Gabapentinoids The Lyrica (Pregabalin) Mega Thread v 2.0

[plumbus-nine]

You were taking 18 grams of pregabalin a day, this is not a typo right? Fuck, I got a grand mal seizure from ~1.8 grams. Always interesting how individually different biochemistry is. And glad you made it through the taper.

Pregabs build tolerance so quick that the amount you take just to feel a buzz becomes crazy .

Oh yeah, pregab's tolerance curve is insane. Worse than any other drug. Back in the day I got sort of a drunkenness from my first 300mg's. Exactly once. Later I'd jump to 900mg and got a dissociative, stimulant kind of effect. Was never able to reproduce these effects even after long periods of abstinence. At last even 900mg did have exactly zero effects so I jumped to 1.8, paid the price and quit the substance. It still pops to my mind every now and then given that it's OTC in the country here but I don't buy more because it's just not sustainable.

 

[yubacity]

You were taking 28 grams of pregabalin a day, this is not a typo right? Fuck, I got a grand mal seizure from ~1.8 grams. Always interesting how individually different biochemistry is. And glad you made it through the taper.

At my height i had brought 2000 300 mg indian signature capsules for 50p each i would wake up and there would be 15 in a strip i take them and 3 more 15 strips of 300 mgs 60 in total. But 31 years of drug abuse that was the closest to death i had come my kidneys were fucked mind gone could feel water on lungs and my belly extended like i was pregnant

 

[yubacity]

You were taking 18 grams of pregabalin a day, this is not a typo right? Fuck, I got a grand mal seizure from ~1.8 grams. Always interesting how individually different biochemistry is. And glad you made it through the taper.


Oh yeah, pregab's tolerance curve is insane. Worse than any other drug. Back in the day I got sort of a drunkenness from my first 300mg's. Exactly once. Later I'd jump to 900mg and got a dissociative, stimulant kind of effect. Was never able to reproduce these effects even after long periods of abstinence. At last even 900mg did have exactly zero effects so I jumped to 1.8, paid the price and quit the substance. It still pops to my mind every now and then given that it's OTC in the country here but I don't buy more because it's just not sustainable.

I remember my first time taking them 150 mg had me buzzing and 300 mg took all the heroin wd away

 

[yubacity]

You were taking 18 grams of pregabalin a day, this is not a typo right? Fuck, I got a grand mal seizure from ~1.8 grams. Always interesting how individually different biochemistry is. And glad you made it through the taper.


Oh yeah, pregab's tolerance curve is insane. Worse than any other drug. Back in the day I got sort of a drunkenness from my first 300mg's. Exactly once. Later I'd jump to 900mg and got a dissociative, stimulant kind of effect. Was never able to reproduce these effects even after long periods of abstinence. At last even 900mg did have exactly zero effects so I jumped to 1.8, paid the price and quit the substance. It still pops to my mind every now and then given that it's OTC in the country here but I don't buy more because it's just not sustainable.

I still flirt in and out of addiction on them but never to that amount I'm prescribed 600 mg a day now when i fucked my kidneys on 60 300 mg a day the doctor could not believe i could take so many he had all other tests done heart everything . The wd when you jump from big amounts is just hell pure mental torture all the heroin wds i never considered suicide but high amount pregab wd has got me to that point

 

[plumbus-nine]

I remember my first time taking them 150 mg had me buzzing and 300 mg took all the heroin wd away

Yeah, it's a good aid for opioid withdrawal. Interestingly this effect appears to be there even with tolerance, I was prescribed 600mg/d morphine and 600mg/d pregabalin for months, the pregab had no more noticeable effects for a long time but I could still do a rapid taper of morphine down to around 90mg/d without suffering which I attribute to the pregabalin. It's a weird substance. But I got it prescribed for social and general anxiety and it definitely stopped working for that. The effects I got from my first 900mg's, many years ago, are still under my top 3 drug experiences but could never been reproduced. I just kept taking it because I was afraid of the withdrawal which should prove wrong in the end.

Major side effect I encountered was a fucked up short term memory, I remember watching the newest Spider Man in cinema and couldn't follow the plot because I kept forgetting what just happened. This was on 1.2g if I'm right but even 600mg/d felt kind of stupidity inducing.

Did you get stimulant and/or detached effects from these high dosages?

But I think you're lucky to having survived this high dose habit. My DOC I was primarily abusing were dissociatives (deschloroketamine) and at some point of ridiculously high dosing I began to encounter alarming physical effects, like water retention in the legs, pain in the testicles, eventually stuttering and slightly yellow-ish skin color, I think it could have killed me but I didn't think a second about quitting.

 

[yubacity]

Yeah, it's a good aid for opioid withdrawal. Interestingly this effect appears to be there even with tolerance, I was prescribed 600mg/d morphine and 600mg/d pregabalin for months, the pregab had no more noticeable effects for a long time but I could still do a rapid taper of morphine down to around 90mg/d without suffering which I attribute to the pregabalin. It's a weird substance. But I got it prescribed for social and general anxiety and it definitely stopped working for that. The effects I got from my first 900mg's, many years ago, are still under my top 3 drug experiences but could never been reproduced. I just kept taking it because I was afraid of the withdrawal which should prove wrong in the end.

Major side effect I encountered was a fucked up short term memory, I remember watching the newest Spider Man in cinema and couldn't follow the plot because I kept forgetting what just happened. This was on 1.2g if I'm right but even 600mg/d felt kind of stupidity inducing.

Did you get stimulant and/or detached effects from these high dosages?

But I think you're lucky to having survived this high dose habit. My DOC I was primarily abusing were dissociatives (deschloroketamine) and at some point of ridiculously high dosing I began to encounter alarming physical effects, like water retention in the legs, pain in the testicles, eventually stuttering and slightly yellow-ish skin color, I think it could have killed me but I didn't think a second about quitting.

For opium wd it is a miricle pill put it this way day 3 of heroin wd i was on my lorry high on pregabalin rocking to led zeppelin in euphoric mood . The reason i flirt with addiction on them still is because i love the buzzz massive euphoria like a meth or coke high without the edginess on them

Memory is so bad on pregabalin when i was on 60 300 mg i could not recite band members from led zepp or pearl jam and i love rock for a day i could not remember jimmy pages name .

On those crazy doses i would say anything that i thought of crazy talking shit i felt a really great detached from the world feeling . I feel ashamed now but i once got out of my lorry after a load of 40 ton and thinking how fucked am i . And i would be super horny on them was lucky never to have an accident my joints hurt water on lungs retained water in stomach and my piss would be so foamy . In the mornings i could hear water squishing around my body and my wife got so worried she said when i was snoring it sounded like a death rattle . I thought i would have to spend my life get kidney dialysis my kidney function was low high levels of other chemicals creatine something like that and piss that was reddish color

 

[yubacity]

I have been taking large doses of Pregabalin for a couple of weeks, about 2500mgs or a bit higher, I have about 25000mgs left and a balance owed to me on a prescription so I am at about 37000mgs all together, any advice,

How many have you got left if you only been on them a couple of weeks do a big cut then jump at the lowest you can before you jump don't leave it to long or un til your out it is a bad mental wd.

 

[plumbus-nine]

I personally fall for detached drug experiences, I once worded my natural state as being too 'attached' with permanent worries and anxieties, not the OCD variant where one would check 10 times whether the gas was off but intrusive throughts of similar intensity about all possible shit and specially occasions in my life where I failed to do my best and being emotionally overly sensitive in general. As drugs are notorious for impairing judgement, this became a downward spiral of more drug use leading to more mistakes which I would numb with more drugs. But even when happy I love feeling detached, and dissociatives give that to me. Pregabalin shares some activity with dissociatives, both being Ca channel inhibitors but I read conflicting stuff about that, there's one thread about how pregab was a disso and another one that it wasn't one. Also nobody knows why it has such an unbelievable tolerance profile (at least not to my knowledge). I gave up about pregabalin when I had that seizure, had difficulties walking even just from my bed to the toilet after that for 2-3 days, it's definitely nothing I want to experience ever again. Up to that incident I thought not to get seizures easily because I snorted my way through e.g. at least 10-15 150mg bupropion pills which are known for seizure risk and I got none. In retrospection I was just lucky I guess. I'd rather trade that luck for other stuff in my live though but that's like reversing time, makes good movie plots but impossible in reality.

Would absolutely love though if somebody came up with an analog substance which had a more favorable tolerance curve. This would be a success on the legal highs market for sure.

 

[PtahTek]

Pregabs build tolerance so quick that the amount you take just to feel a buzz becomes crazy .

Yeah this is what I understand.
Found it true for gabapentin and when switched to pregabalin I basically stopped so never built a tolerance in like 2-3 years now...? I still love phenibut but hardly take that anymore. Never built a tolerance.
Ya know I am getting tired of taking shit. I am. Its getting old, dangerous and mf may end up in da big house. F That. lol
Peace gotta bounce gettin tl;dr for me

 

[yubacity]

Yeah this is what I understand.
Found it true for gabapentin and when switched to pregabalin I basically stopped so never built a tolerance in like 2-3 years now...? I still love phenibut but hardly take that anymore. Never built a tolerance.
Ya know I am getting tired of taking shit. I am. Its getting old, dangerous and mf may end up in da big house. F That. lol
Peace gotta bounce gettin tl;dr for me

I feel what you mean my brother 31 years of fucking addictions don't let you be me otherwise you find yourself with your youth wasted and old age approaching without knowing how to be an adult without drugs as a crutch

 

[nznity]

At my height i had brought 2000 300 mg indian signature capsules for 50p each i would wake up and there would be 15 in a strip i take them and 3 more 15 strips of 300 mgs 60 in total. But 31 years of drug abuse that was the closest to death i had come my kidneys were fucked mind gone could feel water on lungs and my belly extended like i was pregnant

That would last me years to be honest. I doubt the potency of those pills are good tho, must be like 30-50% of real pfizer lyricas though. I'm just guessing btway, it has happened to me before with Indian clonazepam. The potency of those pills were just plain shite lols.

 

[yubacity]

That would last me years to be honest. I doubt the potency of those pills are good tho, must be like 30-50% of real pfizer lyricas though. I'm just guessing btway, it has happened to me before with Indian clonazepam. The potency of those pills were just plain shite lols.

How you doing my brother how is your health. These signatures indian pregabs were the real deal i tried them before buying that many in total i must have brought 3 boxes of them containing 2000 each parcel . Even the lyrics i got off my pal in UK i was taking that many until i caught up to his 2 year supply before i found out he gets them and don't take them

 

[nznity]

How you doing my brother how is your health. These signatures indian pregabs were the real deal i tried them before buying that many in total i must have brought 3 boxes of them containing 2000 each parcel .

Not so good tbh, fighting for my life but still I'm getting by. Thanks for asking.
Damn, well yeah good point if you're buying 1k of pills the least thing u can do is test em first. The bad thing about gabaergics is the tolerance, it skyrockets and fades away so fast. After the 3rd day you're doing 5x as much as the 1st day to catch just a mild buzz, oh and the wds are super nasty. They resemble opiate wds alot but don't last as long, crazy cool experience for the books tho. 300g of pregabalin cheers man

 

[yubacity]

Not so good tbh, fighting for my life but still I'm getting by. Thanks for asking.
Damn, well yeah good point if you're buying 1k of pills the least thing u can do is test em first. The bad thing about gabaergics is the tolerance, it skyrockets and fades away so fast. After the 3rd day you're doing 5x as much as the 1st day to catch just a mild buzz, oh and the wds are super nasty. They resemble opiate wds alot but don't last as long, crazy cool experience for the books tho. 300g of pregabalin cheers man

Good to hear you keeping upbeat and taking the best you can how is the pain i brought over 6000 of the 300 mg . Tolerance like no drug i have known

 

[yubacity]

Not so good tbh, fighting for my life but still I'm getting by. Thanks for asking.
Damn, well yeah good point if you're buying 1k of pills the least thing u can do is test em first. The bad thing about gabaergics is the tolerance, it skyrockets and fades away so fast. After the 3rd day you're doing 5x as much as the 1st day to catch just a mild buzz, oh and the wds are super nasty. They resemble opiate wds alot but don't last as long, crazy cool experience for the books tho. 300g of pregabalin cheers man

The only better thing about the pregab wds are that for me after 7 days of the worse wds i have ever had it just like a switch being flipped its over . First pregab wd i ever had was after taking them for months at high doses i needed relief . I thought i drive to Punjabi butcher to go get ground poppy pods in such torture and just so much anxiety i was crying . I stepped out of my car brought a small box of pods and some water to do a water wash down with as i got out of the shop it was like a miracle the worse of the wd was over and within hours i was back to normal no paws little bit of insomnia but that was it.

Also unlike pregabs for opium wd poium does nothing for pregab wd might take some anxiety away but i found diazepam not big doses 30 mg a day when tapered of pregabs does bring relief . Pregab wds for me make me suicidal the mental torture and anxiety are so bad every opium wd i have had i at least could drag myself out of bed twice a day to shower because showers would be the only time i could get warm but during one pregab wd i could not get out of bed it felt like i was not part of my body i was thirsty as fuck but could not even sit up from bed to drink anything . But i just love the buzz and that's why i buy so many along as my prescription for 600 mg a day i know I'm going to regret it but i think that's months into the future lets worry when the time comes to panic

 

[nznity]

The only better thing about the pregab wds are that for me after 7 days of the worse wds i have ever had it just like a switch being flipped its over . First pregab wd i ever had was after taking them for months at high doses i needed relief . I thought i drive to Punjabi butcher to go get ground poppy pods in such torture and just so much anxiety i was crying . I stepped out of my car brought a small box of pods and some water to do a water wash down with as i got out of the shop it was like a miracle the worse of the wd was over and within hours i was back to normal no paws little bit of insomnia but that was it.

Also unlike pregabs for opium wd poium does nothing for pregab wd might take some anxiety away but i found diazepam not big doses 30 mg a day when tapered of pregabs does bring relief . Pregab wds for me make me suicidal the mental torture and anxiety are so bad every opium wd i have had i at least could drag myself out of bed twice a day to shower because showers would be the only time i could get warm but during one pregab wd i could not get out of bed it felt like i was not part of my body i was thirsty as fuck but could not even sit up from bed to drink anything . But i just love the buzz and that's why i buy so many along as my prescription for 600 mg a day i know I'm going to regret it but i think that's months into the future lets worry when the time comes to panic

Ikr, pregab works wonders for opi wd but not the otherway round. The only thing that I've noticed that works for gabapentinoid wds is Ethanol, @Xorkoth confirmed this and gave me the reason on a previous post and gave me the explanation. It had something to do with calcium voltage channels or something like that and alcohol has the same effect.
Last time I quit gabapentin, I drank a few beers for a couple days to take the edge off and also tried some DXM(although I'm not sure if this helped at all). After 3 days of drinking, most of the nastier symptoms like the horrible headaches were gone. So I was able to tough it out the remaining days ti complete the week of gaba wds with not much discomfort( funny how gaba wds take EXACTLY a week and then BAM its gone haha). Cheers buddy. xx, stay safe

 

[yubacity]

Ikr, pregab works wonders for opi wd but not the otherway round. The only thing that I've noticed that works for gabapentinoid wds is Ethanol, @Xorkoth confirmed this and gave me the reason on a previous post and gave me the explanation. It had something to do with calcium voltage channels or something like that and alcohol has the same effect.
Last time I quit gabapentin, I drank a few beers for a couple days to take the edge off and also tried some DXM(although I'm not sure if this helped at all). After 3 days of drinking, most of the nastier symptoms like the horrible headaches were gone. So I was able to tough it out the remaining days ti complete the week of gaba wds with not much discomfort( funny how gaba wds take EXACTLY a week and then BAM its gone haha). Cheers buddy. xx, stay safe

Look after yourself my brother health before everything. Its the weirdest thing first time i was expecting paws like with opium wd but no once its gone its over but those 7 days from high dosage jumping to people who not been through it its like its only a week but that week is so draining mentally . I much rather come of heroin then pregabs but pods or raw opium that another level of month long wds and months and months of paws

 

[Ms076]

i think my life is fucked now. cant stop... still on that shit. im thinking of ending it so often bc i cant wd.. i just cant

 

[PtahTek]

Personally I think this is doable.
If benzos are used for a few days and then pregab a few days there is no dependence or severe tolerance building.
They are different classes of drugs and affect different brain receptors in different ways. If both can be used to treat whatever it is being treated then this may well work out in a fortunate way.
Just my opinion being Rx-ed pregab and self medicate with benzo.

 

[Ms076]

whats rx-ed ? sry im from germany im not too good in english. what benzo you take and how much/long?
nice weekend everbody.