Misc The "Every Chemical" Theory.

[JasperTheReckless]

I wasn't sure where to post; so here goes.

I am developing a theory that every chemical that enters our body, has effects, physically, psychologically; but in different ratios.

Ex. a) LSD -> Vastly Psychological, less physical
b) No2 -> Psychological, very physical
c) Now the interesting example: Carcinogenic Vapors, pollution; Not noticeably psychological, physically toxic.

What if all the poisons, toxins, chemicals in food, water, in out soaps and clothing, all add up to effects we can't identify individually? Not only physically toxic say, but psychologically negative as well? Or, however unlikely, the rare combination adds up to beneficial effects? (Though in all reality, heavily outweighed by toxins)

It's not a finished thought, but I can see what i'm trying to get to, maybe some of you have some input?


and if this is in the wrong place, my bad; can a mod move it?

 

[TouchN' Stuff Blvd]

Banned

 

[JasperTheReckless]

Banned

Huh?

 

[THC2LSD]

b) No2 -> Psychological, very physical

Nitrogen dioxide or NO2 would be entirely physical because it's psychologically inactive but turns to nitric acid in water.

I think the word theory is way misused, like for creationism, birtherism, trutherism, the NWO/whatever conspiracy. See the scientific method.

Now I've had similar speculations such as yours, but do you have anything support the collective lifetime synergistically toxicity but rarely beneificial hypothesis?

 

[Treefa]

yea i often wonder about all these chemicals that make their way into our food, flouride in public water, etc...
Makes me wonder if the ol big brother aint up to sumthin...using the unsuspecting masses as their sheep

 

[Synaptic Gap]

yea i often wonder about all these chemicals that make their way into our food, flouride in public water, etc...
Makes me wonder if the ol big brother aint up to sumthin...using the unsuspecting masses as their sheep

I work for big brother...i drop cid in the public water supply all the time

 

[revolve]

every chemical? are you serious? there are biologically inert chemicals.

if we're being serious here, then every single piece of matter is a chemical - are you talking about drugs or chemicals?

 

[sekio]

If all of these "normally inactive" chemicals actually do pose an effect, how do you plan to test your theory? Have someone live in a bubble for their whole life? Even then N=1 and the study wouldn't tell you very much.

A queer thought to consider is that sometimes small amounts of nuclear radiation or genotoxins can actually help extend life by activating DNA repair mechanims. Perhaps removing all of the environmental toxins wouldn't be so good for us.

 

[JasperTheReckless]

I'm not saying this in a way that would allow us to change it, or anything; it's just an idea for my mind to digest, and I wanted some other's views on things.

 

[Treefa]

i wish..no its not that simple though i don't think they "drug" us so to speak..more like perhaps one day some new disease or illness will spawn out of the vast coctail of chemicals or toxins we take in..just a paranoid theory of mine.

 

[revolve]

If all of these "normally inactive" chemicals actually do pose an effect, how do you plan to test your theory? Have someone live in a bubble for their whole life? Even then N=1 and the study wouldn't tell you very much.

A queer thought to consider is that sometimes small amounts of nuclear radiation or genotoxins can actually help extend life by activating DNA repair mechanims. Perhaps removing all of the environmental toxins wouldn't be so good for us.

At the risk of sounding ignorant, can you please tell me what exactly a "queer thought" is? I'm sure there's legitimate meaning behing the phrase but i'd be hesitant to use it due to the connotations associate with that word, lol.

 

[Synaptic Gap]

queer
   [kweer] Show IPA adjective, queer·er, queer·est, verb, noun

adjective
1.
strange or odd from a conventional viewpoint; unusually different; singular: a queer notion of justice.

2.
of a questionable nature or character; suspicious; shady: Something queer about the language of the prospectus kept investors away.

3.
not feeling physically right or well; giddy, faint, or qualmish: to feel queer.

4.
mentally unbalanced or deranged.

5.
Slang: Disparaging and Offensive .
a.
homosexual.

b.
effeminate; unmanly.

 

[TheAzo]

I am developing a theory that every chemical that enters our body, has effects, physically, psychologically

Reduced to it's core, this claim is trivial. If a chemical is entering our body, it will have an effect. Even if it's something we eat that's totally inert, it will effect the behavior of our GI tract as it passes through. If we absorb and excrete it unchanged, even if it doesn't do anything while it's in the bloodstream, it's occupying transport proteins that are absorbing it and then dumping it into the urine - which might matter if you were to eat enough of it. As we get into the realm of chemicals that actually have a non-zero binding affinity to the many receptors throughout our body, things get still more complicated. It's the magnitude and nature of the effects that matter. I don't think anyone would argue that ingestion of various trace amounts of chemicals doesn't have the potential to have significant health effects, nor that the cumulative effect of the many chemicals we consume in trace amounts may be significant. Some of the more toxic trace contaminants have received a fair amount of study (bisphenol A? Endocrine disrupters?).