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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Reds are definitely more sedating and more of a nice mood lift..whites generally make my anxiety worse..

I'd love for a few of to do a blind taste challenge of different strains and vendors..i think I could detect the white strains
 
Chastik said:
I'd be interested to hear people's opinions about the different . I've only purchased the Maeng Da, which came highly recommended. What are some of the other potent strains one might purchase?

I suppose we can't discuss on-line companies Kractom vendors here.
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Maeng da was supposed to be the most stumlating but in my case, it's pretty tame in that area..nice mood boost though
 
Just bought some premium bali after a long break from kratom (7-8 months). Took 3g and barely felt anything, while just before the break i used to only need 2-3g to get full effects.
I bought it from the same vendor, wonder if its because of the strain or because i no longer have that reverse tolerance thing.
 
4meSM said:
Just bought some premium bali after a long break from kratom (7-8 months). Took 3g and barely felt anything, while just before the break i used to only need 2-3g to get full effects.
I bought it from the same vendor, wonder if its because of the strain or because i no longer have that reverse tolerance thing.
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I've heard from multiple kratom vendors that there are seasonal fluctuations in potency so that might have something to do with it. Kratom also seems sorta finnicky to me.
 
Has anyone here found that using Kratom even for one day leaves them really tired and lethargic for days afterwards??

I'm not saying I'm there yet, but I DO know that this happens now if I take it 2 days in a row and it's a real bummer.

I took 90 days off Kratom cause I was beginning to get this effect and now I've only use Kratom 5 days since I started again.


The first weekend I used two days in a row and it left me tired till mid week when I dosed on a Wednesday, which also left me tired till last weekend when I dosed both Saturday and Sunday.

Now I'm falling asleep for 3-4 hours a time in the early evening yesterday and today and just dragging ass from the Kratom WD.

I can't have this happening whenever I use Kratom or I'll never be productive because even though it's far from some HORRIBLE withdrawal it makes me lazy and tired enough that it will probably seriously hamper me when I have anything important to do.


So now I'm going to only use 2 days a week but NEVER 2 days in a row....one on the weekend and another midweek....and if that still leaves me tired then just one day a week.

But I'm concerned that even one day a week is going to yield this effect.

Is there anyone here who has experienced this and who can't even use one day a week without it causing problems with fatigue for the rest of the week??

I'm REALLY hoping I don't have to reduce Kratom to a very rare thing that leaves me feeling like this everytime.
 
u should probably add that you are binging pretty hard on kratom on the days you do use..that has a big impact on the way u feel for days afterward. Imo..
 
belfort said:
u should probably add that you are binging pretty hard on kratom on the days you do use..that has a big impact on the way u feel for days afterward. Imo..
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That's true, but because nothing much less than 10 grams (I guess I could try 9) will get me high and i want to dose twice, then that means at least like 20 grams.

Dosing once in a day sucks cause I come down and just want more, but i can't dose too late or I won't sleep that night so that's a built in moderation factor.

Who knows how high I'd dose if not for that...
 
Has the flow and price of that foul tasting herb changed since the fda stepped in? I have not ordered any in quite some time now. It was never close to my favorite drug, yet it was helpful from time to time.
 
Mycophile said:
That's true, but because nothing much less than 10 grams (I guess I could try 9) will get me high and i want to dose twice, then that means at least like 20 grams.

Dosing once in a day sucks cause I come down and just want more, but i can't dose too late or I won't sleep that night so that's a built in moderation factor.

Who knows how high I'd dose if not for that...
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Bro, 20 grams? Of course you're feeling tired the next day. That's a hell of a tolerance, a lot for the body to process. I have some mediocre kratom and only need about 3.5 g for a good dose. I know your doses aren't uncommon, but I'm not surprised that they leave you feeling tired.
 
I don't get tired from kratom the next day. I take 14 grams usually. My tolerance really hasn't changed much over time, some people just need more.
 
jackie jones said:
Has the flow and price of that foul tasting herb changed since the fda stepped in? I have not ordered any in quite some time now. It was never close to my favorite drug, yet it was helpful from time to time.
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Thankfully I haven't noticed any significant hits to the price or availability of my favorite herb up to this point. You can still get really good plain leaf for a great price from the right vendors. I have built up a stash of over 5 kilos over the past few months just in case, though, lol.
 
jcdenton said:
Thankfully I haven't noticed any significant hits to the price or availability of my favorite herb up to this point. You can still get really good plain leaf for a great price from the right vendors. I have built up a stash of over 5 kilos over the past few months just in case, though, lol.
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Damn u have 5 kilos sitting around? Lol. That's what I call stocking up
 
I ALWAYS got the hiccups with enough kratom, especially from the tincture/extracts, but haven't noticed any respiratory depression otherwise, so yeah, this is a confusing one. The tincture got me nodding out in higher doses, so that means there must be some pretty hefty CBS depression going on, right? The tincture was supposed to be enhanced with a semi-synthetic alkaloid, but even plain old kratom often gave me hiccups.
 
jcdenton said:
Thankfully I haven't noticed any significant hits to the price or availability of my favorite herb up to this point. You can still get really good plain leaf for a great price from the right vendors. I have built up a stash of over 5 kilos over the past few months just in case, though, lol.
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Damn, that is a lot of k. You may have something if they make it illegal in the near future...
 
Does anyone have tips for first time prep? There are so many damn recipes I don't really know where to start lol. Right now I'm planning on trying to make some tea with a couple grams of red indo powder the same way I prep kava by just stirring the powder in hot water and then straining.
 
Slow_Mobius said:
Does anyone have tips for first time prep? There are so many damn recipes I don't really know where to start lol. Right now I'm planning on trying to make some tea with a couple grams of red indo powder the same way I prep kava by just stirring the powder in hot water and then straining.
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Mix the kratom into orange juice and chug it. If you strain it out it's not gonna work.
 
Slow_Mobius said:
Does anyone have tips for first time prep? There are so many damn recipes I don't really know where to start lol. Right now I'm planning on trying to make some tea with a couple grams of red indo powder the same way I prep kava by just stirring the powder in hot water and then straining.
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I used to heat up some peanut butter and mix the k in, then chase It with milk. It kills the taste and the fats May help with absorbsion.
 
So I took too much Kratom for a few days and I'm going through some mild withdrawal and tapering off over the course of two days.

My usual dosage is about 14 grams so I'm taking 7-8 grams today (and yesterday) and then none starting tomorrow.

What I don't get is, when tapering off a drug, doesn't it just prolong the period till you are feeling no WDs??

Like, the fact that I took half a dose yesterday and today is lessening the WD, but then tomorrow will still be my first day in a few days without ANY in my system, so won't it feel just as bad to have none in my system tomorrow as it would if I'd gone straight from my highest dose to none cold turkey???

Or is my body actually slowly getting used to less in the system so that tomorrow will be LESS uncomfortable than it would have been had I not tapered??

I learned my lesson and will be dosing less frequently in the future.
 
If you've only been taking it for a few days, you shouldn't taper. You might actually make your withdrawals worse IME. Unless kratom is vastly different from other drug dependencies
 
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