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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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tea with honey in the mouth is the way to go.. ya will get surprised..


is the law of flavour. .. kratom is crazy bitter.. and honey is extreem sweet. and honey wins so kratoms luasy taste get neutralized

when your tea is ready.. take a teaspone honey put in your mouth have it there 10sec and mix it with your spit,, drink the nasty brown liquid.... to your wonder u see now u cant taste it :)

actualliy i should have a reward to find out and tell ya :)
 
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I do 6-8 grams and use 8 ounces of either orange juice (preferably with pulp) or V8 juice, the thick juice does a good job at masking the grittiness. I can usually catch a small buzz with this if I take a couple days off in between and I have around a 40mg oxycodone tolerance.
 
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When I first tried kratom years back at this time I had no tolerance to opiates. I made a tea with a coffee maker had some good euphoria . Now after having a tolerance to opiates I do get a mood enhancement and anti-anxiety not nothing even close to say percocet
I take lower doses like 3 grams 3 times a day goes good with phenibut

What works good for potinating kratom ? I tried taking tagament 40 min b4 a kratom dose it seemed to increase the effects but this could be very well be placebo

If you just added the kratom to a drink and downed it I find that way bothers my stomach more than encapsulated kratom even though high doses I'll still throw up. I don't exactly have an iron stomach like I used to

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Honestly kratom withdrawals are about as bad anything else IME. Jumped off of 4mgs of intransal suboxone for a year( twice) which I know is nowhere near 30mgs of IV diluadid but honestly my kratom w/d's are about as bad. It may just be that for me, every set of fullblown withdrawals are worst than the last regardless of the drug.

Anyone use tianeptine to kick kratom? I'm not looking for another replacement, just something to make going to work not quite so awful.
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Maybe tianeptine at lower doses I've read that tienaptine can be real addictive itself tolerance builds quick to tianeptine at higher doses
 
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I weighed out 4g, mixed it with water and drank it.

This was my first time and it put me to sleep for the afternoon.
 
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My first time I tried 5 grams, and got an hour/hour and a half of that "life is great" feeling. 2/3 grams should be a fine first dose, just make sure to put it in gelcaps or bomb it, the taste is ungodly.
 
I took another gram about 10 hours after my first dose. I lay in bed doing nothing, but apart from the nausea I was okay. However a few hours later when I finally stood up, I puked. I would compare my experience to taking a bit too much Mdma and then having a cigarette.
 
They're both downers so be careful. I'd expect it to potentiate the kratom, at least the depressant effects. It'll probably be like benzo+opiate.
 
Hi bluelighters. Well, the kratom ran out, the money ran out so I just decided to say fuck it. Now sitting at around 48 hours of withdrawal. I should mention that I was up to 20-30 grams per day for the last maybe 9 months, sometimes more. Low doses, tightly spaced. The last 48 hours have been all hell. Restless Legs, ice cold body temperature, a wobbly dizziness, no matter what I did, no matter how many blankets, my feet and knees were so cold. I've been trapped under my blankets save for a hot bath I took which felt wonderful. Somehow I've managed to get some sleep. I can't tell how much because I'd doze off and wake up like an hour later and then struggle to get back to sleep again. But I am feeling a bit better today. I'm making sure to drink water, but I really haven't eaten much in two days. So much questioning and pondering I just wanted to shut my brain off, but I think now I can do it. I'm not feeling so cold so I think I will get up and about for a while, keep myself occupied. Anyway, just wanted to share.
 
Congratulations for your decision! :)You have gone through the worst already. Expect milder days ahead and be careful with cravings.
 
Ok...so yesterday i took my .25mg suboxone dose,and was guna try my 2nd experiment of adding kratom am hour or two after i snorted my small dose(i dropped from ~2mg down to .25mg)

So i parachuted from 1.5-2g of kratom 2 hours after my dose.and then an hour later dropped aprox. the same amount..i did this till 9pm.which i started around 2pm..i def felt them effects from kratom,but not full swing.i believe sub blocks SOMETHING..i think i musta took at least 8-12gms...all the while i think i.felt it.stronger around 6,then around 9...i think i felt more delta opiod activity because i notice wen i take the.kratim my pupils dialate but get wider like wen on antidepressants..

So befire i decide ti go to.sleep i took a 10mg flexeril..while trying to lay diwn and sleep i think i felt slight seizures in my face..i cant remembet thr name for that tyoe of seizure.but then my right side wudfel funny,and my arm and right eyelid spazzed out a few times.made my heart thump like a hard drum that i cud feel in my ears..i must add that i had taken tums in between all my parachuted kratom..so i think i may have basified some of the alkaloids also.when i woke up i felt the effects mire than the night before...but had.worn.off aboit.2hrs after.i woke up..and then took my '25mg dose wen i felt i needed it.with no precip withdrawls.

So i think maybe between parachiting my dises and.the tums..ithink hthe powder takes a while to expand and get fully wet with waterever liquid consumed and stomach acid.and possibly the tums basified some and either made the k last longer or have a diff effect..but ive.heard.of pplhaving seizures at higher doses.do that means more delta activity..
 
For my post above..i wana clarify some things....
The time i took my sub dose yesterday at ~ 3-5pm
Then first dose(all doses are aprox same amount equaling~1.5-2.5gms.)
Then starting at 7pm...again at 7:05...7:11...8...9...1:00AM...2:00....3:00AM..
..SO thats around 9 seperated paruchhted doses...And i mention paracuhted because i dont.think all of the kratom get a chance to break down and some may get wasted especially if u had packed parachutes using toilet paper.
 
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Hi bluelighters. Well, the kratom ran out, the money ran out so I just decided to say fuck it. Now sitting at around 48 hours of withdrawal. I should mention that I was up to 20-30 grams per day for the last maybe 9 months, sometimes more. Low doses, tightly spaced. The last 48 hours have been all hell. Restless Legs, ice cold body temperature, a wobbly dizziness, no matter what I did, no matter how many blankets, my feet and knees were so cold. I've been trapped under my blankets save for a hot bath I took which felt wonderful. Somehow I've managed to get some sleep. I can't tell how much because I'd doze off and wake up like an hour later and then struggle to get back to sleep again. But I am feeling a bit better today. I'm making sure to drink water, but I really haven't eaten much in two days. So much questioning and pondering I just wanted to shut my brain off, but I think now I can do it. I'm not feeling so cold so I think I will get up and about for a while, keep myself occupied. Anyway, just wanted to share.
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I've been off kratom (and anything else) for over 6 months now. (High doses, every single day.) Stick with it, it gets a lot better. I feel better off it than I did for my years on it. Good luck!
 
Thanks drewbocop.

Day 3, maybe 4 depending on how you want to look at it. Still getting the chills and restless legs when I lay down, though not quite as bad as it was the last couple days. Sleep was still hard to get, maybe around 7 hours all together, but I can find other things to focus on which is helping. I am just so tired and I want to sleep so badly. There is no doubt though that I can get through this.
 
Yeah don't worry, things should be getting better from here on. As soon as I gain the ability to sleep 8+ hours the withdrawal is nearly over IME. Even when used daily for many years 85% of my withdrawal is gone by around day 5 and by day 7 I'm essentially normal, never had PAWS from kratom either. Good luck, and congrats on kicking your habit.
 
Thanks CaptainKratom! I took a low 12 mg dose of 2-fma yesterday and that definitely helped. Not quite back to normal but feeling much much better than a few days ago.
 
Hi everyone, new poster here.

I have been clean from hard opioids (mostly opana and heroin) for over 4 years and clean from alcohol for a little over 1 year. To help quit drinking I began taking kratom; its been a little over a year now and I am consuming about 20-25 grams of high quality bali daily. About two months ago I ran out for a couple hours, thankfully a new shipment came in that day. But I was without kratom long enough to know I am physically dependent on kratom, as I experienced withdrawal effects (diarrhea, restlessness, weakness, muscle pain, etc.), all the familiar effects of opioid withdrawal, except not quite as intense.

Now, about 4 days ago I started feeling sick and was diagnosed with the flu and bronchitis caused by that flu, nothing too horrible but still pretty crappy. I started feeling sick on a Wednesday, and on that day I took about 12 grams to fall asleep and it worked fine. The next morning I woke up and felt much worse, the flu and bronchitis had kicked into full gear overnight, as I had anticipated. So I did what I always do and took some kratom (about a ~7 gram dose I think), and about 20 minutes later realized that I felt nearly nothing as far as effects go. And after waiting longer still nothing, or at least nothing more. At this point I began to freak out that some of my latest received batch was bunk and that I was about to have to quit for a couple days cold turkey while I waited for more. But that seemed very unlikely as I always buy my kratom from the same site, and it is one of the most trusted on the web (I know this for a fact). However, even though on these two days I never experienced much in the way of effects, I did not, and still have not experienced any withdrawls, and I know that I am not mistaking the withdrawl symptoms for the flu because I am not having diarrhea, a tell tale sign, at least for me, of withdrawl. I fact I am very constipated at the moment, probably because I have been high dosing in an attempt to actually get high.

My question is has anyone experienced anything similar to this? I.e., not being able to achieve even close to full effects while being sick, while still warding off withdrawl as if you had? It seems very unlikely that it is bunk kratom, considering the vendor and also the fact that I have no withdrawl symptoms.
 
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