The Kava and Kratom Crisis

If this dipshit "dr" knew how to actually make some real money and win supporters from both sides of the spectrum he would actually utilize kratom to help pateints get off of real opiates. I belive this is the same asshole who put some "Kratom addict" in florida on fucking subs. Unbelievable. Hes a disguting pig, don't know how he sleeps at night.
 
Honestly, I don't think that the compounds are gaining sufficient negative publicity to garner a federal ban. I believe that there will need to be a kratom-related death on record, or at least several well-publicized hospital visits, before it will be scheduled. I mean, look at salvia: despite all the media-hoopla and the patchwork of state-by-state bannings, it still remains unscheduled federally, whereas with synthetic cannabinoids, scheduling followed a couple of well-publicized (but dubiously accurate) 'apparently related' deaths.

ebola
 
Ebola, I do however believe that the synthetic noids can be very harmful. Theres quite a few severe side effects that people reported on record. Psychological and physical. Also some fairly severe habits/addictions Ive heard about. I personally would never touch them.
 
al-laddin said:
Ebola, I do however believe that the synthetic noids can be very harmful. Theres quite a few severe side effects that people reported on record. Psychological and physical. Also some fairly severe habits/addictions Ive heard about. I personally would never touch them.
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No doubt they are harmful but are they lethal is the question.
 
i dont know much about kratom but i do know Indonesia have really been clamping down on shit latly, as have some other countries from that area. id take this as a little bit of a warning if theyve stopped exporting kratom. hope for the best but prepare for the worst people.
 
Ya know, I thought of that doctor who did the Subs for Kratom also, which was the stupidedst girl I've EVER SEEN also, was pretty much like "oh i was doing all this kratom and got a bellyache and threw up but couldn't stop wahhh, give me something 32x stronger than morphine to replace this horrendous Kratom habbit waahhh". Remember someone one saying it was like giving adderal to someone w/ a coffee habbit which is true,IMO. But anyway, article is dumb, shit like this pisses me off. And I can tell anyone out there who think there kratom habbit is bad, try to kick subs, that poor girl was probly hung herself after the doctor told her there were no W/D and took her off at 2mg or something....bet she felt waay more fuckin buzzed than a few teaspoons of Kratom to, thats for sure..couldn't even imagine just going to Subs from Kratom...bet she got waay more buzzed up than she had been being, especially the first week on the shit...

Edit: And their going after Kava now too?! LMAO, AND CHRIST. Get a benzo habbit(not really, sucks.) I mean, does Kava kava even have W/d's? People go into seizures and shit??
 
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23536 said:
Raul J Rodriguez, MD is the founder and Medical Director of the Delray Center For Healing, as well as the leader of the Delray Center DBT program.
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This guy makes money off of desperate drug addicts.
 
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