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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V2

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70mg oral, empty stomach. 2 hours of nice stimmy rush, bit of sweating. That was all.

No bonobo, despite having a beautiful girlfriend to have sex with. :P
 
If as all vendors claim there is no difference between the crystal and powder, when why the hell are they all totally sold out of crystal, with shelves bursting at the seams of powder that they cant shift ?
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Because vendors can cut it more easy. Once an RC becomes more popular I think the vendors get more greedy.
 
Had a really frightening panic attack last night for the first time in ages. I sniffed 25mg of ethyl, had been drinking then took 2mg of etizolam to help me sleep. Unfortunately I was still awake so I decided to smoke some MAM-2201 and UR-144 to help me relax. Then all of a sudden my heart was beating extremely fast, was getting very anxious. I was even scared of breathing in case it caused some sort of shock to my heart. I managed to control it pretty well though and thankfully it only lasted about 25 minutes. After that I fell asleep.
 
i ordered some and recieved it yesterday, i took a leap of faith as my vendor has never failed me before and bumped a line.
it seems to have the EPH trademarks (THAT FUCKING BURN, and the mild euphoria) but heres the thing,
i ordered the "powder" before, and it was small chunks of crystal, instead it looked like pure white powder, similar to methiopropamine but not as fluffy, and when i busted the small lumps with my credit card, it made a crunching sound, and not the "popping" noise you get from busting the clumps of MPA.

anyone else recieved a pure white powder of eph? did i get ripped off? or is it just a differently made batch.

and on another topic,
does anyone else get an ANNOYING stuffed nose and shoot bloody boogers or is it just me? as i know its corrosive, so its to be expected.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
If as all vendors claim there is no difference between the crystal and powder, when why the hell are they all totally sold out of crystal, with shelves bursting at the seams of powder that they cant shift ? :?
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i think most people prefer those beautiful crystals over powder any day.
i know i do. lol
 
well most good vendors will specify if it's crystal or powder

>Ethylphenidate -> better or worse than methylphenidate?
in practice or in theory?

in theory eph should be better because it affects dopamine more than norepinephrine
in practice you'll have to wait for someone who has tried both
 
Somebody asked a few posts back whether EPH had been banned in the UK.

Am I alone in finding it bizarre that EPH hasn't received more scrutiny from government, and the media, than it has? EPH's been around for quite a while now, and it's probably fair to say that it's one of the most popular RC's out there. A relatively potent stimulant which can cause the dreaded euphoria, along with anxiety and panic attacks, is considerably 'moreish', causes a significant amount of pain and bleeding when snorted, is being sold by scrupulous vendors over the lawless world wide web (posing a real risk to the moral and physical wellbeing of the nation's youth, of course)... surely there's enough there for the Mail to write an article with?

Thinking of other RC's to have been banned, and contrasting... the obvious one is 'mcat'; why was that scheduled, splashed all over the tabloids, yet EPH seems to have, so far, slipped under the radar?

Possibly because less people are using EPH? Why might this be? Less euphoric high is one answer. Could the fact that it lacks a catchy, eye grabbing, paper selling nickname, also be a factor? I've never seen it called anything other than Ethylphenidate or EPH; the latter is too clunky, the former too technical. All street drugs have dumbed down slang names, presumably because the average whacked out druggie isn't the most coherent of types. 'Ethylphenidate' is harder to remember, harder to spell, and harder to pronounce, than 'mcat' or, heaven forbid, 'meow meow'. It sounds...complicated and alien. I know I'm pushing it a bit here, but all the same I'd like to suggest that the lack of a catchy name has injured EPH's popularity.

Something else to consider - there haven't, as far as I'm aware, been any media 'outcries' over EPH use, as there were with previously sold RC's like mcat. Nothing like publicity to fuel sales, and increase use.

So, as stupid as it is, and as tangled as my point was, I'm suggesting that the difference between an RC being banned and going ignored may be influenced by something as trivial as a name. Print that teenagers are getting high on meow meow and people pay attention, because the name is attention grabbing, and easily remembered later on down the pub when you're sat lamenting the state of the nation's youth.

I dunno. Maybe I'm just high.
 
I think you have a point, stratofortress. Good to see you're thinking of the children.

It is probably uncontroversial to say that the media-legal panics are not at all rational. This isn't a matter of some centralised ruling force deciding to make some things illegal and others not based on careful research. It is hype that captures the popular imagination and is turned into legislation. And as you note, part of what makes hype easy is a catchy name.
 
lynx2051 said:
Had a really frightening panic attack last night for the first time in ages. I sniffed 25mg of ethyl, had been drinking then took 2mg of etizolam to help me sleep. Unfortunately I was still awake so I decided to smoke some MAM-2201 and UR-144 to help me relax. Then all of a sudden my heart was beating extremely fast, was getting very anxious. I was even scared of breathing in case it caused some sort of shock to my heart. I managed to control it pretty well though and thankfully it only lasted about 25 minutes. After that I fell asleep.
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simple as to what caused that one lynx the mam2201 and ur-144 glad you handled it with out a trip to the hospital :)
 
Ethylphenidate is Pretty good stuff.
Friends and I snort it and it burns to no end.
We have a mantra "Embrace it" and "Its worth it"

First bag I got of it was all crystals, now its powder.
Same stuff tho tastes and feels the same.

Not sure if the pain wakes me up more or the actual drug.
 
seeatom said:
Ethylphenidate is Pretty good stuff.
Friends and I snort it and it burns to no end.
We have a mantra "Embrace it" and "Its worth it"

First bag I got of it was all crystals, now its powder.
Same stuff tho tastes and feels the same.

Not sure if the pain wakes me up more or the actual drug.
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im glad im not the only one that recieved the powder instead of mini crystals.
but yeah, upon ingestion i realized it had the same properties. you might use the same vendor as i.
 
stratofortress said:
Somebody asked a few posts back whether EPH had been banned in the UK.

Am I alone in finding it bizarre that EPH hasn't received more scrutiny from government, and the media, than it has? EPH's been around for quite a while now, and it's probably fair to say that it's one of the most popular RC's out there. A relatively potent stimulant which can cause the dreaded euphoria, along with anxiety and panic attacks, is considerably 'moreish', causes a significant amount of pain and bleeding when snorted, is being sold by scrupulous vendors over the lawless world wide web (posing a real risk to the moral and physical wellbeing of the nation's youth, of course)... surely there's enough there for the Mail to write an article with?

Thinking of other RC's to have been banned, and contrasting... the obvious one is 'mcat'; why was that scheduled, splashed all over the tabloids, yet EPH seems to have, so far, slipped under the radar?

Possibly because less people are using EPH? Why might this be? Less euphoric high is one answer. Could the fact that it lacks a catchy, eye grabbing, paper selling nickname, also be a factor? I've never seen it called anything other than Ethylphenidate or EPH; the latter is too clunky, the former too technical. All street drugs have dumbed down slang names, presumably because the average whacked out druggie isn't the most coherent of types. 'Ethylphenidate' is harder to remember, harder to spell, and harder to pronounce, than 'mcat' or, heaven forbid, 'meow meow'. It sounds...complicated and alien. I know I'm pushing it a bit here, but all the same I'd like to suggest that the lack of a catchy name has injured EPH's popularity.

Something else to consider - there haven't, as far as I'm aware, been any media 'outcries' over EPH use, as there were with previously sold RC's like mcat. Nothing like publicity to fuel sales, and increase use.

So, as stupid as it is, and as tangled as my point was, I'm suggesting that the difference between an RC being banned and going ignored may be influenced by something as trivial as a name. Print that teenagers are getting high on meow meow and people pay attention, because the name is attention grabbing, and easily remembered later on down the pub when you're sat lamenting the state of the nation's youth.

I dunno. Maybe I'm just high.
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hit the nail on the head.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
If as all vendors claim there is no difference between the crystal and powder, when why the hell are they all totally sold out of crystal, with shelves bursting at the seams of powder that they cant shift ? :?
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As someone said before, crystal just looks nicer so people buy this over powder. I've tried them both and there is literally no difference at all.
 
+1 for STRATOFORTRESS ... I agree 100%. I don't think there's any singular reason why certain RC's get more scrutiny than others. But I think you isolated several good points: EPH doesn't have a catchy slang name (although I think read online that a few moronic vendors were selling it under the title 'legal crack') ... and who knows? So many teens are already taking methylphenidate legitimately that perhaps EPH just doesn't have the same exotic appeal as other RC's.

From my cozy omnipotent armchair, I'd also say that the government clampdowns on RC's depend on the behaviour of retailers.

Here in N. America, little attention was paid to MDPV until the whole Florida bath-salts cannibal episode. Then the hot glare of the media spotlight shone upon the RC world, and how 'bath salts' (MDPV) were being sold openly at gas stations and head shops. Things went quickly downhill from there.

I was never a huge fan of MDPV (loved the short-term rush, hated the hours-long comedown) -- but the media attention it received caused a huge cluster-fuck in the USA and Canada. Politicians yelled for emergency scheduling, journalists wagged on about the evils of 'bath salts' and 'plant food', blah blah blah. Now it's a scheduled substance, and that's that.

I am surprised that the RC community didn't receive any further media glare from that episode. Things could have gotten a lot worse. In fact, from what I can tell, there are rumblings that change is a-gonna come. In Canada, there isn't an analog law (yet) -- but the feds and customs service put pressure on the one or two remaining RC vendors that existed in 2012, and effectively put them out of business by seizing their shipments en-route. And just to make sure they had no recourse, they tied up any appeal process in endless red tape and obfuscation.

In the UK, I've heard rumours that EPH might be headed for emergency scheduling, and that the UK government is heading towards a US-style analog law. Perhaps someone could corroborate that.

All of this could be seen as part of the glare of the Eye of Mordor (government) staring ever more intently on the world of RC's.

Stay safe, everyone.
 
anyone else experience facial/eye pain after insufflation?

the nose pain goes without saying, lol.
 
as good as insufflation is, its just not worth it in the long run..

my nose is fucked. ive quit using EPH for now, been using quite regularly past couple months, decided to take a break, i would like to know what a healthy nose feels like haha

yeah i have experienced all sorts of pain around my nose, eyes, ears and mouth after having a line, even with cleaning out with salt water before and after
 
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