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The GOD of LSD

instinct said:
Not to derail the thread, but all this talk of purity has me wondering, surely after you reach a certain level of purity it becomes irrelevant?

Say you've got something that's 95% pure LSD. Then next to it you've got 98.5% pure, and next to it you've got 99.9% pure.... I mean, really, _honestly_ could you even tell the difference in the trip?
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Sure this is hard to prove or disprove about the effects of different purity on the mind.

Again I've taken that Orange Sunshine barrel a few times in 1970 in San Fransisco California. I've taken roughly 300 doses to date of many other batches and nothing to date has ever taken me to where Orange Sunshine took me.

I've had many great trips but nothing produced OS like awareness
everything else was darn close to each other very few came close. Taking 200, 300, 500 etc... is my preferred dose once i guesstimate what i have after a test trip. (f LSD was regulated no one would have to guesstimate any more)

I t was more vivid more auditory there was Synesthesia! i remember even seeing musical notes differently colored, floating out of the stereo as the music was playing on KSJO radio.

I can hope to stumble across a tested dose of LSD produced today that is as pure to compare what i remember. (Blessed or not)

Also that LSD was said to be blessed or given an affirmation of such positive influence that who ever took it would experience a wonderfully enlightening trip from it.

And
I did not know anything about LSD, how its made and the stories and rumors like i been reading on theses forums. So my mind was uncontaminated and was extremely happy in those times like i m now.

Namaste
 
Interesting Toltec... I've never really tried acid so I'm not talking from an experience point of view, but could it be that when you and others say that they've had the 'best' acid of their life that it could have actually been ALD-52? I've read about it and apparently if you can get it before it degrades to LSD-25, it's like LSD but better, with less side effects... anyway, impossible to tell from subjective experience of course, but would be interesting to hear some thoughts on the subject
 
hey bros, if you didnt know, that neurosoup girl and her boyfriend were the ones who ratted out pickard. that slutty bitch, cause they got her with some bud and the kidnapping and shit. i wanna kick the shit outta her, she has afucking video for every goddamn drug and shes a fucking idiot.
 
LSDMDMA&8503068 said:
hey bros, if you didnt know, that neurosoup girl and her boyfriend were the ones who ratted out pickard. that slutty bitch, cause they got her with some bud and the kidnapping and shit. i wanna kick the shit outta her, she has afucking video for every goddamn drug and shes a fucking idiot.
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yes, she wrote a book about the whole ordeal.
Something id actually like to read but dont want to put money in her pockets.
 
Something must be very, very wrong with the American judicial system. Pickard got a harsher sentence for producing some LSD than Skinner did for kidnapping and violently torturing an innocent man.

That really makes me angry...
 
baaah. Her book is terribly written and doesnt really tell you much of anything. Def not worth spending money on. It basically tells you (in high school vernacular) what the interweb can share much more effectively, and then you can spare her awful narrative. Has trip reports on such "exotic" substances as 2c-I and mescaline. I felt real gross after reading it, having paid actual money-dollars for it. Baaaah.
 
Everytime i hear about the Pickard case it really fucks with me. Who would you rather have on the street, some idiots who are willing to condone/ignore/conduct torture or a Harvard graduate who just happens to produce a lot of LSD? Its just so disgusting.

And if someone wanted to procure the aforementioned book without paying the author, I suppose buying a used copy would work
 
That fucking bitch, I always hated her videos now I have a more legit reason to flame her. Shows you how fucked up the law is. I still believe in the Marxist view that drugs such as LSD are illegal solely because the public would open their eyes to the horror of capitalism.

A colourful theory but I like it.
 
Seventeen said:
Wow, that Pickard guy really did produce a helluva lot.

I'm d/ling the documentary and streaming the one Shambles posted. both look pretty good watches - cheers guys.
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I highly doubt Pickard produced 90%. I'd think a lot of other chemists and possibly distributors decided to stop for a while until the heat died down. But for the older family chemists, their distribution system was already falling apart to shit beforehand, and a pause in operation would've just made whatever was left of it almost completely disintegrate. Then some new fucks came in to (partially) fill in the void and jacked up the prices.

instink said:
Interesting Toltec... I've never really tried acid so I'm not talking from an experience point of view, but could it be that when you and others say that they've had the 'best' acid of their life that it could have actually been ALD-52? I've read about it and apparently if you can get it before it degrades to LSD-25, it's like LSD but better, with less side effects... anyway, impossible to tell from subjective experience of course, but would be interesting to hear some thoughts on the subject
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Owsley had said that it would've been impractical to produce ALD-52 since it's so sensitive to humidity/moisture.
 
It wouldn't matter much anyway, I believe, seeing how ALD-52 is easily hydrolyzed to LSD in vitro. This process would probably be even faster in vivo.

any major dude said:
Everytime i hear about the Pickard case it really fucks with me. Who would you rather have on the street, some idiots who are willing to condone/ignore/conduct torture or a Harvard graduate who just happens to produce a lot of LSD? Its just so disgusting.
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Yeah, exactly how I feel about it.
 
Wow I never knew that neurocunt girl on youtube was the one who snitched....fuck snitches
 
Special_Monster said:
Shows you how fucked up the law is. I still believe in the Marxist view that drugs such as LSD are illegal solely because the public would open their eyes to the horror of capitalism.

A colourful theory but I like it.
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This is truth, not a colorful theory IMO. No doubt our self-serving, socially toxic government would be in deep trouble if most citizens started taking psychedelics. The delicate system of the lies, deceit, and toxic programming that secures the thrones for those in power would come crashing down in the midst of opened 'third eyes'. The fact that LSD distribution was punished more heavily than kidnapping and torture further confirms that government puts themselves before citizens, even tortured ones.
 
^ I'm missing your line of reasoning there :) ... distribution of drugs is very heavily punished ---> therefore our government puts themselves before citizens.

I don't think our government is greedy, I think people are greedy, which is, seemingly, the cause of all our societal problems. Drugs have little to do with it, I think. I'd guess the action of making LSD illegal had more to do with the realization that heroin (or opiates in general) is extremely addictive and destructive-- heroin was made illegal in the 30s, and drugs have had, scientifically, a bad connotation ever since.
 
hoopyfrood said:
^ I'm missing your line of reasoning there :) ... distribution of drugs is very heavily punished ---> therefore our government puts themselves before citizens.

I don't think our government is greedy, I think people are greedy, which is, seemingly, the cause of all our societal problems. Drugs have little to do with it, I think. I'd guess the action of making LSD illegal had more to do with the realization that heroin (or opiates in general) is extremely addictive and destructive-- heroin was made illegal in the 30s, and drugs have had, scientifically, a bad connotation ever since.
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Yes, you are somewhat missing it. It's more like:

our government puts themselves before citizens ---> therefore the distribution of drugs is very heavily punished.

When I say government is selfish in this context, I mean that they deny the natural human-right of citizens to exploring their OWN consciousness on their OWN terms, because certain drugs have the potential to influence the culture and programming of users in a way that is threatening to the acceptance of our flawed capitalist system. It is the people in power (government) who DEPEND on people accepting their societal system and behaving according to certain standards in order to remain in power (avoid revolt).

This equates to many, many people being locked in cages for something that victimizes no one. And I don't agree that heroin gave drugs in general a bad name. If this were the case, alcohol would be illegal. It's severely addictive like heroin, more anti-social, and way more physically damaging than heroin. Why is alcohol legal? It has no potential for opening the eyes its users, they just become more stupid and sedated. This is no threat to the people in power, it actually helps them.

And a side note: the initial illegality of many popular narcotics had more to do with racism/prejudism than the properties of those drugs. For example, cocaine was associated with 'deviant behavior' of blacks. Opium was associated with Asians. LSD was associated with liberal non-conformists, etc. I just recently saw a history channel documentary on these facts.
 
Say you've got something that's 95% pure LSD. Then next to it you've got 98.5% pure, and next to it you've got 99.9% pure.... I mean, really, _honestly_ could you even tell the difference in the trip?
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It's not so much about how much of it is acid as it is about how much of it isn't. For example, you've got your 95% pure sample A and your 99.9% pure sample B. Now, sample B only has about 1/20 more LSD than sample A at any given weight, which is pretty insignificant. However, sample A has got 50x as much stuff that isn't LSD (and is probably nasty shit like unreacted ergotamine) as sample B.
 
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