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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Opiator said:
^^ A friend of a friend of a friend just recently purchased 2oz of Bali and 1oz of Super Indo, as well as 20g of Red Indo. Almost everything from this particular vendor is out of stock and prices are ridiculous. :/
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Thats weird, I can still get all my Indo and Bali for regular prices, and nothing is out of stock
 
Oh ROXIanne! said:
^Hey if you dont mind me asking did you kick the kratom? I remember you asking about PAWS and was wondering how long they lasted for you?
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Yup, I kicked everything, the codeine and the kratom. I still get bodyaches from fibromyalgia that I have, so now I just take California Poppy (which doesnt do a whole lot, but at least it helps a bit).

The PAWS I didnt really get, and its been aboot 8 weeks since my last kratom batch. I do miss kratom a bit though, its a wonderful little plant
 
Thing is, I've bought form this vendor for months and months and the quality has been decreasing and decreasing...I guess I could find a new vendor, but it'd make me sad to leave these guys as they have an easy-to-use website and sell awesome stuff like scales and capsule machines.
 
Fresco said:
Yup, I kicked everything, the codeine and the kratom. I still get bodyaches from fibromyalgia that I have, so now I just take California Poppy (which doesnt do a whole lot, but at least it helps a bit).

The PAWS I didnt really get, and its been aboot 8 weeks since my last kratom batch. I do miss kratom a bit though, its a wonderful little plant
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Thats awesome!!! I hope to be right there with you in a month or so.:D
 
Just did about 15g of Ultra Red Indo using the OJ method. Still queasy. But I'll update as far as the effects are.
 
I've tried kratom several times, from several sources (liquid, leaf, and capsules) but never really noticed any definite effect. I've read that, excluding extracts, you will only feel something similar to 10 mg hydrocodone or 60 mg codeine, which I wouldn't barely notice. Has this been your experience? It seems most kratom users are using it to get clean from opiates, & I'm sure their effects would be different due to kratom relieving their withdrawals (kind of how a cigarette feels so great when you're in nicotine withdrawal, but for a non-smoker it's no big deal).
 
I enjoy kratom for what it is. I have never been dependant on opiods however I do use oxy/hydro once a month and have so for almost one and a half years. Maybe I just have strange body chemistry because I can take 1.5 teaspoons of plain leaf and get comparable effects to 20mg hydrocodone. One teaspoon of plain leaf with a 1/4 teaspoon of powdered extract will give me a buzz similar to (if not better) than 15mg oxycodone. I shoud note that if I'm doing kratom or opiods I always add in a couple vapor hits of cannabis.
 
Cutting back my daily kratom use right now, and it's a bitch. Short version: withdrawals occur just as they do with other opiates. Kratom is not a free ride to Funland. Most of us know this, but for those who don't--beware.

I hadn't heard of a shortage but noticed a lot of "sold out" strains on my vendor's site. Glad I'm not nursing a huge habit right now!
 
Thank you for the information.

Currently using trams (abt. 250-300 mg, daily) to stop oxy w/d (G.D. Doc put me on them - knowing my history). Want to stop taking trams, Can I start taking Kratom same day (abt. 12 hours after last tram dose) or should I wait until the next day? Anything to be concerned abt. (tram/kratom) [this] mix? Have lots of trams but don't like them. Long time opiate user (started in '68)...kinda like an old dog with no teeth...


Woof!
 
Does anyone have any experience with the tinctures of kratom? I usually just stick to standard Thai capsules and was curious about the liquid form.
 
Does anyone remember the Forbes article back in February titled "The Kratom Experiment Begins"? Well the results are in, he didn't post it to Forbes but to his own blog, since he accepted free samples, and being paid by Forbes believed it would be unethical to print it there. Read it for yourself:
http://www.daviddisalvo.org/the-daily-brain
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by his opinion, hopefully it carries some weight out there...
 
My first experience with kratom. I used to be addicted to h pretty bad until about 8 months ago. Recently I got a kidney stone and the pain was so bad I went to the hospital and was prescribed painkillers. So, after I ran out of the prescription I was still craving the opiate high again, but didn't want to start doing opiates again and I'd read about Kratom. I did about 10-20mg of oxycodone per day for about a week and a half and then 30mg for 3 days and haven't taken anything in 2-3weeks. I got Bali kratom in capsules and took about 6g,I felt a little something, but not really much. I'm wondering if I should bother taking more, since it's already so many capsules at once, if I take 10-15g would I feel more? I figured since I haven't taken anything in weeks and my habit was not all that bad or for very long that I wouldn't need much kratom. I'm also wondering if my previous opiate addiction history is the reason I don't feel much off 6g. Is it worth it for me to keep trying the kratom at higher doses or should I try a different strain? Also has it ever caused any anxiety for anyone? I feel like it may be giving me some anxiety right now, I took it about 4 hours ago.
 
Bali shouldnt cause anxiety as it is one of the more sedating strains. If you do decide to redose i would suggest emptying the capsules into a bottle with a bit of o.j. shake and chug. IME kratom hits you alot harder when not in capsules. On a side note Im on day 2 off of kratom after using about an ounce a day for 6 months and with the help of a bit of etizolam, lope, and alot of bench presses and sexual intercourse I feel pretty darn good.
 
idk about you. i have gotten thai, bali, maeng da, malay, blends of those, extracts, ect.. and it always just feels the same, just in different strengths. the strength of the leaf isnt defined by the strain, but rather by the technique and care of how the grower gave to his plants.

i miss kratom. it is legit when you get it from a good source.
 
While the strength of the leaf isnt defined by the strain the characteristic of the high most certainly is, IME anyway. For me things like bali and red vein borneo feel very much like opiates and can help me relax and get some sleep while strains like maeng da and green malay have a very slight opiate feel to them but are much more stimulating. The only exceptions are super strong extracts like UEI which have a very strong opiate feel to them while also being very stimulating.
 
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The next day I took 16g and I did feel a mild opiate-like high but was so nauseous from it I didn't really enjoy it. I might try that extract or not the capsules. Had to take 32 which was a pain, so maybe drinking with oj would be better.
 
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