I'm a full time University student with a well paying part time job, who doesn't need student loans. I still have money left over to go out for nice dinners with friends, and simply to function. The only reason this drug ruins people's lives at current state is that it is so bloody expensive to keep up with.
One of my friends was able to maintain a job and a 4.0 college GPA for over a year. At some point, it didn't work anymore. It had nothing to do with her not being able to afford heroin. The heroin simply took over.
I assure you that while you may be able to keep it all up now, at some point you're not going to be able to use *almost* daily. If you continue using, you will end up having to shoot up *every* day, several times a day. Your life starts going downhill because you have to devote so much time to getting high.
I do actually know this one older couple where both had nice jobs and lived in a nice house and shot up daily for years. But at some point last year they both wanted to quit. They were absolutlely miserable. They both looked like complete shit. I have no idea what happened to them, but I know they had been trying to quit and were unsuccessful many times.
If you really think you can continue to use heroin for several years and be happy and successful, you are severely deluded. If you are thinking "yes, I know it will be hard, but I'll be able to quit later on", you are severely deluded.
Hell, if I didn't get my H supply at a decent price, I know I'd simply drop it
If you're physically addicted right now, you are severely deluded.
If you think you're going to keep getting heroin at a good price and use it daily and not get physically addicted, you are severely deluded.
Word of advice - if you're not getting it much cheaper than street price DON'T DO IT
Words of advice - Reguardless of what you're getting your heroin for, if you become physically addicted, at some point your life will become a complete and absolute living hell.
but those who do die from injecting too much really do need the institutional education legalization would bring.
The thing is that when you're a drug addict, especially a drug addict who's severely addicted to heroin, knowledge comes second to getting high. Infact, everything becomes second to heroin after a while.
I've never ODed myself, but I'm sure if I had continued using that I would have. It's not that I didn't know better. But I could no longer control myself. I could be thinking one thing, but my rational and logical thoughts had almost no bearing over my actions. I was often in conflict with myself. And I was at a point where I never felt high enough and I would keep shooting up and then fall asleep for several hours, wake up, shoot up and fall asleep again. I did this for days at a time on a few occassions. I knew better, but I couldn't help myself at the time.
I've watched a lot of friends go through the same thing. One of the most pathetic things I've ever seen was a really intelligent friend of mine stab himself with the same needle over 20 times in the same area just trying to hit his scarred up vein. He had to go clean, too. Because if he hadn't I'm sure he'd be dead by now.
Sorry if I picked a hackneyed topic, btw.
I think it's a good topic even if I disagree with your views.
Psychedelics should require a psycholigical bill of health.
Why? If you're mentally unhealthy, it doesn't matter what you're using, pretty much anything you're going to use recreationally is going to cause you more harm than good. And I know lots of mentally unhealthy people who use psychedelics without any incident or without worsening their condition.
Obviously if you're paranoid schizophrenic or have something similar and severe where you'll be having psychotic episodes, that's one thing. But I don't think people with more common problems like bipolar or depression or anxiety issues should be disqualified.
Heroin, coke and meth should be alot cheaper and available from legit sources to improve purity and to make dosing more accurate.
I agree. While I don't neccessarily think it'd be a good thing, I think it would definantly reduce crime and solve a lot of other problems.
Pot, Mushrooms and MDMA should be available at a specialist store like a liquor store that requires R18 and a license.
Sounds good to me.
I believe everyone should be required to have a license to use drugs. And to get the license, you'd have to do two things. 1) take a lengthy test so you are forced to read about the drugs and understand all of the consequences. 2) sign a waiver when you get your license that says you've taken a test and understand all of the consequences of drug use and cannot hold any licensed distributor responsible for any problems as a result of your drug use.
The license would also be barcoded and monitor your purchases and limit them to a certain amount so you are supplied X amount per week and your purchases per day limitted so as to keep people from distributing large quantities of the drugs to those without licenses.
However, it would be absurd not to expect people NOT to purchase drugs for people without licenses, particularly minors. Although if parents weren't such idiots these days and didn't give their kids money like it grew on trees, problems like these could be reduced.
The licenses would also be revoked indefinantly if you were convicted for certain crimes such as assault, child abuse, DUI, etc. Basically if you're harmful to others, you wouldn't have the right to use drugs until your problems were taken care of through counseling and you could show you were no longer going to be a threat to others.
However most ppl who hear this will spout a bunch of unsubstantiated nonsense about legalisation increasing use or availablity. Obviously those people have never tried to buy illegal drugs; it couldnt get much more available, or popular.
One of the funniest things you'll ever hear is someone arguing against legalization saying drug use will dramatically increase.
Right. I have NEVER in my life met, nor do I expect to meet, anyone who is going to say "I don't use drugs because they're illegal".
I'm sure there will be people who have never really considered using drugs that would consider them if they were legal. And I'm sure there will be people who do not consider them because they think they are dangerous but will be more open minded and consider them and possibly use them if legalized.
But as it stands now, the law is not keeping anyone that wants to use drugs from using drugs.
Also, if drugs were legalized I think everyone in the government oppossed to legalization would quickly change their minds once they saw the revenue generated from them.
They'd take the money and spend it on weapons to wage wars on "evil" countries like Iraq and Iran and North Korea. At the same time creating new jobs for workers to assemble the weapons.
some people can function on heroin daily, others cant; i need to sleep 12+ hours a day if im on heroin daily, this drops to 10-12 if im on oxycodone, which i find less drowsy. i think i could handle a daily oxycodone habit.
I managed an oral opiate habit for years, never really needing more than 30mgs at the most of oxycodone. I had even flirted with heroin for 6 months the first time simply snorting it with absolutely no problem. The minute I started using heroin again a second time, I was using needles - and after that first shot, it was all over.
on the other hand, if i keep my habit to once a week, and if i never actually get physically addicted, maybe twice a week, id be happy to be on heroin or oxycodone or whatever on this schedule.
That seems pretty difficult to do with heroin. As most people using it occassionally seem to end up either liking it a lot or stop caring and being using more regularly and get hooked eventually.
As for oxycodone, the tolerances people discuss always amaze me. I really don't understand the point of people taking massive doses of oxycodone trying to get high like it's heroin. It's not heroin. You should take the smallest amount possible and take it orally so you end up with a lot of benefits. You don't get sick. You don't itch to where you bleed. It last a long time. You significantly reduce the chances of getting physically addicted. I could take Percocet once or twice a week almost consecutively for years and only need between 15-30mgs. I wouldn't get blasted, but I'd still be slightly pale, be in a wonderful mood, and babble like an idiot to all my friends for hours.
I doubt any1 would feel ethically comfortable taxing heroin, unless the proceeds went to abuse clinics or something.
New York is happy to tax cigarettes by 700% knowing that a lot of people are still unable to quit.
i really dont know how any H addicts can maintain a daily habit, much less have the cash to buy enuff to where they get addicted..
The stuff I was using was pure enough that it took about a year of using it daily before I started needing more than $20 worth a day.
As for how to afford it.. I burned through $3000 in savings really fast. Then I started "borrowing" money from people without their consent and never really returning the money.
herion seems to be pretty bad in the addictive sense. but since alcohol has a worse intoxication, and a worse hangover (i'm assuming this graph is not based on long time use) it shouldn't be legal if herion isn't.
I always think I'm fine when I'm on heroin, but everyone tells me I look like complete shit and act really weird.
Im sure you have all seen those commercials saying if you buy drugs then you're a terrorist(damn propaganda) Truth is if they would legalize and regulate it then there would be no black market for it and would help put a stop to the violence..
I'd rather be supporting terrorism than the US government.
