Kratom The Kratom Megathread

[Mycophile]

Weird question, but I'm on a diet trying to lose a lot of weight and I like to take Kratom 3 days a week.

Sometimes the Kratom makes me constipated and I won't be able to go the day I take it and may even have a bit of trouble the next day, while other times the fiber content of the Kratom will make me be able to go easily...another one of the weird contradictions of Kratom.

But usually it is harder for me to go on Kratom.


So obviously if I have to go but I can't then I am going to weigh more cause of all the shit backed up in my system lol...so does that mean that Kratom will make weight loss harder??

I know that it actually suppresses appetite so in that way it could help but if you know anything about dieting if you eat TOO LITTLE it will also be hard to lose weight cause your body will go into starvation mode and hold onto the calories.


But the thing is, regardless of whether or not Kratom makes you constipated if you only use it 3 days a week like me on the off days you are STILL going to be shitting out what you hadn't shit out before....so shouldn't the constipation not have any negative effect on weight loss??


Wouldn't it just be like if I get on the scale on a day when I'm constipated I might weigh more but in the end, overall after say, a month of dieting, the amount of weight I lose will probably be the same as if I didn't take Kratom??

Or does Kratom somehow effect testosterone in a way that I might lose less weight?

 

[FlawedByDesign]

Kratom definitely affects my testosterone but not my weight other than weight lost during w/D's. Kratom gives me the munchies like benzos and weed.

 

[Mycophile]

Kratom definitely affects my testosterone but not my weight other than weight lost during w/D's. Kratom gives me the munchies like benzos and weed.

I don't get the munchies USUALLY from Kratom.

Sometimes it may make me crave something sweet, but oddly it makes me LESS hungry for anything that's NOT sweet.

Even the occasional munchies for something sweet I can resist though unlike weed munchies.

Trying to resist weed munchies is for me just COMPLETELY futile lol.

I NEED to eat a lot if I smoke weed.


But does anyone else have more info on whether or not Kratom negatively effects weight loss due to constipation or any other reason??

I REALLY hope it doesn't...

 

[pbuilder]

Kratom didn't constipate me at all, maybe because I was used to harder opiates.

 

[Snake_Eyes]

It does me. I have to take 500mg docusate sodium a day just to try to stay somewhat regular.

 

[Mycophile]

Ok, but if it DOES cause constipation is that any reason why it would effect long term weight loss?

Like, say, how much weight I lose in a month of dieting and exercising while taking Kratom 3 days a week but abstaining 4 days a week?

Because it makes sense that when constipated one would weigh more because they have extra shit in them lol.

But because I abstain more days a week and more weeks a month than I use that shit has to come out eventually right?


So by that logic, shouldn't Kratom not effect weight loss in a negative manor??

Or is some of that shit somehow going to never fully come out?? (lol, this is getting gross but it's perhaps a bit amusing haha...)


And IF Kratom does effect testosterone at all (does it???) would that negatively effect weight loss??

I've usually heard people lose MORE weight on Kratom due to being less hungry...so that could be a plus.

And I know it effects blood sugar but not sure how...I think it regulates it so would that be a good thing in terms of weight loss??

How would its effect on blood sugar effect one and does anyone know how Kratom effects Metabolism???

Thanks

 

[belfort]

Kratom definitely affects my testosterone but not my weight other than weight lost during w/D's. Kratom gives me the munchies like benzos and weed.

how exactly does kratom affect your testosterone levels?how do you know it is os what i mean??

wtf u get the munchies on kratom!?!?i get the exact opposite, i have to force myself to eat on it....

 

[Mycophile]

Anyone else have any theories on my Kratom--weight loss questions??

I guess maybe I am in uncharted territory going on a serious diet while using Kratom 3 days a week at the same time hahah.

Well, if so, I will document whether my weight loss is more, less or equal to what I expect it would be minus Kratom from years of dieting and exercise...it'll be an experiment "for science"

 

[strigoi]

People have taken inactive fiber as a supplement to dieting to feel full ('skinny fiber' comes to mind). Kratom, being an insoluable fiber, has the same results.

 

[Mycophile]

People have taken inactive fiber as a supplement to dieting to feel full ('skinny fiber' comes to mind). Kratom, being an insoluable fiber, has the same results.

So you mean it should HELP weight loss rather than hurt it?

 

[Galwayprincess76]

Sorry, new to this, not sure where to ask my questions, I have a norco rx, that says, do not fill for 10 more days, where can I get it filled now?

 

[pbuilder]

Sorry, new to this, not sure where to ask my questions, I have a norco rx, that says, do not fill for 10 more days, where can I get it filled now?

You don't. No pharmacy is going to refill narcotics early, but if you try they may call your doctor and then say bye to your script.

 

[bug12]

kratom taken together with prescription opioids .... nbd?

 

[Lawrence Arms]

Guys i need some help.

So, I've gotten some kratom for my opiate wd from a friend. From what I understand, it's a stimulant in low doses, and a sedative closer to opiates in moderate to higher doses. My friend told me they are .4 grams per pill, and they are fucking huge and my gag reflex is on set on high right now. I can only get maybe two down at a time, and it keeps making me feel like I'm on crack. I have five left, and would like to get to the sedative threshold, if that is true. How can I take these pills other than swallowing? They're just powder I believe, and extract.

 

[legaladdict]

I'm on fent. 150 MCG patches changed every 48 hours, with oxy 10's for breakthroughs for a severe and crippling degenerative disk/tissue disease that is way advanced for my age. Not wanting the doc to think me a "seeker" I haven't told him how the meds stopped helping so much, so after 12 yrs I started sucking on pieces to help the pain, huge mistake cuz I'm running low the last several months. I am getting some kratom soon as I expect wd's and I have to work,the wd's are completely debilitating.I am now down to 50 MCG patch every two days, can someone tell me how much or how to use the kratom safely yet effectively to get me thru to my next script? I'm also looking forward to the pain relief I hear the red vein brand is good for. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[deruyityn]

I seem to get sporadic sinus infections from taking kratom. Before it happened when Id take too high a dose but this time it happend when i took the exact same dose as normal which confused me. Lasts for up to 3 weeks in the past.

Tons of flourescent orange mucous and a annoying tickle cough. I thought it was withdrawals first but there dont seem to be the other symptoms ppl mention on here of that.

In the past it would come if I took too much over a normal dose but I took the same dose as I usually do last week but the only difference was using a blend with 1g of red vein borneo which I hadnt used in a while, Id just been using the uppy strains such as thai and white vein borneo. Then towards the end of the day I started feeling that funky feeling and dreaded dry eyes and general malaise then the sinus crap came back for the past several days. And when my sinuses are packed up I find it hard to get up in the morning like a lead weight is in my head.

I dont see how it could be withdrawal since I only started again recently after a month's break, and before the months break Id been on a longer run on the kratom and had no symptoms like that when I quit for the month.

 

[legaluser]

nvm. Ill just buy powder and cap myself.

 

[FlawedByDesign]

We don't source here but you should try taking the powder and pouring it in an empty water bottle filled with half a cup OJ and shake as hard as you can The thickness of the juice really covers the taste.

 

[sedative_hypnotic]

Question about kratom: My sister takes methadone (about 40 mgs as needed) about 5 times a week (for her severe headaches due to a neck injury,) as well as 2mgs. Klonopin twice daily for anxiety and Ambien for insomnia. I want to be clear that she doesn't mix these things all at once, but she does take all of them on a pretty regular basis. Anyway, she wanted to try Kratom, but didn't know if it would work due to methadone's cross -tolerance with opiates/opiate-like drugs. She had taken her methadone dose at about 10 last night, and today was feeling particularly anxious amd depressed. So even though (as mentioned before) she doesn't typically combine drugs, today she took a 2mg Klonopin and smoked a bowl. She had the notorious munchies, and took a trip up to the convenience store; they sold Kratom, and she bought a 4 pack of Maeng-Da Organic Krarom, as well as one of those "Zen" shots which supposedly has Kratom in in. She took the whole shot and took 2 pills. She says she feels very relaxed and heavily buzzed, and and I would say that it was because of the weed and the Klonopin. However, she said that she felt an opiate-like high as well (and it can't be from the methadone, as it wore off this morning). Therefore she thinks that the methadone did not have a cross tolerance with the Kratom. It could be the weed/ Klonopin combo, or just placebo effect. I know there's no way to know, since for some, weed+Xanax by itself causes an opiate-like high, but I just want some opinions/ analysis...

 

[Mycophile]

Question about kratom: My sister takes methadone (about 40 mgs as needed) about 5 times a week (for her severe headaches due to a neck injury,) as well as 2mgs. Klonopin twice daily for anxiety and Ambien for insomnia. I want to be clear that she doesn't mix these things all at once, but she does take all of them on a pretty regular basis. Anyway, she wanted to try Kratom, but didn't know if it would work due to methadone's cross -tolerance with opiates/opiate-like drugs. She had taken her methadone dose at about 10 last night, and today was feeling particularly anxious amd depressed. So even though (as mentioned before) she doesn't typically combine drugs, today she took a 2mg Klonopin and smoked a bowl. She had the notorious munchies, and took a trip up to the convenience store; they sold Kratom, and she bought a 4 pack of Maeng-Da Organic Krarom, as well as one of those "Zen" shots which supposedly has Kratom in in. She took the whole shot and took 2 pills. She says she feels very relaxed and heavily buzzed, and and I would say that it was because of the weed and the Klonopin. However, she said that she felt an opiate-like high as well (and it can't be from the methadone, as it wore off this morning). Therefore she thinks that the methadone did not have a cross tolerance with the Kratom. It could be the weed/ Klonopin combo, or just placebo effect. I know there's no way to know, since for some, weed+Xanax by itself causes an opiate-like high, but I just want some opinions/ analysis...

I have no knowledge of Methadone at all, and only a little bit of knowledge of Ambien having taken it a bunch of times years ago but I didn't like the effect, felt it knocked me out too much....but I have lots of knowledge about Klonopin, Kratom and Weed.

Not sure exactly whether you are asking if the combo is safe or are you asking why she felt an opiate high???

If it's the latter....yes, I think Kratom is what gave her the opioid high plus maybe some left over Methadone from the half life because weed HEAVILY potentiates Kratom and increases the opioid high and I would GUESS that weed also potentiates Methadone but I can't be sure.

Then Klonopin potentiates most Opiates so I'd ASSUME it potentiates Methadone, but from personal experience I feel that it does NOT really potentiate Kratom so much in the sense that it eliminates most of Kratom's stimulant properties.

However, I think I WOULD say it SLIGHTLY potentiates the OPIOID/Downer side of Kratom...just a little....but I prefer not to take Klonopin when I'm on Kratom cause I like the stimulant effect.

Then you didn't say she took Ambien...but DEFINITELY Klonopin and Methadone potentiate Ambien...to the point that that COULD be a VERY unsafe combo if taken in large dosages....possibly fatal....


In the end...she's taking a LOT of drugs that potentiate eachother...so no shit she's going to feel high lol!!!!


But leaving out the methadone the combo of Kratom, Klonopin and weed is DEFINITELY a safe and very fun combo and nothing to worry about.

Even with the Methadone so long as the Klonopin dosage is low enough it's probably safe.

I don't understand exactly how Methadone and Kratom work together though so that is a question for someone who understands this stuff better.


It's the CNS depressants of Methadone, Ambien and Klonopin which she needs to be careful not to combine in large dosages.

Kratom is not known to be a serious CNS depressant and almost everyone who has ever done it agrees it does NOT depress breathing (at least PLAIN LEAF...extracts who knows....).


So I don't think it matters how much Kratom, weed and hopefully a moderate dose of Klonopin she combines (2mgs sounds fine).....but be careful with the other stuff.

Her opioid high is probably the combo of Kratom's downer effect partially stimulated by the Klonopin with the stimulant side suppressed by it however in combo with weed potentiating the Kratom and possibly a small amount of methadone left over as well....sounds like a nice mild opioid/benzo/weed cocktail that would give almost anyone a nice high.