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The Great Debate: USA pills vs The Rest of the World

i have only tried pills in the US (~4 diff types). one was bunk, the others had mdma in them but only one did not have amp

it seems that amp is dominating the Us pills and i hear that the british ones are not that strong.


but if the Dutch still produce the best pills, then it would be logical to think the surrounding nations also will have the best ones.
 
I obviously can't say for sure, since I've never taken any pills out of the country, but I would have to guess that the pills I've taken here were stronger than the pills people take in Europe. What I base this on is the fact that so many people in Europe take ridiculous amounts of pills. I've only taken more than 5 pills once and I got VIOLENTLY sick. WAY too much MDMA. IME there is only so much you can take before it becomes undesirable. I think anything over 500mg is an overdose that is gonna create some seriously undesirable effects. And thats just me guessing how much MDMA I've had in my pills. I estimate the best pills I've had were from 70-100mg each. So by that math, I've taken 350-500mg at most with desirable effects. Well, I've read about many, many users in Europe consuming in excess of 20 pills. IMO, that is just not possible if the pills were 70-100mg each. Even 10 pills at 70mg each would produce undesirable effects, IMO. So, I would have to assume the pills these people have taken were significantly weaker.
 
^^ haha yeah
ive always wondered how people say they have taken like 20+ pills. after like 5 theres really no point...
 
never taken an American pill, but here in d'UK its some good some bad, gotten worse in recent years, but MDMA crystal is much more popular now

I agree that taking more than 4/5 decent pills is pretty pointless. more an oblivion than a buzz, but some people just love doing it, bloody pill monsters..
 
You have to factor in tolerance. Remember someone who takes 5 pills who doesn't roll that often will feel the effects big time. However, someone who rolls weekly (and for years upon years) will have a huge tolerance so eating 20 pills in a night or so wouldn't seem like that much. But your right, even 20 pills would have to have a low amount of MDMA to consume that much. I remember back in 2001 I was getting pure mdma pills (edata tested) and rolling every friday, I remember taking up to 7 or 8 pills in one night. These days pills have so much amp in them I can't consume more then 4 even if I wanted to because of the amp factor. It kind of puts a damper on things. I don't think they see much amp in pills overseas.
 
ive only had pills in the united states but i know they have come from all over. pressed qualities vary but i usually find strong mdma only pills. ive had imports that were weak.

ive seen everything from mde mda mdma 2ct7 2cb foxy.

all i can say is the last roll i had was a 180mg 98% pure crystallized mdma, huge shards. that shits the bomb

your pills are as good as your connection, no matter where you are.


i think we got it goin on in the us of a as far as our drugs are concerned.


and im stoned
 
people in europe , well in the netherlands actually take up to 20 pills because they dont spend more than 1-2 euro's on a pill, ps most people dont take more than a few dont make the exception the rule
 
Dutch pills must be the best. You can take as many as you like just depends on how long you wanna be buzzing for.

my norm is 4 mdxx high pills (12 hours period) and i'm done.
 
Dutch must easily be the best for quality
UK's pretty good for low prices, even if the quality fluxtuates wildly haha
 
when I was in the USA ( Dallas, Texas ) from 2003 to 2005, Pills where really good, every single batch was amazing.

then I moved to europe, and I finally meet molly ( and molly was very strong ) reminded me a first time experience with more energy and more happiness.

then for some reason molly went down on quality, I have no idea why is that, but I went back on pills ( this is in UK ) and I got some good batches, much better than molly sold in the UK.
 
BingeBoy said:
people in europe , well in the netherlands actually take up to 20 pills because they dont spend more than 1-2 euro's on a pill, ps most people dont take more than a few dont make the exception the rule
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What does price have to do with anything? You couldn't pay me to take 20 pills in one night. I'd just assume blow my fuckin brains out.

And of course not all Europeans take that many pills, but I've read about more than a few just here on Bluelight.
 
Admittedly I've taken more pills than I need to. When you've got them with you and you're already fucked and they cost less than a pint of beer you just say "fuck it".

You do, of course, regret it the next morning :D
 
the LD-50 for mda is around 3300 mg for a 60+ kilo person so ...
if you take 12 pills which are 280mg each you reach that level at which 50% die
so...all these stories about dickheads taking 20+ pills is bullshit unless they are bunk...
 
<MINDETERGENT> said:
the LD-50 for mda is around 3300 mg for a 60+ kilo person so ...
if you take 12 pills which are 280mg each you reach that level at which 50% die
so...all these stories about dickheads taking 20+ pills is bullshit unless they are bunk...
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No, they're not bullshit. I've seen people do it with my own eyes. I was high as a kite off two pills, and this zombie in the corner had eaten 15 of them. They were clean strong pills.

Most people take drugs to excess, a minority take them to great excess, Es are popular so logic concludes that some people will take E to large excess.

I once took 1.5g of MDMA crystal in a night (not something I wish to repeat).


I've bought pills about 10 times, every time they were clean and most of the time they were strong. Irishman here.
 
Deathrow558 said:
Admittedly I've taken more pills than I need to. When you've got them with you and you're already fucked and they cost less than a pint of beer you just say "fuck it".

You do, of course, regret it the next morning :D
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lol.. Yea, I find myself with a certain amount in my possession.. & then setting a cutoff point.. then by the end of the nite they are all gone.. haha.

Luckily the next morning wasn't bad at all.
 
<MINDETERGENT> said:
the LD-50 for mda is around 3300 mg for a 60+ kilo person so ...
if you take 12 pills which are 280mg each you reach that level at which 50% die
so...all these stories about dickheads taking 20+ pills is bullshit unless they are bunk...
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Haha, a pill containing 280mg of MDA?

I FUCKING WISH!!!
 
Retrospect said:
lol.. Yea, I find myself with a certain amount in my possession.. & then setting a cutoff point.. then by the end of the nite they are all gone.. haha.
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I used to do that too. I'd say "right, no more than 4 but I'll take a few for my friend and a couple in case I lose a few" and before you know it it's 3am and you've swallowed the lot 8)
 
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