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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V2

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I've been scanning the posts on EPH in this thread, just out of curiosity. It's interesting how people have incredibly varied reactions to this RC. Some people love it, some people hate it. Considering we all have somewhat unique pharmacokinetic profiles, I guess it shouldn't be much of a surprise.

So here's what I've deduced after scanning 18+ pages of the EPH thread:

1. EPH used to be quite rare in the RC community but now it's very common.

2. There are two "versions": the crystal (HCl salt?) and the white fluffy powder version.

3. The crystal version is the one that seems to really irritate the mucous membranes when insufflating. The powder version isn't as bad.

4. Different ROA's (of course) seem to contribute to EPH's Jekyll-n-Hyde character.

examples:

a. Some people take a small amount orally and feel sketchy and anxious. Other people feel pleasantly sped up, enjoying a positive mood lift with only a minor come-down.

b. Insufflation seems to work faster, but various people report irritation of their mucous membranes.

c. Vaping EPH hits harder and faster, producing a mild but typical DARI "fuck yeah" feeling. The downside is a significantly shorter buzz (under 1 hour) and longer, more unpleasant come-down. I've read that this ROA also accentuates the "more-ish" aspect of EPH. Again, no big surprise there.

d. Plugging EPH hits quickly (in a couple minutes), producing a buzz that's similar to plugging MPH. Harsher come-down than oral ROA, though (I'm saying this from experience).

e. IV use of EPH hits VERY quickly (obviously), but effects are mixed ... some people report euphoria, some don't. I have read several reports that say IV use of EPH exacerbates the vasoconstriction. The corrosive nature of the EPH HCl salt form is probably a concern as well.

5. EPH has subjectively fewer cadiovascular side-effects compared to MPH, due to its higher affinity for dopamine vs norepinephrine. There still are CV effects to be aware of though, including raised blood pressure, heart rate, and cerebral pressure.

6. Some users report EPH + alcohol to be a good combination. Supposedly it enhances the "feel good" aspect of EPH.

Basically, to use an analogy, ethylphenidate is like methylphenidate's quirky half-brother. EPH has a strange personality that some people like, and some don't. Hell, when it comes to RC's -- we're all part of one big science experiment, aren't we?

Many people on Bluelight absolutely love MPA as a stimulant. I tried it (several times) and absolutely hated it. I honestly gave it a good try, but I thought MPA was god-awful (for several reasons) and threw it in the trash. My physiology just hated it. I couldn't find anything enjoyable about MPA at all.

But EPH? I really REALLY enjoy. I'm one of those people who has an ongoing love-affair with EPH. I use it orally, in measured daily doses not exceeding 20mg. I take 5mg here, 5mg a couple hours later. I'm careful to not use it after 600pm to avoid insomnia problems.

As a fan of methylphenidate, I find ethylphenidate feels similar to "good" Ritalin. I get a decent energy boost and mood lift that lasts several hours, but I don't feel "tweaked out". I'm more talkative, insightful, and functional at work. As long as I drink lots of fluids and eat regular meals, the comedown is negligible.

My only complaints about EPH are that it seems to produce a strange alien tinnitus in my head ... a subtle but high-pitched whine. Easy to ignore, but annoying nonetheless. I've also gotten the same thing from amphetamine, so it's just something that stims do to me, I guess.

Also, if I take too much EPH in too short a time (say 10mg within one hour) I get a little shaky, like caffeine jitters. Again, not worrisome, just annoying.

*** Stay safe, fellow Bluelighters. All the best, peace. :) ***
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Thanks for this. Saves some reading up thread.
I'm with you though re MPA vs EPH though have swung between the two. The clincher is the effect on sleep from each drug. MPA leads me to wake up middle of the night and not fall asleep (Unless I take Etizolam- which then means I'm out of it most of the following day unless I take a dose of MPA again.)

Apart from the nose thing EPH seems cleaner and less comedown. Though both are addictive and I should give these stims a break for a while
 
Apart from the nose thing EPH seems cleaner and less comedown. Though both are addictive and I should give these stims a break for a while
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MPA is much more friendly but a little more dirty. EPH is very easy to take too much of and have unwanted side effects.
 
ive noticed im taking alot more than most people, il go through a gram in a couple of days, all up the nose..
 
the fact that such a corrosive substance is also extremely moreish scares the living shit out of me.
 
the fact that such a corrosive substance is also extremely moreish scares the living shit out of me.
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I find it a good thing that it's corrosive because it makes me use it less often. But that's just my way of thinking. :)

***EDIT. It really IS quite euphoric when insufflated though. It doesn't give that desired "I'm gonna clean my whole house up" feeling like MPA does. It's just a straight 'inyourface' dopamine rush that glides and corrupts through your system and awakens your soul....***

Wtf am I talking about...? :S :D
 
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today:

250mg EPH, 12mg etizolam and weed smoked throughout a 14 hour binge.

such a good vibe man, awesome full day session.
 
lynx2051 said:
I find it a good thing that it's corrosive because it makes me use it less often. But that's just my way of thinking. :)
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that's half true, though knowing the damage doesn't stop me from causing it half the time, thus being the power of dopamine. :P
 
ROA for EPH please?


t6apb said:
today:

250mg EPH, 12mg etizolam and weed smoked throughout a 14 hour binge.

such a good vibe man, awesome full day session.
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Fluffy ETH is a pain. It is like flour - it sticks to the plastic bag, to your blades, to your weighing scale. It gets everywhere. If oral is your ROA, better with crystals.

Just noted this, regarding using magnesium to reduce jaw-clenching:

"Healthy adults should limit supplementation to 350 mg of magnesium or less per day."
see http://www.sophisticatededge.com/magnesium-overdose.html
 
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^ hahaha, no chance. My face is too pretty to get it eaten away from the inside :P
 
looking for speculation here,
what seems to be more prone to vasoconstriction? EPH or MPA?
 
looking for speculation here,
what seems to be more prone to vasoconstriction? EPH or MPA?
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Probably MPA, but when vasoconstriction becomes a concern you're more likely to panic on EPH as I find it far more anxiety inducing.

With MPA, vasoconstriction just becomes a bit irritating.
 
yeah i noticed EPH is more of an anxious compound than MPA, and more people complain about vasoconstriction than anything else about MPA, just wasn't sure.
 
I generally prefer oral ROA but sometimes it just isn't practical unless I've pre prepared. I said it elsewhere in the thread but those saline nasal sprays are miracle workers to prevent nose damage... Quick spray prior to insuffalation then another ten mins later minimises problems...
 
This might seem like a really basic question, but what methods are people using to plug EPH? I've found a little info here and in other non-EPH-related threads in which people say they dissolve the EPH in a few ml of warm water and then administer the solution with an oral syringe or enema or turkey baster or whatever, but that's the most detail I've found so far. This seems like such an awkward question, yet I feel I must ask it...

So, EPH in the butt. What is the preferred method? Also (if you're feeling generous) why is it preferred? Is there any reason I can't just shove a gelcap of EPH up there like a message in a bottle out to sea?
 
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