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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Kratom does not produce respiratory depression. The extracts are anyone's guess because no one knows for sure what's in them.
 
Hammilton said:
I doubt you'll be nodding from the oxindole enhanced product, it's very stimulating, in a way not too dissimilar to amphetamine.
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Can anyone confirm this? I only ask because this is the exact opposite of what I have heard other people say about the OEB.

Hammilton, if I am looking for an extract with action similar to oxycodone/oxymorphone what would you suggest?
 
Day 3 (i think) 11:00 had my 2nd teaspoon of kratom. Feeling good. Not high on thc. Will exercise for circulation/moods sake b4 work. Took one more tsp Goal-5.5 tsp. ----OK, I'm back home after a long forest hike. I was feeling so good after the first 3 tsp plus a puff of super chron and the hike that I almost decided to add an extra tsp into my plan. I realized I am feeling great and don't want to deviate from the plan, so I will wait till 3:45 to take 1.5 tsp, then wait till 7:30 for the last tsp of the day. TBPH, I feel like getting superhigh on extra kratom.
 
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Awesome man!!!
KEEP GOING! There's NOTHING in this world that feels as good as kicking an addiction. You'll appreciate your sober life so much more. We're cheering for ya!
I'm on day 4 of kicking both oxy and Kratom. Feeling pretty awesome.
 
jcdenton said:
Can anyone confirm this? I only ask because this is the exact opposite of what I have heard other people say about the OEB.

Hammilton, if I am looking for an extract with action similar to oxycodone/oxymorphone what would you suggest?
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Where did anyone tell you that? Google 'OEB Rocket Fuel' and you'll see a lot of talk about it. It's very stimulating, and not in that mu-opioid way opiates are stimulating. I'm honestly not even sure if it blocks opioid withdrawal. I have a feeling whatever semi-synthetic they've added has significant delta-opioid affinity. It has a weird feeling, felt kind of similar to amphetamine, in that it was a mostly central with some peripheral sort of stimulation that was not unpleasant, but it wasn't exactly pleasant and definitely not what I'd call euphoric, either. It was more potent than UEI, or any other 'extract' I've ever had- 250mg was active, 500mg pretty good, and anything over 750mg was just overly stimulating.

None of these products are particularly likely to produce a nod, but UEI/FST (the same product, just in different forms) would be the your best bet. For an oxycodone-like stimulating strong-opioid effect, I'd suggest replacing 250-500mg of your UEI dose with OEB, I quite liked that combination. Plus, at the cost, OEB is too expensive to use on its own.
 
I just ordered 6 grams of UEI. I actually found a trip report by you from about a year ago on here and it sounds like UEI is probably more what I am looking for. I can't remember where I read about OEB being less stimulating it was online somewhere - or I may just be remembering it completely wrong who knows. Either way, thank you for your help man :)
 
I ordered some and then tried to cancel it but it was too late so today I've been taking it all day but it does nothing... I'm prolly going to take like 15 grams no which is all I have left and see if it does anything at all... And it's so nasty, hate this shit really.. useless IMO

I have the prumium bali... I bought it from a highly recommended website from what I've read and it does NOTHING. so useless
 
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I ordered some and then tried to cancel it but it was too late so today I've been taking it all day but it does nothing... I'm prolly going to take like 15 grams no which is all I have left and see if it does anything at all... And it's so nasty, hate this shit really.. useless IMO
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What kind of Kratom did you order?

Trust me, if it doesn't do anything then you got some bad shit because truly GOOD Kratom would get you high.
 
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Reading a few of his recent posts regarding PST I'm not all that surprised he doesn't get anything from kratom.
 
fallzdown said:
Awesome man!!!
KEEP GOING! There's NOTHING in this world that feels as good as kicking an addiction. You'll appreciate your sober life so much more. We're cheering for ya!
I'm on day 4 of kicking both oxy and Kratom. Feeling pretty awesome.
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Thanks FallZ! I too got into kratom because of my morphine habit. When I tapered off the morphine, I increased my kratom doses a lot! I am surprised I made it today without going over 5.5 tsp, but I am blessed with exceptional marijuana products that helped get my mind off kratom. I am a chronic pain person which complicates things. Thanks for the support :) Wow, DAY 4! You made it IMO. Your pupils are probably big as quarters ;)
 
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Thanks FallZ! I too got into kratom because of my morphine habit. When I tapered off the morphine, I increased my kratom doses a lot! I am surprised I made it today without going over 5.5 tsp, but I am blessed with exceptional marijuana products that helped get my mind off kratom. I am a chronic pain person which complicates things. Thanks for the support :) Wow, DAY 4! You made it IMO. Your pupils are probably big as quarters ;)
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Well, I hope you're right! I would be in deep, deep trouble if it weren't for Loperamide. That drug has just saved my ass. I couldn't quit oxy or Kratom no matter how hard I tried. The withdrawals have just been too difficult for me. I felt pretty awesome today which was a good thing because I had some serious business to take care of.

Count me in the same boat. Also in chronic pain due to multiple injuries all of which involved all manner of plates and pins. Certainly not as many as others, but far more than the general public I imagine. I'm always in pain. ALWAYS. I've just learned to live with it. I will admit to taking Oxy and Kratom to get high, but the pleasant "side effect" (Jesus that sounds just crazy) is that my pain was gone. Pain meds work really well for getting rid of pain. Go fucking figure.

When I was younger I smoked herb on a daily basis. I've learned that I'm an addict, so that makes sense to me in hindsight. But anyway, I used to LOVE good bud. The irony now is that I live where it's legal and can buy a ton of the best stuff around, but smoking it makes me extremely uneasy. Like, full on paranoid and introspective and guilty. I basically go nuts with introspection and not in a good way. I ate a small piece of a brownie a few weeks back and almost lost my mind. So, I can't really enjoy MJ anymore. Let me tell you just how much THAT sucks. I literally can't do drugs. At all. I can't drink because I'm an alcoholic. I can't take Kratom because I'll eventually use it daily and it jacks up my life. Obviously can't take pain pills recreationally cause that turns into a multi-hour habit that breaks the bank. Now I can't smoke herb either. I have no choice but to remain completely sober for the rest of my life. Sure, there are worse things in this world, but come on...everyone likes to cut loose and have a little fun now and then. I really thought I could keep a few oxy's on hand and only use them when I wanted to "party" (how pathetic does that sounds?). NOPE. They're gone as soon as I get 'em. Thought I could keep some grade A Kratom around. I really did think that was the answer, like I finally found the ONE DRUG that I could do responsibly, in the open, and catch a buzz from. NOPE. Every time I try it turns into a daily ritual and I get addicted. SO. Looks like I'm outta options. Time to get clean and stay clean.

Good for you, man. Keep going and if you need to take it slow, take it slow. Just do yourself a favor and don't be a victim of your own success. It's really, really, really easy to get your tolerance lower than decide one day that you're going to take a few extra grams. It feels great ... then you're back at square one and kicking yourself. At least, that's how it was for me. Can't wait to hear about another day of 5.5 tsp or less! It keeps me motivated too!!!!
 
^lol, ok, now u motivated me to keep my tolerance down. I mean, 5 tsp is quite a bit even without the .5 ;) Yesterday I was high as fuck on weed n kratom (and a jog in the sun). Gonna try again today. Goal-3 tsp daily. I too am sensitive to all the drugs. I have carefully crafted my weed habit around the paranoia effects. Happy I can still puff, but aware that there are less caveman ways to deal w/ feelings.
 
Damn, I love this interweb. I'm a many year lurker, first time poster, cause I just gotta say thank you to everyone who spends time commenting- I haven't been able to talk to anyone IRL about my vices and because of yall I've learned valuable HR and that I'm not alone in the struggle.
Ok, enough weepy weepy.
I was totally content to be an opiate lifer, but I've had to quit in order to pass 90 days of UA's. Stumbling upon kratom thru this forum made it possible. I like many live in legit pain but only have illegitimate sources to ease the pain.
So I've been thru WD's a hundred times, I used kratom to come off two week sub taper after coming off .5g H and/or 100mg oxy/day, oh and then I had two weeks of 10mg/day dilauded...
So I did kratom starting last week and it eased WD entirely, between 5-8g dosed a few times a day. Then I got stupid and did H for two days because it was my last chance to do it before UA's begin.
Kinda echoing what Mycophile said about sweaty sleep, my long prefaced question is: I haven't slept well since stopping the H 4 days ago.... Restless sleep, flopping like a fish, sweaty... Typical withdrawl feelings. So did the H knock my tolly up? Cause I finally dosed 12-15 g bali and felt a little warm belly, happy get up and go. I don't wanna dose more than necessary and jack my tolly up more than necessary but I also want to feel good enough to get up and handle life.
Also, I got several strains (from a relatively obscure vendor) and they all looked identical in color. In pics online I see reds looking darker and rustier than mine look in person.
Ok, long intro post over, but srsly everyone who posts, you've given me hope and comfort without even knowing it, in many dark WD hours it's helped reading someone else's experience that echoes my own. Much love to the BL community.
 
Dude I love kratom. Wake up feeling like dog shit BC-powder-like 3gs with some table sugar and I perk up in 20 min!
God I love it!


There is a wide-ranging sweet spot
 
I think weed potentiates the shit out of it! Tonight on track to drop down to 4.5 tsp for the day. Think I'll do it, opiod addiction has started to feel like a dog chasing its tail.
 
^^ how much grams per tsp? and do you just take it straight up with a tsp? that seems like the cinnamon challenge.

I do sugar miked with kratom in a folded paper BC-powder style w/ juice
 
Ok...so after how many days of not pooping from Kratom/opioid use does it actually become dangerous??

LOL

I pooped yesterday and I think I might have pooped the day before, but not today, and i'm fairly irregular these days, but I don't take Kratom more than 3 days a week so that's another 4 to shit MORE regularly.

However, even on some Non-Kratom days I don't think I shit as much as I should.

Am I gonna die from less-frequent pooping??
 
^^^ yees megacolon is horrific take ducolax instead of paying $800 for e.r. docs to spoon and finger poop from your colon.
 
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