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The GBL Megathread

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Thanks Shambles =D

The feeling of depression has lifted and it feels great just being myself again. I can now definitely emphasise with those that say they experience crippling depression after MDMA or other substances. I've never really felt like that after doing any substance before. It was really strange, my mind was constantly in a loop of negative thoughts. My future seemed so bleak, cold and empty. Nothing gave me any hope nor happiness. Listening to music was like just listening to sounds rather than listening to music...if that makes any sense!?

What's really odd though is that it seems that nobody seemed to have experienced anything like this from GHB/GBL before...in terms of feeling so shit from just having one dose. Only one of my mates uses G but I've looked on Bluelight and on Google and can't see anything.

I was hoping my GBL career would last a little longer than 15ml, but ah well, it was fun whilst it lasted! It was very fun after Methylone the one time I tried it and was hoping to give it a go after heavy speed/coke sessions but I guess there's always benzos/weed :p
 
^ Your decision entirely of course, Ascii, but personally I would maybe just have a break from the G for a few weeks and give it another go if you have previously enjoyed it. Of course, it's not for everyone so if the rebound isn't worth it for you then not using it anymore is probably a very wise idea :).
 
Shambles said:
I would have thought that some kind of vitamin or other supplement could help
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I find L-Glutamine helps.

I don't get a come down as such after gbl, but I do get 'can't be bothered' days when everything's an effort. L-Glutamine gives me a bit of oomph and I actually feel quite enthusiastic - even on a Tuesday!
 
^ I might look into that actually. I'm kind of at the halfway point with GBL come down/withdrawals. It's much more noticable than it was a few months back when I had no problems at all. A bit of oomph is mainly what I use G for during the day - perks me up in the morning and gets me going. Unfortunately, I find that if I don't keep dosing all day after that then I get sleepy and achey and really can't be arsed with it. This is not good, so other providers of oomph are of interest to me :).
 
Hey, I know this sounds kinda crazy but is it possible that I'm getting withdrawals from GBL? I've only ever dosed about 10 times, maximum of 15. I've had no GBL since Sunday evening and before that hadn't had any since the morning of Thursday 23rd October (to aid a hangover.) After the feelings of depression lifted yesterday evening, I felt a little run down and achey but nothing particularly bad, like I had mild flu but without a lot of the symptoms.

Last night I decided to get an early night and tried to get some sleep at midnight. There was no way to get to sleep, my legs/shoulders were twitching all over the place and my back would arch at random :( This went along with sweat pouring out of me. This was all pretty unpleasant but the worst part was my heart beat. My heart was pumping as if I had been sprinting but it would not stop or slow down even when I tried breathing exercises. When I stood up to go for a piss, I got to the bathroom and my heart rate increased even further (I didn't even realise my heart would pump that fast.) My vision went blurry then everything went black. I stumbled around blindly for a few seconds then the next thing I knew, I woke up on the floor. I had no idea how long I had been there for or what the fuck was going on. I climbed back to bed where I sort of fell into this weird trance/half-sleep type thing until around for a few hours. Was this just like an automatic shut-off as my heart was going so fast or what? :(

When I woke up, I felt more of the same. Speeding heart rate, legs were dancing away and I was sweating buckets. I kept thinking this can't be GBL withdrawals!?!?! I must be ill... This went along with feelings of confusion, loneliness and general yuk! I drank the remainder of a bottle of whiskey lying around. After about 20 minutes, the alcohol began to take effect. It felt like bliss. I stopped twitching and my heart rate fell back to normal levels. I got a good three hours sleep which was heavenly :) This is the most I've ever appreciated alcohol!

Today, I'm feeling a little better, still jittery and feeling wired yet sleepy at the same time. I've had something to eat and drunk a few beers, which helps a lot :) (There's an offer on for 10 cans of fosters for £5 from Somerfields, bargain!) What shocked me was when I looked in the mirror this morning, my pupils were enormous. Looks like I just necked a ton of pills 8o I searched for this and Treacle apparently you had the same thing, how long did this last? It's really quite noticeable...:!

Are Phenibut/L-Glutamine available from high street stores or only on the internet? How is it possible to go into G wds from such a short history of use? :( Thanks for your help everyone, none of my mates know much (anything :p) about GBL so it's great having Bluelight :)
 
Just got my 250ml bottle today and it should last until well after Christmas (probably a lot longer, 250ml generally lasts about 6 months min) - depends upon how much overdoing the stims I do. I find that I only enjoy it when coming down off stims; other than that it just knocks me out
 
Ascii: It would be unusual to be experiencing withdrawal symptoms after so short a time and with such low levels of use. But what you describe sounds very much like G withdrawals to me. I have no idea why this may be, but if it is then it is, I guess.

Assuming it is some kind of withdrawal effect, from what I know it doesn't last too long - not that that's much of a comfort at the time, of course - but can be absolutely horrific. As short-term relief, I would probably also use alcohol or a benzo (diazepam should help) but this is obviously a short-term patch-up just for the acute stages - should be no more than a week at most.

I would advise not using phenibut to counteract the unpleasant effects you are having as it can cause the same unpleasant effects only worse when you stop using it. L-Glutamine I know less about, but would think that it's probably a better option than phenibut.

If I were you, I'd try to ride it out as best I could - if it means spending a couple of days in a drunken haze then that is what I would do. That's not to say it's necessarily a very good idea, but it was I would do nevertheless. If you have access to benzos, then a small amount (don't go mad with them cos it will only get messy - expecially with booze) should help to ease the anxiety and twitching and keep your heartrate down to more comfortable levels.

Good luck with it, Ascii - I don't think I've ever heard of somebody hitting the withdrawal stage so quickly so you seem to have been incredibly unlucky there. But if it doesn't agree with you to that extent, then you are probably doing the right thing. You may feel crappy and find it impossible to sleep for a couple of days, but it will be over before you know it :).
 
Thanks for the help and support Shambles, it really means a lot. I had read quite a bit about GBL and the dangers of addiction but I thought that my use was perfectly safe, I avoided 24/7 dosing and left a few days between dosing. I cannot find anyone who seems to have hit withdrawals so quick, if anyone has hit G wds from such little use, please could you post your experience.

I'll give Phenibut a miss then and if I see any L-Glutamine; I'll be sure to give it a try. Drinking beer is definitely helping loads but weirdly enough it feels like I'm on GBL now rather than alcohol which is weird! I've no access to vallies or any other benzos which would be nice but I'm not feeling too bad :) I feel very tired yet I am unable to sleep but it's not too unpleasant. I prefer this feeling of aching tiredness over the horrible looping feelings of depression/bleakness I had yesterday. My heart rate isn't anywhere near so high now, perhaps more on the level you would expect after a low dose of whizz.

I don't really want to go into the outside world and meet up with people as my pupils are still of saucer-ish proportions and my limbs keep twitching which makes me look a little crazy, haha! I'm going to tell people I'm ill with flu or a fever..something like that! I think I'll try to lie down and watch a few films :)

Thanks again and I'll keep you posted as I seem to be a bit of a unique case! Wish it was over something else though lol. Has anyone any ideas (medically?) of why I should have hit wds so quick? Hopefully I'll just be able to stick to a few beers every couple of hours until this is all over.
 
Sorry to hear you're having a bad time Ascii.

Just out of interest, could you list your doses? ie. time apart re-dosing, days between doses etc etc
 
The symptoms definitely sound like g withdrawal, strange you have gotten it from such limited use as others have said.

Hope you are feeling better soon
 
That sounds harsh ascii!

I use G about twice a week on average, usually no more than 3.5 ml spread across 2 doses and have been able to do so for months with out any problems. I find if I use more than 4ml in one night I end up getting a rebound and not being able to sleep tho, which is not pleasant.
 
GHB has slower onset/absorbstion & therefore more forgiving dosage range. I reckon it superior to GBL as you're less likely to nod out thus maximising fun & not maximising dozing off.

Yes it can make you nod out.
 
cheers bud i appreciate it

so how long does ghb powder last if stored away in a box under the bed?away from the sun/heat?
 
L-Glutamine is cheaper if you buy powder rather than tablets and also a lot cheaper bought online than in a health food shop.
 
Cheers Avextracker, Aros2k and WarmRushes.

Avextracker, my dosage and usage of GBL went a little like this...

15th Oct - Tried 1.2ml of GBL in the evening, on an empty stomach. Felt relaxed but a little nauseous no euphoria present, effects lasted around 90 minutes. Got the munchies, ate an epic amount of pizza! This was the only time I ever got the munchies from GBL. Did some work, went to bed about 4 hours later.

17th Oct - Did 1.4ml of GBL in the evening, watched some TV. Slight euphoria present, enjoyable. Effects again lasted about 90 mins. Redosed 1.2ml (gelcaps) with some Methylone in a club (Fabio was playing %)) at around 1am. Felt very floaty but slightly nauseous which I felt took something away from the Methylone experience. About 5 hours later, got home at 7am, myself and a friend did 1.2ml of GBL and smoked a big fat joint. Felt extremely euphoric and induced strong feelings of empathy whilst watching Human Traffic and chatting away about...well...codshit ;) Felt at peace with the world. My best GBL exp.

19th Oct - Mixed 1.4ml of GBL with 30 Liberty caps. Very fun and introspective. Lay on my bed thinking about life, meaning and the universe. Tingling all over felt fantastic! Next day, I feel how I normally do after shrooms; thoughful =D

21st Oct - Woke up at around 2pm with a banging hangover :! Dosed 1.3ml GBL every 2 hours, 5 times and watched a lot of peep show %) Went to sleep after my 5th dose, woke up after about 2 hours; felt alone. Physically, felt dizzy and achy. Was able to sleep after an hour or so. In the morning, I felt a little hungover but mostly okay. Looking back this was probably a good sign to cease use... At the time, I thought I had maybe caned it a little too hard and to do less next time.

23rd Oct - Woke up again after another heavy night. Not feeling too good, dosed 1.6ml of GBL. Dose was a little higher than usual and felt fairly dizzy. Fell into G induced sleep for an hour or so. Woke up with a strong urge to do more GBL, resisted the urge and tried to go about my daily activities. Felt a definite lack of motivation for the rest of the day. Kept thinking about my path in life, negative thoughts etc. Everything seemed so futile. Joints felt achy and it took around two hours to get to sleep (as oppose to the usual of less than 5 mins!) My calf muscles ached, well they usually do after GBL but even more than usual. On Friday, felt nauseous and weirdly stimulated. Not the "I could do anything" type stimulation like from base but jittery like from too much caffeine.

26th Oct - Did about 1.5ml of GBL at around 2am (technically Monday morning :p) Went into G induced sleep after watching Keith Lemon's World Tour (highly recommended=D) Woke up (normal GBL wake-up) about 1-2 hours later after a strange dream where I was stabbed with a hypodermic needle in the leg by a homeless woman after I accidentally stepped on her foot! Until writing this I never though about it that it could represent addiction but that now seems pretty obvious...

(I now repeat little bits of what I said in my last few posts but go into more detail) :)
27th Oct- Woke up feeling empty. Looking in the mirror wasn't really like looking at myself, just another person staring back. Everything felt wrong and I felt so cold and lonely but was surrounded by friends. My negative thoughts spiraled and enveloped everything. I felt like I was going crazy and nothing would be good again. Thoughts had a looping pattern like whilst on shrooms. This was worse than any come-down or difficult experience I've had on psychedelics. It was like an inverted MDMA: everything and everyone was cold and numb. I felt awake yet sleepy at the same time, couldn't sleep. Posted on Bluelight, the evening progressed and I felt calmer. What came next though was easily the worst nights of my life! I searched on the internet to try to find what was happening to me. I wouldn't let myself believe it was the GBL that was doing this, it seemed too unlikely. Nobody got withdrawls from GBL anywhere near this quick... It was as though I was tricking myself...With hindsight; it was obvious I was going through withdrawals. (Always is with hindsight I guess! 8) )

At times, I was pretty sure I was having some sort of mental break-down, so much confusion and frustration. The GBL sitting in my cupboard seemed so tempting, I could just knock myself into deep nothingness..be out of this cycle of negativity. I knew though that I would just wake up a few hours later needing more to get back to sleep. I woke up after a few hours of restless sleep (this was after feinting... wish my bathroom was carpeted lol) I smoked a tiny bit of weed I had; at first my mind felt soothed but my thoughts changed, it was almost as though I was tripping. Shadows seemed sinister, colours seemed so washed out and pasty. Weed had never felt like this to me before...probably was a bad idea to do it :p My mind raced like never before. Thoughts raced through my mind. It was similar to doing loads of speed and weed in terms of the way my thoughts went through my head so fast. They were all so negative. I thought about poverty, hate and unhappiness. I yearned to be unconscious. I suddenly remember the bottle of whiskey I had...what a relief... I gulped it down, my mind stopped racing and I slipped into what felt like the best sleep of my life!

28th Oct - Woke up after three hours of sleep, feeling achy and flu like. My mind and my heart had stopped racing. The world seemed bleak but with a slight glimmer of hope :) I've spent all day drinking beer and feel massively better now. My eyes are no longer dilated and I can talk to people again. I'm hoping I'm going to be able to get some sleep tonight...

I've never been through any sort of WDs before and naively thought that:
a. I would never get addicted to G in the first place.
b. WDs would only leave me feeling flu-like, I didn't think about the mental aspect of the experience, which was easily the worse part for me. Though the insane heart rate and my legs flying about all the time was something I'm in no rush to go through again, it was the thoughts of despair and sadness that really got to me.

GBL, I think, is a very strange drug. At first it seemed so empathetic and euphoric. After my last few doses though, it didn't feel anywhere near the same. Much more like alcohol (yawn ;))

Massive thanks to Shambles and everyone that helped me out :) Thanks for the advise Valkyrie, I got a GBL using mate and I'll tell him about L-Glutamine.

EDIT: Ah, thought the WDs had almost gone... I didn't have a beer over the last 4 hours and I'm beginning to sober up. I can feel the weird jittery stimulation returning along with my joints, muscles especially my calf muscles aching. On the bright side, they're nothing on what I felt yesterday evening/this morning and I think I'll be able to get some sleep, possibly alcohol induced though :p Hopefully, as I used so little GBL to get withdrawals, they won't last very long...Otherwise, I'm going to have one hell of a hangover lol! I can't imagine going through this without alcohol or another depressant at hand.
 
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yes the mental aspects are the worst part, a great view into g withdrawal there, definitely feel for you!

need to have some days off soon been using since fri dont wanna experience that in life again as well as just his text :p
 
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