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Film The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
- Thread starter LapDawg
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Who's cooler?
The people who like it or the people who don't? We may never know. I'm feeling the winner will be whoever eats the most cookies.
I liked schizo Gollum. The use of Gimli as comic relief kind of made me cringe at times. Easily the most epic film in scope of the year, however.
The people who like it or the people who don't? We may never know. I'm feeling the winner will be whoever eats the most cookies.
I liked schizo Gollum. The use of Gimli as comic relief kind of made me cringe at times. Easily the most epic film in scope of the year, however.
Yesterday
Bluelighter
I just got back from seeing TTT for the second time and although I did love the film I was a little disappointed with it.
In Fellowship I think PJ did an admirable job making the difficult decisions between what needed to be included and what could be left out. I think he lost some of that focus in this film. Was it me or was tons of the dialouge in this movie reworked? It totally lost the feel of the book for me. Also the Gollum character, while technologically amazing, was a perfect illustration of why computer generated characters do not really fit in serious films, albeit a fantasy or not. Also I take some issue with the creation of characters but I would give PJ that license.
I thought the battle scenes were amazing, reagrdless of their accuracy. Also, I would like to "Do" about 75% of that cast. When comparing TTT to FoR I would say that Fellowship was the better film (I had no problem with the ending even if it wasn't true to the book and too much of a cliffhanger) whereas TTT stands on its own better (as in the 90% of our society who has not read the books can actually "get it"). To each their own.
PS I wanted more fucking Ents!!! What about the Ent-song and the Entmaidens and Entlings. Dammit.
In Fellowship I think PJ did an admirable job making the difficult decisions between what needed to be included and what could be left out. I think he lost some of that focus in this film. Was it me or was tons of the dialouge in this movie reworked? It totally lost the feel of the book for me. Also the Gollum character, while technologically amazing, was a perfect illustration of why computer generated characters do not really fit in serious films, albeit a fantasy or not. Also I take some issue with the creation of characters but I would give PJ that license.
I thought the battle scenes were amazing, reagrdless of their accuracy. Also, I would like to "Do" about 75% of that cast. When comparing TTT to FoR I would say that Fellowship was the better film (I had no problem with the ending even if it wasn't true to the book and too much of a cliffhanger) whereas TTT stands on its own better (as in the 90% of our society who has not read the books can actually "get it"). To each their own.
PS I wanted more fucking Ents!!! What about the Ent-song and the Entmaidens and Entlings. Dammit.
*Just enough of a spoiler that someone who hasn't read the books may learn a wee bit too much about the next movie...*
^^^ He may not be done with the Ents. Gandalf and all the others haven't gone to pick up Pippin and Took and face down Saruman yet. But I'm with you. The Ents are definitely one of my favorite Middle-Earth clan.
^^^ He may not be done with the Ents. Gandalf and all the others haven't gone to pick up Pippin and Took and face down Saruman yet. But I'm with you. The Ents are definitely one of my favorite Middle-Earth clan.
The Neoracle
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Yesterday
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^^^
Doesn't work.
Nothings worse then a failed geek.
Ahem, also, I prefer "bookworm"
Doesn't work.
Nothings worse then a failed geek.
Ahem, also, I prefer "bookworm"
as for another who has not read the books, i have absolutely LOVED the movies. I'm just kinda erked that i have to wait so long for the last one. 
I do have to admit, although, that they are a little hard to follow, there is a lot going on, and i can't remember most of the character's names.
people need to realize that movies AREN'T made to identically mirror books, they are MOVIES made to be asthetically pleasing to the eye, to be entertaining- AND to fit short time restrictions. There is absolutely NO way they could fit all the info into these restrictions- poeple who are that die hard and expect it to be exact should just not waste thier time, and save themselves a let down by just not seeing the movie ....
I do have to admit, although, that they are a little hard to follow, there is a lot going on, and i can't remember most of the character's names.people need to realize that movies AREN'T made to identically mirror books, they are MOVIES made to be asthetically pleasing to the eye, to be entertaining- AND to fit short time restrictions. There is absolutely NO way they could fit all the info into these restrictions- poeple who are that die hard and expect it to be exact should just not waste thier time, and save themselves a let down by just not seeing the movie ....
Tech Kinetics
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I just saw TTT last night on an amazing IMAX screen. Awesome movie, I personally think it was wayyyy better than then FOTR. But I some questions about the movie that I may have missed.
1. Who is Stryder?? What does he look like and what's his race??
2. When Frodo was looking into the water in the swampland area, what were those ghostly figures in the water?? And what did they represent??
3. The Ents were upset because some of their friends were chopped down and used for a fire........ Was this done earlier in the movie by the orcs when they were camping out??
4. Frodo and Frodo's chubby sidekick were captured by this band of warriors, because the guy's brother died and he thought that Frodo did it...........But what I don't understand was, What was he going to do with Frodo?? And who was he being attacked by near the end of the movie??
1. Who is Stryder?? What does he look like and what's his race??
2. When Frodo was looking into the water in the swampland area, what were those ghostly figures in the water?? And what did they represent??
3. The Ents were upset because some of their friends were chopped down and used for a fire........ Was this done earlier in the movie by the orcs when they were camping out??
4. Frodo and Frodo's chubby sidekick were captured by this band of warriors, because the guy's brother died and he thought that Frodo did it...........But what I don't understand was, What was he going to do with Frodo?? And who was he being attacked by near the end of the movie??
1. Who is Stryder?? What does he look like and what's his race??
Stryder is Aragorn. He looks like Aragorn. He's human.
2. When Frodo was looking into the water in the swampland area, what were those ghostly figures in the water?? And what did they represent??
Those were the drowned men and orcs who fought on those swamplands and lost their way in times before.
3. The Ents were upset because some of their friends were chopped down and used for a fire........ Was this done earlier in the movie by the orcs when they were camping out??
The orcs and Saruman chopped them all down in FotR to power their forges below Orthanc.
4. Frodo and Frodo's chubby sidekick were captured by this band of warriors, because the guy's brother died and he thought that Frodo did it...........But what I don't understand was, What was he going to do with Frodo?? And who was he being attacked by near the end of the movie??
That was Faramir, brother to Boromir. When he found out he had captured the Ringbearer, he was originally going to (in the movie, not the book) take him and the ring back to help defeat Sauron's forces. They were being attacked by the orc and men forces who were fighting for Sauron and Saruman.
[ 08 January 2003: Message edited by: Baron ]
Stryder is Aragorn. He looks like Aragorn. He's human.
2. When Frodo was looking into the water in the swampland area, what were those ghostly figures in the water?? And what did they represent??
Those were the drowned men and orcs who fought on those swamplands and lost their way in times before.
3. The Ents were upset because some of their friends were chopped down and used for a fire........ Was this done earlier in the movie by the orcs when they were camping out??
The orcs and Saruman chopped them all down in FotR to power their forges below Orthanc.
4. Frodo and Frodo's chubby sidekick were captured by this band of warriors, because the guy's brother died and he thought that Frodo did it...........But what I don't understand was, What was he going to do with Frodo?? And who was he being attacked by near the end of the movie??
That was Faramir, brother to Boromir. When he found out he had captured the Ringbearer, he was originally going to (in the movie, not the book) take him and the ring back to help defeat Sauron's forces. They were being attacked by the orc and men forces who were fighting for Sauron and Saruman.
[ 08 January 2003: Message edited by: Baron ]
Question for those who are familiar with the books (I read them in high school and can't remember): Does Frodo die in the books?
Someone mentioned to me that Frodo's friend (Sam I think) is the one who takes care of the ring after he dies. Considering that Frodo is the central character in the movies, this inconsistency seems rather glaring if it's true. Nonetheless, I personally can't say that I didn't thoroughly enjoy the movies.
Someone mentioned to me that Frodo's friend (Sam I think) is the one who takes care of the ring after he dies. Considering that Frodo is the central character in the movies, this inconsistency seems rather glaring if it's true. Nonetheless, I personally can't say that I didn't thoroughly enjoy the movies.
TopRocka
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Trifecta, why don't you pose that question in the LOTR: ROTK - discussion thread. That way those of us who don't want to know the answer to your question can remain in the dark.
Teka
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This movie was just as good as the first i actley think it was better than the first probley beacuse there was more action in it and some crazy ass looking creatures like the trees that would take all day to talk about one thing. I havent read the second book but i believe it was true to the books because the first was true to the book as well.
michael
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plazma
Bluelighter
I have to say, aside from the bitchyness, taking acid with a bunch of other mates and going off to see The Two Towers was the best decision I've ever made in my life.
This movie was an absolutely stunning interpretation of the novel, and though it ended on a bit of a cliffhanger (not including ye olde spider scene), it was absolute gold.
I found that it conveyed Gollum/Smeagol's schizophrenic nature so accurately, that I was almost in tears, watching the way he came back to humanity, only to be wrenched away.
Its been a while since I read the books. So I didn't quite understand whether Arwen actually DID go with the other elves?
But it was quite a heartbreaker of a movie, and though there were a few dodgy bits, like the 'skateboard' thing, it was an overall triumph.
-plaz out-
This movie was an absolutely stunning interpretation of the novel, and though it ended on a bit of a cliffhanger (not including ye olde spider scene), it was absolute gold.
I found that it conveyed Gollum/Smeagol's schizophrenic nature so accurately, that I was almost in tears, watching the way he came back to humanity, only to be wrenched away.
Its been a while since I read the books. So I didn't quite understand whether Arwen actually DID go with the other elves?
But it was quite a heartbreaker of a movie, and though there were a few dodgy bits, like the 'skateboard' thing, it was an overall triumph.
-plaz out-