Kratom The Kratom Megathread

[Retired Trashcan]

But most people don't have anywhere near the tolerance I have.

Just basically, if you know what dose gets you high and you take a lot more than that, eventually it will stop adding to the high.

OK, I thought there was something wrong with me. Less then 8-10 grams, and I just get an upset stomach and cranky, my sweet spot is around 11-12 depending on quality. I used to be a heavy hydro, oxy and tramadol user, so my tolerance is reflecting that. I kinda chose Kratom instead of methadone. It's probably easier on the body, I don't need a Rx or a clinic and it's cheaper. How often do you dose at that amount?

 

[Retired Trashcan]

Kratom combo idea

Kratom seems to be a substance that works best with used with other herbals and/or drugs. I'm working on a combo that is relatively safe (in terms of Harm Reduction), yet is quite a nice ride.

The mix is plain leaf red Maeng Da and green Thai kratom, 1.5 grams of blue lotus 15x resin in a hot tea and Lyrica.

First I drink the tea on an empty stomach plus t&w 5 grams of green Thai. After a short bit, I eat a small snack of something with fat, like eggs and cheese.(Kratom alkaloids and Lyrica are lipid soluble, according to reputable sources). I then t&w a mix of 450 mg Lyrica and 6 grams of 50-50 red and green Kratom. When it all kicks in, I have a mild head change, good euphoria, energy and motivation, and peace of mind. I'm sure each person would need to adjust the doses to suit their needs, but damn, it feels great y'all! YMMV.

I hope this isn't considered a trip report. I just wanted to share a very nice combo for kratom that is pretty safe to use. Opinions?

 

[Mycophile]

OK, I thought there was something wrong with me. Less then 8-10 grams, and I just get an upset stomach and cranky, my sweet spot is around 11-12 depending on quality. I used to be a heavy hydro, oxy and tramadol user, so my tolerance is reflecting that. I kinda chose Kratom instead of methadone. It's probably easier on the body, I don't need a Rx or a clinic and it's cheaper. How often do you dose at that amount?

I only dose at that amount 2 days a week to avoid physical dependence.

However, it's making my eczema act up really badly so I might need to take a break.

 

[gojigirl]

OK, I thought there was something wrong with me. Less then 8-10 grams, and I just get an upset stomach and cranky, my sweet spot is around 11-12 depending on quality. I used to be a heavy hydro, oxy and tramadol user, so my tolerance is reflecting that. I kinda chose Kratom instead of methadone. It's probably easier on the body, I don't need a Rx or a clinic and it's cheaper. How often do you dose at that amount?

If u can use the kratom please do, don't back track and get on methadone. I've been on methadone for 18 months and am trying to come off of methadone slowly and increase my kratom. I have had a terrible time can't find a kratom dose or strain that even touches the achy uncomfortable pan. I am so bummed!!!! l so much wanted to be done with methadone and feeling like I had some control over my own life. If ay one has any idea please help!!!!

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

The only thing kratom might help me with is when I have a headache or cramps. As far as getting high, I noticed it doesn't work anymore. This last batch I bought did nothing at all. I don't want to take more and more. I think it's because I've been using Etizolam so long, it ruined other drugs for me. I've been off Etizolam for weeks now and was only doing kratom, but it must have raised my kratom tolerance to the point it has no effect.

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

I'm feeling something from it today so maybe all is not lost. It's not that powerful, but it's a small feeling of relaxation.

 

[Mycophile]

Does anyone here think Kratom could make eczema worse or even CAUSE it??

I've had eczema my whole life and have only used Kratom for 2 years so it definitely didn't CAUSE but I think I get a lot more eczema when I am on Kratom but I REALLY don't want to quit Kratom.

I didn't actually tell my dermatologist what kratom is but asked her if histamine increase from opioid usage could make eczema worse and she said it's possible it could increase itching but that she didn't really think it would be the primary cause for it.

But if it's making it worse what does it matter??

I want to deny that it's effecting my eczema...but I don't feel I can...and now I've fucking got sores all over my body.

Not that that's new, but they used to only be on my feet and hands and never spread to other body parts till I used Kratom.

But does correlation = causation??

I don't ALWAYS get eczema when using Kratom and I do get it even when I don't take Kratom....so I really just don't know.

I just know it fucking sucks.

 

[Tryptomaniacs]

Gahhhh i was addicted badly to kratom but ive been off of it atleast a month and i want to order some just to celebrate my sobriety almost haha i miss it alot, maybe ill give it one more month, any thoughts?

 

[belfort]

OK, I thought there was something wrong with me. Less then 8-10 grams, and I just get an upset stomach and cranky, my sweet spot is around 11-12 depending on quality. I used to be a heavy hydro, oxy and tramadol user, so my tolerance is reflecting that. I kinda chose Kratom instead of methadone. It's probably easier on the body, I don't need a Rx or a clinic and it's cheaper. How often do you dose at that amount?

Ehh I used to be a heavy heroin, methadone user and 5 grams of kratom still has me feeling nice even after 7-8 months of using it

 

[belfort]

Gahhhh i was addicted badly to kratom but ive been off of it atleast a month and i want to order some just to celebrate my sobriety almost haha i miss it alot, maybe ill give it one more month, any thoughts?

Umm u were heavily addicted to it before and now u want to start using it again?its an idiotic move imo..

 

[belfort]

Just took around 5.5 grams of Bali powder: feel slightly sedated, a comfortable yet noticeable warmth throughout my body, the feeling of 'motion blur' when I turn my head (but no nausea yet), and some subtle euphoria. In a nutshell I feel chilled but it's nothing special.

I can remember the first time I took Kratom (Maeng Da); dosed at around 1AM, had awful nausea and disorientation whenever I got up, had this all the way until around 8AM when I was finally able to get some sleep. Not fun.

Right now I'm just slowly sipping on a beer as it's supposed to make potentate it a bit?

Don't get into kratom expecting some intense euphoria like with heroin and morphine..the effects you described are what I get..just very pleasant

 

[CfZrx]

Does anyone here think Kratom could make eczema worse or even CAUSE it??

I've had eczema my whole life and have only used Kratom for 2 years so it definitely didn't CAUSE but I think I get a lot more eczema when I am on Kratom but I REALLY don't want to quit Kratom.

I didn't actually tell my dermatologist what kratom is but asked her if histamine increase from opioid usage could make eczema worse and she said it's possible it could increase itching but that she didn't really think it would be the primary cause for it.

But if it's making it worse what does it matter??

I want to deny that it's effecting my eczema...but I don't feel I can...and now I've fucking got sores all over my body.

Not that that's new, but they used to only be on my feet and hands and never spread to other body parts till I used Kratom.

But does correlation = causation??

I don't ALWAYS get eczema when using Kratom and I do get it even when I don't take Kratom....so I really just don't know.

I just know it fucking sucks.

I like the self honesty!

 

[gmlifer]

Don't get into kratom expecting some intense euphoria like with heroin and morphine..the effects you described are what I get..just very pleasant

I can get high as fuck on kratom. Feels like/better than oxy to me some days. I assume it's different for everyone.

 

[Tryptomaniacs]

Umm u were heavily addicted to it before and now u want to start using it again?its an idiotic move imo..

Yeah this is true, one thing though is when i was addicted i always bought in bulk and always had it around, but once i quit when i ran out of kratom i never ordered it again same with everything else i quit as long as i didnt have easy access to it like alcohol where i could get it in 10 minutes i had no problem other than withdrawls quitting, so im thinking if i do i wont order more than 50 grams and for me thatll last 2 days maybe haha i know im just making excuses tis what i do i gotta stop im not ordering it no! Not yet

 

[Mycophile]

I like the self honesty!

Thanks, but I still refuse to believe that it's not possible to use Kratom without it making my eczema worse.

I mean I still had eczema before I ever used it so since it's not the main cause I have a hard time buying that it will 100% of the time make it worse.

Maybe that's false logic, but I feel if I could pin down the actual CAUSE and attack THAT that maybe THEN I could get away with using Kratom without it causing eczema.

Nevertheless, I still feel in the meantime I'm gonna have a hard time abstaining even while on the antibiotics for this infection.

I have a hard time imagining that Kratom could negatively effect the antibiotics' effect on my infection but I'm trying to find out the answer to this.


Does anyone know if Kratom and Doxycycline have any negative interactions??

 

[Kleo_margo]

I have been ingesting various strains for a little over a year now and still like it very much. I have been a Maeng Da green fan for the first 4 months, then is stopped working altogether, except it kept me from going into this really annoying withrawal. So i experimented with strains and found that consistently changing the strain is the best answer for me when looking to enjoy every dose. I change strains every other day and that or some self control has kept me at the consistent dose of one to one and a half teaspoons each 5 hours. This is quite a bit i realize.
I know i am addicted as well as dependent. I do not like to run out. As i type this exactly this fear is manifesting itself.. i have lent some to a friend and now have to wait another 4 hours before i get my mail. Its absolutely uncomfortably annoying to have to move my legs all the time or being tired but unable to fall asleep. If you get your use to everyday use this is what you have to look forward to in case you ever run out of this great plant:
1-insomnia
2-irritability
3-sensitive skin (may be just for me)
4- blah feeling
5-no motivation
6- horny as all hell
7-restless body, especialy legs and arms
8-insomnia (had to emphasize )

 

[Kleo_margo]

Ha, may be very much so. I have dome patches of eczema on my leg thst have gotten red and i find myself intching unconsciously sometimes. It used to be pale, sort of flaky skin before kratom. Now it has gotten red and i immediately attributed it to prolonged kratom use (over a year). Did not stop me from taking the plant though, but your situation sounds different and may be its just because kratom dehydrates you.

Try more water. Or lower dose for a long time to notice improvements. Eczema sucks i agree. I am sorry you have to live with it. I don't wear short outfits to cover mine and still find my hand going up my pant to itch the scales...

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

^^^ Yes. Kratom can be very dehydrating so I see how skin conditions get worst. Drink plenty of water.

 

[belfort]

I have been ingesting various strains for a little over a year now and still like it very much. I have been a Maeng Da green fan for the first 4 months, then is stopped working altogether, except it kept me from going into this really annoying withrawal. So i experimented with strains and found that consistently changing the strain is the best answer for me when looking to enjoy every dose. I change strains every other day and that or some self control has kept me at the consistent dose of one to one and a half teaspoons each 5 hours. This is quite a bit i realize.
I know i am addicted as well as dependent. I do not like to run out. As i type this exactly this fear is manifesting itself.. i have lent some to a friend and now have to wait another 4 hours before i get my mail. Its absolutely uncomfortably annoying to have to move my legs all the time or being tired but unable to fall asleep. If you get your use to everyday use this is what you have to look forward to in case you ever run out of this great plant:
1-insomnia
2-irritability
3-sensitive skin (may be just for me)
4- blah feeling
5-no motivation
6- horny as all hell
7-restless body, especialy legs and arms
8-insomnia (had to emphasize )

Lol yeah the only reason I want to give kratom a rest is so I can get my sex drive back.kratom has snuffed it out completely..it's by far the worst side effect for me andi only dose 10 grams tops per day!

 

[belfort]

^^^ Yes. Kratom can be very dehydrating so I see how skin conditions get worst. Drink plenty of water.

Absolutely..kratom dries me out worse than most stims..on days I dose I have to constantly drink water even in the middle of the night, I wake up with dry mouth and im like wtf...