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i heard that an lsd synth actually requires more than one chemist... 8o
- wow

anyone who knows how to make it though, might as well carry out it's chemical analog of ald-52 ----->
(lsd's legal version)
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I know we are not talking about an epibatidine synthesis. Now THAT would be hard to do.
 
yea, ald-52 is an old formula from the man hofmann himself, but doesn't really have alot of history as not alot of people are willing to go the extra mile to make it.. it's supposably if not as strong, stronger, and without all the anxiety, it's more of a 'relaxed' trip
---> also another thing that's pretty interesting about it is that it's no where near as toxic as lsd...
 
is there any synthesis available for ALD-52 that dont require the creation of LSD first?

and what about MLD-41 have you heard of this?
 
think of lsd as a precursor to ald- without it, there is no product----> although i do have a synthetic route that may bee possible, don't know if i can post it up here tho
- just did a quick reading on mld-41 and it appears there isn't too much information on it either, but from the looks of everything, it's only comparable to lsd by a mere fraction
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Oviously, everything in Pihkal/Tihkal can be made, as evidenced by the fact that they have been made. I could probably make the 2c-x compounds, not that I would, but LSD is a different matter. If you live outside the US, fine, but try to order any ergo compound here, I honestly don't know what would happen, but my guess is you will be halving a long, unpleasent conversation with the DEA.
 
no0b said:
yea, ald-52 is an old formula from the man hofmann himself, but doesn't really have alot of history as not alot of people are willing to go the extra mile to make it.. it's supposably if not as strong, stronger, and without all the anxiety, it's more of a 'relaxed' trip
---> also another thing that's pretty interesting about it is that it's no where near as toxic as lsd...
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How toxic is LSD?
 
ALD etc...

First: It only requires one person to manufacture LSd but it is VERY time consuming so it would be great to have a helper. For a molar run it takes a good 2 days.

As for ALD...It is an analog of LSD that was rediscovered by
Tim Scully when he found Hofmann, et al's paper in a Berkely library. The end product WAS legal [prior to the analog act pushed by the DEA after all the fen analog ods in Cali. The problem even though it WAs legal was that in order to make the product, you had to first synth LSD, which of course meant that even though the net product WAS legal, the process to manufacture it was just as illegal as it ever was so that it was self defeating.

Here is how Scully once again proved himself a genius. He reversed the process [the key step is the acetylyzation] so that it was now entirely legal from start to finish [until the aforementioned DEA push].

Ever hear of the "Brotherhood?" Well, the famed "Orange Sushine" that they were so famous for was Scully's [and his then partner Nick Sands] ALD! Nobody could tel the difference. In fact, alot of the papers on ALd point to a superiro experience with ALD!
 
How toxic...

There is no proof that LSD [the fraudlent 1968 paper not withstanding of course] that LSD is toxic at all [at least in many times the maximum human dose].

Noob: All ALD is is acetylated [more or less anyway] product. It is a simple step in addition to the origianl scheme. The reason that not many people produce it is because there is no need anymore. It is no loner legal and the work to required for LSd renders it an unpaltable endeavour.

Giza: No, there it is impossible to manufacture ALD without LSD, although you do not need to actually make LSD per se. Still, the end result [prior to acetylazation] is just as illegal as LSD .
 
ALD-52 is no dought an analog in the US, but then so are lots of others which are commercially available. I'm obviouly no expert on Asian drug law, but I'm guessing most them have no laws against most of these drugs. Seems like I remember seeing a picture on erowid of a sample of 5meo sold openly on the street in Japan.
 
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The standard dosage of ALD is exactly the same as for LSD. It has a much lower toxicity but equal physical and psychological effects.

As for Asian laws...almost all Asian nations do have laws covering it. The exceptions MIGHT be Laos and Cambodia. Japan was no different from most any other nation when RCs first started to surface. Now however they are very in tune with international standards [unfortunately]. It isn't really relevant though as RCs are still widely available.
 
The real question is whether they bother to inforce those laws, and the two biggest, most important Asian countries apparently don't. Laos amd Cambodia probably don't inforce laws against having sex with 10 year old girls, but those are neither the laws nor the countries we are really discussing here. No source discussion, obviously, but they either don't care, or just aren't paying attention.
 
As for Cambodia, there are existing laws in most areas, but as you have stated, most are not enforced. In cases of pediophelia however, the laws is strictly enforced [at least for the last decade or so]. Laos does not have much of a pediophelia problem but does have a developing drug problem. As of late. the amount of tourists in Laos is extremely small so that the authorities are not really persuing casual drug offenses. in fact, Laso is about the only place on Earth where you can still find actual opium dens [albeit overpriced for Westerners].
 
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