The Future of ADD

[ebola?]

Prevention is, obviously, a lot more effective and pleasant than ad hoc moderation of garbage posts. So how can we preclude things like baseless molecular speculation ("Whatever it is, stick a methylene-dioxy on it!!" ), basic drug questions, and vendor hype when the culprits likely don't read our guidelines (this isn't sanctimony; I didn't read the guidelines prior to becoming a moderator)?

ebola

 

[Hyperthesis]

What interview? I must have missed this. :/

Hammilton must be speaking about one of these, probably the first one:

http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n2/htdocs/interview-with-ketamine-chemist-704.php?page=1

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704763904575550200845267526.html

 

[vecktor]

+1 Not sure either

not clever....
http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n2/htdocs/interview-with-ketamine-chemist-704.php?page=1

I am not saying who it is but it is pretty obvious. on the one hand I could say but on the other hand I won't.... because I have that luxury.


V

 

[Wizzle]

As mentioned in this thread,
One big problem we're having is that a lot of the smarter members here have been apparently providing free consulting work to marginally (or completely) illegal companies who would like to make lots of research chemicals to sell to people to get high on. And, basically, if a pharmaceutical company were to ask the same things of us, they would also give us thousands or tens of thousands of dollars while introducing new drugs to the public (with probably horrible side effects). This is multiplied by the fact that these drugs tend to create more health problems than the solve, compared to real pharmaceuticals.

I don't know if there's an easy answer to this aside from sticking to low abuse drug class discussions like psychedelics and... er, psychedelics, and otherwise harm reduction. Meanwhile, less well informed people have been flooding the forum with generally terrible ideas of new drugs to make, which is also a bad thing if companies start to pick up on those.

Not sure there's an easy answer to fixing this!

I get what you're saying. But who knows what the hell the (stimulant)RC dealers will come up with if theres no bluelight to at least tell them which ideas are especially retarded. Just saying it works both ways.

I do think that the forum needs to be more proactive at telling people what is not advanced. To be honest, I am in no way a true specialist on a chem graduate level but I love to learn on this forum, I do not make stupid non-advanced threads though and if I do please tell me.

People tend to post a lot of basic stuff here just to be sure there will be someone able to answer it. Maybe they should be pissed on a little more.

 

[Pegasus]

not clever....
http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n2/htdocs/interview-with-ketamine-chemist-704.php?page=1

I am not saying who it is but it is pretty obvious. on the one hand I could say but on the other hand I won't.... because I have that luxury.


V

I think anyone who hangs out enough recognizes the story right away...

 

[nuke]

I get what you're saying. But who knows what the hell the (stimulant)RC dealers will come up with if theres no bluelight to at least tell them which ideas are especially retarded. Just saying it works both ways.

I do think that the forum needs to be more proactive at telling people what is not advanced. To be honest, I am in no way a true specialist on a chem graduate level but I love to learn on this forum, I do not make stupid non-advanced threads though and if I do please tell me.

People tend to post a lot of basic stuff here just to be sure there will be someone able to answer it. Maybe they should be pissed on a little more.

It'd be nice if we could all provide free consultation services, but doing this won't pay my rent or my car off... At the end of the day I think it's a question of time for most of us, and many of us could be actively contributing to other arguably more important problems like treatment of malaria and development of new antibiotics.

 

[Wizzle]

If you want to make money you can do the same thing mister x in the viceland article did.

To get back on topic.. Yes, I do think you should start killing all the threads that do not pertain to data with scientific integrity (either their own or from the literature) and to try to elevate the general intelligence of ADD through that route. I kind of lost the issue reading the thread last time. Discussing new exciting recreational chems is however a part of ADD imo.

Would you want to discuss new antibiotics on ADD?

 

[23536]

Would you want to discuss new antibiotics on ADD?

funny you should mention that. Augmentin has been discussed as an aphrodesiac on this very forum.

 

[Hammilton]

I get what you're saying. But who knows what the hell the (stimulant)RC dealers will come up with if theres no bluelight to at least tell them which ideas are especially retarded. Just saying it works both ways.

They're pumping out untested shit marketed as other untested shit as it is. They don't run their ideas by us first. All we can do is tell people to avoid X, and that only happens after people have dangerous experiences with it. People like to contort harm reduction to whatever retarded form they want it, so that virtually anything can be called harm reduction. On the balance, this hurts far more people than it helps.

I'd like to see numbers, but I'm willing to bet that on a dose sold / person injured or dead ratio, the R/C industry has been worse than the more general drug market for at least the past two, probably 3, years.

This place gets it right so frequently because it's a large group of people, and the wheat gets separated from the chaff rapidly. Wisdom of the crowd and that. Having someone like Haribo1 making decisions about which drugs to market is more than a little scary.