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The junk scene in AUS - specifically Melbourne

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focalSlam

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I have a friend, who is writing a book. Not because he wants to, it just seems the right thing to do. The book begins in Melbourne, the problem being - my friend has never been to Melbourne! or anywhere South of the Equator.

Why not elsewhere, I ask him, why the Briscoe Ln. off of Little Collins must begin your book Why Australia at all? "has to be Melbourne," he replies, "you'll see soon enough." So I give up and ask for help, my brothers and sisters. Among other major subjects, the novel delves into the world of junk, that is heroin, that is our favorite drug, the safety blanket, always warm and fuzzy - until the fuzzy points turn dirt that is.

But to the fun parts! Could anyone living the lifestyle, I apologize, using the substance, educate me on some of the slang terms that ya'll use down there, maybe a certain "hang out corner," cafe. (unless that would be considered a source, in which case, you know better:X) (as do I). What does it look like down there, how available, is it "popular" or "chic" or just "junk"? Do people look down on us or are they used to us? Answers to some of these questions would make my friend's life much easier - he'd hate to make a fool of himself - this time on paper.

Meanwhile, he has been using Google Earth to depict the scenery, more importantly the # of blocks, etc, in a somewhat accurate manner.
Google Earth pops up all the pharmacies and coffee shops in the area, so that's kinda cool.

My apologies for wasting your time, but it would truly be a treasure trove of knowledge for my friend.

Sincerely yours,

Focal

(PS I'm new here, don't kick to hard)
 
Ummm it's mostly frowned down on in Australia except in the older generation 30+ years old.... Can be a bit difficult to source and is more on the pricey side compared to a lot of other drugs. Personally it is one of my favourite drugs but in my circle of friends only a few of us do it because everyone else speaks so badly about it.

Can't tell you where to get it from bro because that is sourcing and everyone knows better then that :)

Slang terms used would be very similar to where you are from I am guessing and seeing as though we don't know whether you are a LEO doing their research I am not going to disclose any secrets ;)
 
I'm a part of the younger generation I suppose, and have never been interested in opiates, nor have I heard of many people being users.

People that I know in my age group (18-22) tend to look down on Heroin use, or any drug use that involves injecting. This is due to the fact that people my age are more interested in 'party drugs' for recreational use, whereas Heroin is a 'junkies' drug.
 
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I'm a part of the younger generation I suppose, and have never been interested in opiates, nor have I heard of many people being users.

People that I know in my age group (18-22) tend to look down on Heroin use, or any drug use that involves injecting. This is due to the fact that people my age are more interested in 'party drugs' for recreational use, whereas Heroin is a 'junkies' drug.
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Definately. Heroin is the most stigmatized drug by far, in pretty much all circles. Even the 'I have a pipe instead of breakfast in the morning' speedfreaks look down on it, the drug scene in Aus is very party based, and heroin isn't really a party drug at all, so it's limited to a much smaller niche. Meth at least can be used to go out and get messy and have fun with mates on the weekend, with H you have the combination of the stigma surrounding opiates (antisocial, not a party drug, there's basically no pretense of doing anything other than getting really really high), needle use (dirty, diseases, OD's, etc) and the scene that surrounds it, which has the reputation of being very much a junky crowd. Hell, I even know people who're addicted to oxycodone who say 'fuck no, wouldn't touch that shit' when I ask them about H.

The stigma is less in Sydney/Melb, which at least have a scene of sorts, but even there it's pretty much viewed as an 'end of the line' kinda drug.
 
okay, before you guys get quick to shun...

i fit your age bracket repress (18-22/23), i've been a heroin user since i was 20. I've kicked the habit now - but making the assumption that 90% odd people in our age bracket (i'd say the bracket is a little more diverse than those 4 years... perhaps 20-25 works better here... 18yo's still generally lack a lot of maturity) hate heroin, is just that, assumption. There are people from all different socio-economic backgrounds that use heroin, it's not just limited to "junkies".

I don't understand why melbourne hits your radar as heroin capital of the world? perhaps 11 years ago you might have had a leg to stand on, but now it's so heavily policed - you can barely score a decent street bag, let alone actually get the gear from someone reputable unless you know them - holding a weapon is a must.

There are a few areas around here, many more around the 1999 mark, that are well renowned for street dealing and solicitation of heroin amongst other drugs - i'll note that in these areas, when you ask someone for "gear" they're going to assume you mean heroin, and not something else.

These area's, especially today, are built around High Density Housing Projects (flats), where people of lower socio-economic backgrounds tend to congregate. This in itself creates the major issues of area's becoming "junkie", even if the area has a high market value for houses - people seldom want to live near these flats.

It's not rocket science, poverty and addictive drugs go hand in hand due to the fact people like to escape poverty, if only for a short time.
 
First of all, thank you all for your responses, my friend will be stunned with joy. I can't write much now but - I'm not a Leo, actually Aries, so...

MrIbis said:
okay, before you guys get quick to shun...

i fit your age bracket repress (18-22/23), i've been a heroin user since i was 20. I've kicked the habit now -
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Same here - longest been off - the rest of what you say is true though.

MrIbis said:
I don't understand why melbourne hits your radar as heroin capital of the world?
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It does not by far - it's just where the writer would like to place his characters to begin with. Once again, not sure why.

I will post some more detailed stuff once some work gets done.
 
^I take it you're from the USA, and in saying that - if your friend wants to write about Australia, you'd want to be using Australian Drug Culture as a reference, not American. Most things, especially the slang - is VERY different.

We could say all we want, but how much you'd understand is very different. Perhaps watching the movie "Candy" would give you some, maybe a tiny bit - of indication into 'australian junkie life'. Where as you guys get "dime bags" and all these random measurements - here its just caps, half grams, grams, 8balls, Qs and Ounces. Beyond that you got pounds and kilos (with your honest lb in AU weighing in at roughly 500g/half a kilo). However how many low end heroin users have ever seen a kilo or even a pound of their favourite substance before it's shot into their arms is well beyond me.

I honestly think, that if your friend considers writing a book that would encompass australian lifestyle - that he takes a trip down to the heroin ravaged areas of Melbourne and Sydney and take up how different they are to what he's used to (lets say for reference Baltimore). The trade in places like that is predominately black/hispanic where as in Australia it's very much controlled by Asian cartels.

food for thought.
 
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MrIbis said:
There are a few areas around here, many more around the 1999 mark, that are well renowned for street dealing and solicitation of heroin amongst other drugs - i'll note that in these areas, when you ask someone for
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Are you Jason? ;):):)
 
bent Mk2: I have been in the past, and my brother is (no his real name is jason)

"Are...yaaaaa Jason mayteeee"

hyroller: rofl - caught me out!

bloody slags.

Yes i meant slang, but cbf editing it.

Edit - edited the damn typo.. it pissed me off within about 2 seconds

just noticed this thread is like the "parrot ibis" thread.
 
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MrIbis said:
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just noticed this thread is like the "parrot ibis" thread.
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Haha well you beat me to recommending "Candy" =D Great movie; Heath Ledger and Geoffrey Rush were both very classy actors in it and Abbie Cornish is damn cute. I'd rate it above Requiem For A Dream for a heart-wrenching heroin film too.

Baaaack on topic; it might be worth checking out the ODD price comparison thread too. I'm pretty sure a gram here is stupidly expensive compared to places in Europe or North America. I can't really comment on the Melbourne scene though.
 
^indeed :) quite a good show.. Although i've spoken to real people from Baltimore, and it seems that is very much the situation there.

hyroller:
a gram here is worth a bit, but if you know the right contacts, 1.7g can be bought for a fraction more, hence why my habit was around the 8ball a day mark.

heheh wtf r u doin up as early as i am.
 
MrIbis said:
^indeed :) quite a good show.. Although i've spoken to real people from Baltimore, and it seems that is very much the situation there.

hyroller:
a gram here is worth a bit, but if you know the right contacts, 1.7g can be bought for a fraction more, hence why my habit was around the 8ball a day mark.

heheh wtf r u doin up as early as i am.
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lol I left the lappy open with a few BL pages when I fell asleep ;)

but yeah - funny you should say 1.7.... that's exactly how it is with meth, too... half 8-balls have become a standardised unit of measurement in the drug world it seems.
 
^i've found "teeners" (half an 8ball - 3.5grams which is an 1/8th oz.) more common in the meth crowd. dealer tactics beinga major foundation around the weight
 
Ok well my drug circle is around the 18 year old low to average income group and most people have tried weed to xanax to amphetamines but Heroin. Heroin is spoken of as the devil, people view it as the dirtiest, most dangerous and worst drug.
Personally I want to try it more than anything in the world but can't seem to find it anywhere in Melbourne.
But yeah, from that sort of age group that's the view it gets. and generally the richer people are the more they look down on it.,
 
I personally dont look down on heroin users, although i wouldn't go down that path myself. Friends that im often around anywhere between 18-25 will do just about every drug except opiates, and this is of course strongly based around the type of party scene.

But this opinion comes down to what you as an individual experience's and draws to as a conclusion. If your in that 'party scene'.. that's out on the town, raving, clubbing and whatnot, of course everyone in that scene will be looking down on opiates because its not a drug that fits in with it. So there opinion is heavily subject to the atmosphere they place themselves in.

I'm part of a scene where LSD,Mushrooms and DMT are commonly used, more-so then any other drug, yet to alot of people this would be rare and possibly even looked down upon as 'drugs that make you crazy' by a majority.

I think as a whole, the younger generation does look down on opiate use and views 'the needle' as rock bottom as far as drugs go, i know alot of people who aren't completley morally accepting of there own drug use and fear been labeled a 'drug user'.
 
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