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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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labile83 said:
Hi everyone. I'm new and lost! Please bare with me.
I'm wondering if Kratom could help with elimination of Tramadol from one's life, using caution of course. I'm having terrible side effects and I can't bring myself to go through the WD because I'm still on a 4mg a day CT Suboxone WD, day 12. 2 yrs of adverse reactions the sub doc didn't catch had me in one position, stopping. Lyrica story is very similar, CT last month.
So I guess I'm asking if anyone thinks it may help, short term? I'm a complete mess. I know I'm coming across a little slow, I am struggling cognitively so apologies all!
Any ideas or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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Kratom helped me a ton after I quit tramadol. The SNRI PAWS seem to last forever, and kratom definitely helped with that. Much better analgesic too
 
Thank you so much for your response! Is there specific strains you recommend I look into first? I don't believe I will be going to a headshop for anything. I think some of those shiney packages look suspicious!
 
Ya I would avoid headshop kratom, but we can't discuss any specific vendors on BL. The rule of thumb with strains is that white veins are more stimulating, reds are more sedating, and greens are somewhere in between. I would try different kinds and see what works best for you

Just keep in mind that kratom is also addictive, although I find WD to be less severe than tramadol. I don't get the crippling depression and anxiety that I get from tramadol WD.
 
I'm doing my homework for sure. I will exercise caution indeed. The tramadol along with the other WD's has me crawling on the ceiling like a spider, crab people song spewing with giant pupils... It's disturbing others! So I believe Kratom is worth a shot. Thanks again for your input!
 
labile83 said:
Hi everyone. I'm new and lost! Please bare with me.
I'm wondering if Kratom could help with elimination of Tramadol from one's life, using caution of course. I'm having terrible side effects and I can't bring myself to go through the WD because I'm still on a 4mg a day CT Suboxone WD, day 12. 2 yrs of adverse reactions the sub doc didn't catch had me in one position, stopping. Lyrica story is very similar, CT last month.
So I guess I'm asking if anyone thinks it may help, short term? I'm a complete mess. I know I'm coming across a little slow, I am struggling cognitively so apologies all!
Any ideas or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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I am techically in CT
W/d from precoset day 2 but i am taking lopermide and tried a little red bali last night did wonders
 
bluemonkey said:
I am techically in CT
W/d from precoset day 2 but i am taking lopermide and tried a little red bali last night did wonders
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Hi there! I'm happy to hear it was helpful for you. I'm particularly interested in the Bali myself. Could you be more specific in what area's it was helpful for you? My biggest trouble is restless mind and the need to go somewhere but somehow I stay paralyzed. I don't want to take benzos anymore for it, hence the Kratom interest.
I hope you are feeling ok today. Stay strong!
 
it made it feel like i took hydrocodone :) so not the best pain relief but not the worst. and normally even with lope i spend the whole day thinking about the count down " pharmacy said they would have it in 5 days and that was..." that thought plays like a stuck record all day if i don't have meds but not today.

lope deals with physical w/d but does nothing for hip pain and the mood to want to kick people... this seems a little cns acting so it took care of that bit
 
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LucidSDreamr said:
Just got in a quarter kilo of red kapuas. Hope its sedating because I've been finding the white thai I have to be too stimulating for nightime use
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Thanks for your response! I could definitely use some day time energy so I think I'll try out the white. I'm going with 10 different strains so far as I'm told I must alternate strains and each is unique. I have so many meds to get out from under and I'm looking forward to my order for sure! It's not ideal but I don't think I can cut all the meds without at least trying the kratom. Any thoughts on a strain for muscle relaxation? I'm trying to stop baclofen as well lol
 
bluemonkey said:
it made it feel like i took hydrocodone :) so not the best pain relief but not the worst. and normally even with lope i spend the whole day thinking about the count down " pharmacy said they would have it in 5 days and that was..." that thought plays like a stuck record all day if i don't have meds but not today.

lope deals with physical w/d but does nothing for hip pain and the mood to want to kick people... this seems a little cns acting so it took care of that bit
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I picked up some imodium in hope of some relief. I feel ya on the desire to kick people! I went to the store today and my facial expression parted aisles to make way lol wasn't my intention but worked out well!
The thought of a hydrocodone effect sounds like a dream right now. These tramadol are making me feel so sick, no idea why. So the Bali is definitely one I'm looking forward to trying first. So many choices but I have plenty of tinker time right now to find what works best! Hope you are feeling well and thank you for your input on the Bali!
 
labile83 said:
I picked up some imodium in hope of some relief. I feel ya on the desire to kick people! I went to the store today and my facial expression parted aisles to make way lol wasn't my intention but worked out well!
The thought of a hydrocodone effect sounds like a dream right now. These tramadol are making me feel so sick, no idea why. So the Bali is definitely one I'm looking forward to trying first. So many choices but I have plenty of tinker time right now to find what works best! Hope you are feeling well and thank you for your input on the Bali!
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if this is your first lope taper, i would tapper up and then down, especially if you have never taken lope. take 2 or 4 pills ( so that if you have an allergy you don't look bad if worst came to worst in the er you could say i took it for tummy issues.) wait like an hour if you can then take more like 2 pills more, repeat this until you feel stable. i take my stable dose for a week then i tapper down. ( when i am aiming for a break not just waiting for idiot drs ) if in the course of tappering i feel unstable i stop and take that dose for a few days to let my body adjust. By unstable i mean enough w/ds come back to have me feeling like i can't deal.
 
i have heard just from 2 friends not from studies that kramptom+ Nsaid= blister rash. Anyone else had this? could my friends just have had a bad batch?
 
i just took half a relpax and i dosed kramtom 6 hrs ago there seems to be f-all online about the interaction or lack thereof of these 2. So, if i am not in Heaven or worse hospital later i will update on this experiene. hence why i just took half a migraine pill.

not sure if it was more the time gap or not dosing lope yet today or what but relpax seems to have pushed kramtom off receptors. i am freezing and sneezing so i took my lope and i am going to bed... i hope kramtom works tomorrow once relpax wears off also i have had minor muscle twiching.
 
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bluemonkey said:
i just took half a relpax and i dosed kramtom 6 hrs ago there seems to be f-all online about the interaction or lack thereof of these 2. So, if i am not in Heaven or worse hospital later i will update on this experiene. hence why i just took half a migraine pill.
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Unfortunately, there are no real studies yet. Interactions are bound to become an issue like anything else, I imagine. Please let us know how you are doing, better or worse and perhaps someone with much more intelligence than myself would be able to assist you. Stay hydrated, limit what you put in your system for now. Especially the things you know are giving the bad reaction.
Best wishes, stay safe man.
PS. The triptan alone seems to have quite a few possible issues that could arise. Do you normally take this med on the daily?
 
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Is anyone using Kratom that is allergic to fully and semi synthetic opiates? If so, do you have any issues accompanying the kratom use?
 
so my experience is that either relpax or phenergan ( i have to take phenergan with relpax) triggers preceptated w/ds from red bali. I have been on relpax for like 10 yrs just as needed of course. The whole account is: at like 0:00 yesterday i took my daily lope dose of 28mgs. That would normally get me through 20ish hours of physically " normal" but no pain relief or mood help etc. So today i got to like 3am and still felt like i didn't need the lope. I was contemplating just going to bed. But i had the very begining of a migraine. I was a little painiced about taking relpax when I was still feeling the kramtom but needs must. So I took phenergan plain syrrup the dose amounts to 12.5mg. 30 minutes later followed that with 20mgs of relpax. an hour later it was like i had not even used kramtom.
 
bluemonkey said:
i have heard just from 2 friends not from studies that kramptom+ Nsaid= blister rash. Anyone else had this? could my friends just have had a bad batch?
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I've been taking kratom for years and have combined it with aspirin probably hundreds of times and ibuprofen a number of times as well and never had any kind of rash.
 
I'd like to chime in and propose that safety profiles depend (call that one Smartassasination) on the strain itself.

Strains, that are advertised to be particularly strong have most likely a lower safety profile. You have to find a strain, that is both relatively harmless and neverthelessd effective for your use case. In my particular situation that is a rather unique green strain. I guess green strains are the most safe strains in generally and most consistent ones effects wise.

Every strain that is rumored to be incredibly strong or amazing is a big nogo for me. Stick to your guns. Never buy extracts or "enhanced" ones. Natural, unadulterated Kratom is good (and bad, in the end it is a albeit mild drug).

Good Kratom can be used functionally. Bad Kratom gets you high and can be destructive (every strain but the ultra-strong ones are far more functional, sis is my message).
 
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