The "fuck it" cycle

silverfucked said:
If you dont need it, you dont need it..But alot of those sides come from test aromatizing, so I think it was a valid question..

The milk thistle thing, I have yet to read anything saying its ineffective..It's your body to do with what you want, but I'm just having a hard time seeing the point unless you compete. Two orals ontop of injectables just because fuck it just seems like elevated enzymes for nothing to me..ANd ontop of this, you just said you had a mental breakdown, but your gonna crank up your e2s without an AI, ontop of the swings of being in a mega anabolic state followed by a hard hard shutdown.Like I said though, you gotta do you..

On a side note, is there anything out there that is like 100% proven to reduce liver damage?
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As previously mentioned TUDCA can work well for liver protection...

While it will help protect your liver, the active component in Milk Thistle effectively reduces nuclear androgen receptor levels and down-regulates several androgen-regulated genes primarily by inhibiting the transactivation activity of the AR, and can also inhibit nuclear localisation of the androgen receptor. Milk Thistle will also have an inhibitory effect on the insulin-like growth factor receptor-mediated signaling pathway. All in all, there seems to be a reasonable expectation that this stuff is anti-anabolic. It's a real loser to include during a cycle. A much better alternative is Prunella Vulgaris, which has been shown to protect liver cells and activate the Aryl hydrocarbon receptor, thereby allowing it to work as an anti-oestrogen as well. As long as you're going to take oral steroids, you may as well take a liver protector that isn't going to hinder your gains.

Although it's written by the sometimes less than credible Anthony Roberts, here's an interesting piece on Milk Thistle:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=126006403
 
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