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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Just picked up 4oz of Red Bali a couple days ago, on my way to Southern California right now to start a new job so I had to kick dope for good, (been on a month long chip this time) Combining about 7gs of kratom with 2mgs of Klonopin seems to be working well so far.
 
Ok, simple question:

I was told that Green veins are the most stimulating, with white in between and Red the most sedating.

Several other sites are saying the opposite, that White is the most stimulating, and Green the one that falls in the middle.

However, I've heard that stimulating/sedating effects aren't necessarily dependent on vein.

Thoughts on which people generally find to be more stimulating, green or white?
 
Mycophile said:
Ok, simple question:

I was told that Green veins are the most stimulating, with white in between and Red the most sedating.

Several other sites are saying the opposite, that White is the most stimulating, and Green the one that falls in the middle.

However, I've heard that stimulating/sedating effects aren't necessarily dependent on vein.

Thoughts on which people generally find to be more stimulating, green or white?
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Many find both of them stimulating. Hell I find all sorts of kratom stimulating, even strains like red bali. Lower doses tend to be more stimulating and larger ones tend to be more sedating. Having both white and green strains before, they seemed pretty similar to me, except a green strain like Maeng Da doesn't have long lasting effects to me. Just try some out yourself, it affects people differently anyways.
 
I find white vein strains to be the most stimulating, white vein kalimantan in particular. They tend to make me quite irritable which is why I rarely use anything other than bali.
 
So since people seem to find both green and white stimulating, can you guys sleep on them or is it generally only possible (or easy) to fall asleep on a red vein?

Would most of you avoid taking green or white strains near bedtime?
 
No way could I sleep on anything other than a red. I've had a teaspoon of white overpower my temazepam before, especially when I was new to kratom.
 
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No way could I sleep on anything other than a red. I've had a teaspoon of white overpower my temazepam before, especially when I was new to kratom.
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Ok, good to know.

So which do you find to be more stimulating and which do you prefer, green or white veins?

And which vein would you say is your favorite overall?
 
White was by far the most stimulating.

Green basically felt like what the white feels like once the initial stimulating euphoria wears off.

I like red the most since I mostly take kratom in the evening once I get off work but I do love a nice white strain + caffeine in the morning. I don't like to take kratom more than once a day so I usually end up waiting until I get off of work.
 
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Ok, so as far as a stimulating vein, which do you prefer and which would you recommend for someone who's never tried Kratom, white or green?
 
Man, wish I had found this stuff earlier. Went through a fairly sober period last year and this would've solved the problem.

Can't believe something legal has such great effects. Now I'm finding myself worried about a possible ban.
 
Mycophile said:
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Ok, so as far as a stimulating vein, which do you prefer and which would you recommend for someone who's never tried Kratom, white or green?
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If you gets the jitters easily from caffeine then I'd probably go with Green Malaysian if not White Kalimantan or Maeng Da are both decent. If you find that kratom works for you then it's nice to have red and white/green strains and you can start mixing and matching to get the best effects.
 
Go do some research ffs. Thai is more stimulating than Borneo, which you could easily learn if you bother to do two seconds of research.
 
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Look myco, the mans got a point. Just about any questions you have can be found with ease. There may not be alot of published studies on the subject but there is quite the plethora of users experiences that can answer all your questions. I tried being very patient to you but waking up with 3 pm's from you every day on top of what other messages I have forced me to add you to the ignore list, no hard feelings but I get tired of responding to pm's, especially when all questions asked could be answered with a google search.
 
CaptainKratom said:
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Look myco, the mans got a point. Just about any questions you have can be found with ease. There may not be alot of published studies on the subject but there is quite the plethora of users experiences that can answer all your questions. I tried being very patient to you but waking up with 3 pm's from you every day on top of what other messages I have forced me to add you to the ignore list, no hard feelings but I get tired of responding to pm's, especially when all questions asked could be answered with a google search.
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Shit, I'm really sorry dude.

You'll never receive another message or attempted message from me again, on this board, through a PM, or otherwise, unless of course I post something in this thread that you happen to respond to.

Peace
 
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I find for a red strain, Red Vein Thai is extremely energizing. Does anyone else experience this with rvt? Probably one of my all time favorite strains.
 
Thought this would be the best place to post as I have read most of the whole thread regarding kratom. I have been a recreational drug user for many years in the 90s I was heavily into the rave scene and would think nothing of popping 3 or 4 Es and a bag of speed on one of my nights out and loved it. Then comes the next day and some nasty comedowns and I found that alcohol for me used to take the edge off.

Many years have passed since then but the drug that got me was the booze. Using it for comedowns escalated into daily use and to cut along story short it got hold of me and an alcohol addiction is not an easy one to let go of. Been in rehab home detox and the only thing that has curbed my consumption of huge amounts of alcohol is age and experience. I am in my early forties and have managed to taper off alcohol but still drink the odd one or two at home.

I have recently found out about kratom and tried the green Malay kratom and as soon as it arrived in the post put 3 grams in a glass of water and drank errr bloody horrible but the effects were nice. Looked on the net and found that the best way was to make tea. The recipe was to use 50 grams in a litre of water and reduce it to 200 mls by boiling and use it for two drinks I only had 22 grams so halved it and the effects were no better than the 3 grams I used the day before and this time I did it on a empty stomach I guess I destroyed most of it by boiling it for so long.

I have ordered some Borneo red LTM for next time so will use the Captains recipe for making tea 6 fluid ounces of water and simmer for 15 mins and strain through a t-shirt but I will only use 5 grams and see how I go. I have read on this thread about parasites and tapeworm so tea is the way to go for me. The hope that hot water will kill any nasties in the leaf.

The reason for me wanting to try this is that all my life I have needed at times to flip a switch in my head and turn the dimmer switch down and living life without turning the dimmer down for me is just shite. I am getting to the stage where the 1 or 2 drinks just before bed just is not doing it for me any more. I have had my liver checked and its fine surprising after bombarding it all these years I have tried codeine dihydrocodiene H a couple of times and nodding is not my thing. I want sommat that keeps me in the driving seat in terms of how high I wanna be. I want to be in control of myself and my motor functions.

I have read and understood that you can get W/Ds from kratom but I will only use it once a week or so (famous last words) and this thing about RLS that people find so annoying I get anyway without taking anything that's partly the reason I use alcohol before bed is to calm these down. I am gonna find a strain that I am compatible with and hopefully use it to replace the booze that I consume most nights. P.S I am the worlds laziest bastard and after the green Malay cleaned the house from top to bottom The wife got home from work and got a good shock.
 
Damn, my order of 5g's UEI extract and 4 zips of white vein maeng da was supposed to be here by this past Saturday... It's now Tuesday I hope FedEx can hurry their slow asses up please. I'm detoxing from fucking methadone! Ughhh

Kratom and benzos = sweet warm relief
 
Anyone have experience mixing pseudoephedrine with kratom? I searched the kratom megathreads and pseudoephedrine didn't get any hits.
 
Kratom already has pns stim(s) in it. I don't see why'd you ever wanna add more, by taking it w pseudoephrine
 
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