive never really thought about quitting for good. whenive taken breaks it is generally probation and money or tolerance as the reasons not me wanting to quit for good. i figured its taken me years to get to this point that it could take months or years for all i know to ghet back to being normal..

Effect said:
Yo mzral I had no idea you were so local. i know a lot of dudes who were at that detox recently.
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this is why i dont talk about BL with my friends..this shit is like fight club, you shouldnt talk about it outside of BL
Nocturne83 said:
Dealer was in a situation where he had to discard the bags he got for me. He called me tonight finally saying he had them for me. Only problem is, I'm going in for gallbladder surgery tomorrow, so I worry using 3 bags 12 hours before surgery will cause an overdose once anesthesia is applied. I wanna go grab them tonight as I don't know what shape I'll be in tomorrow. But the temptation will be great.
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i know you prolly already had surgery but i really hope you chose not to do the dope before you went in for anesthesia and surgery..your not even supposed to eat or drink water..dope or any opiate could possbnily cause you to have an overdose
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Very true. That's why it's so hard to stay sober if you're still living in the same environment you were when you were using. People, places, and things. Hah. Corny but true.
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ive thought about this cause my family did just move to atlanta cause my mom transfered at work and well i have nothing out there and thats why i chose to move in with my uncle and not go with them. i havent really even givin it much of a thought except for "how long would 5grams of raw last me?" " would i have enough to last me until i found a connect down there" or "that wouyld be an opprotunity to start fresh and get clean and not know anyone and just get a job and get back to life instead of just livin as a dope addict.i mean how often do you get a chance to start over 100%, i dont have a job or a girlfriend and so nothing is really keeping me here except for my little brother and just my friends and my life even though i havent really lived it for 2 years."

k.dre said:
Yeah I did NA/AA for the longest time and was sober for about 5 years. Then, when I went back to Umass Amherst to finish my bachelor's after a 15 year school break, I relapsed, and relapsed hard. Then I detoxed near Amherst MA. After that I moved to Manchester NH to stay in a sober house, to be close to Boston, and to get back into NA/AA. But when I got to Manch, I realized it wasn't AA/NA that kept me sober before, it was having a life I wanted that helped the most. So when I moved to Lowell, I started dabbling again. Except this time, I'm just chipping. It doesn't call to me like it used to. It used to be I had to have it as soon as the day started. Or if I had money, I had to have it as soon as the g I just blew through was gone. Nowadays, I'll use maybe once a week, sometimes 2x. And then I'll lay low for a few weeks before I get any again.

I don't like the heroin hangover anymore (not the sickness, no one likes that) - the tiredness, the teeth grinding, the numb body, I also don't like the fucking game that goes along with copping the shit. But I think the big thing that keeps me from using more often is that I really dig my life and my job right now. I get preoccupied with living life so I keep getting sucked into my life rather than sucked in by dope.

I never thought I could chip. I thought it would be impossible. But ironically enough, it's what I've been doing for about the past year. Its like when you want something, but you want it so much it becomes impossible to obtaina. However, when youre not paying attention, thats when you get it. Knowhatimsayin??

Hopefully that made sense.
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this is where i really want to be, back to chippin once maybe twice a week. but just buying like a 1/4gram and using it all in one day and then not having an sickness or WD or anything when i wake up 2 days later or anytime after that. just get high on friday night and go about the rest of the week just smokin some weed and then come next weekend the same thing. by getting back to work i will have all that freetime used up and with no freetime and jsut work i would love to just come home, eat dinner and smoke a bong or 2, go to bed and wake up and do it again.
 
Well, I finally got those two bags my guy lost a few weeks ago. So today, I came home with six bags for the price of four. :) The surgery went alright, but I'm still pretty tender one week later. Last night I was up with back spasms. Not sure what that was all about, but at least if it happens again, I'll be able to deal with it. ;)
Today they gave me these new stamps I'd never tried before. Burned like hell when I snorted them, and they tasted weird, but my god, I got so fucked up after just a few. If I get that stamp again, I'll wait till I get home before snorting them. I take way too many risks when it comes to this shit.
Wonder what the hell these new bags were cut with. I know I can't state what kind they are in this thread, which is too bad as I'm mad curious if anyone here has had them. Ah well, I suppose I can still find a way to research them. Wonder if they're cut with fentanyl like I've heard about some bags being cut with. Thing is, isn't fentanyl eve stronger than dope? What do people here know about stuff people cut heroin with? Especially out in western MA where I'm from?
 
I think people are too quick to say that their dope is cut with fent. Of course people should always be careful and do a test so they know potency but, fent is not a very common cut in the scope of things.

The dope I've been getting on the east side of the state has a nice burn to it too. I'm not sure what the cut is and I don't get stamps out here but, usually I find that the stuff that burns a bit when I snort it is usually good shit. Today I grabbed a small bag, less than half of what I've been getting because I knew my dude just copped this good shit yesterday. I just finished the bag and I'm plenty high, even itchy. In all honesty I think this is the best I've had so far this summer so be careful guys. It's still light brown but, a touch darker than usual with a vinegar smell and a pleasant burn.
 
^ Johnny wouldn't you want to stock up on the good shit? Or do you have the same self control that I do meaning the more dope you have the more dope you will do.
 
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