konshuss
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t6apb A nasal atomizer looks like this:
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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V2
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t6apb
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any ideason where to buy from, ive looked about, not really easy to find? i doubt it will not be in my town either
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>I've read about people taking much higher doses, but I always err on the low side with RC's.
no no, I totally get that (I also start low with new chems), better to start low and be a bit disappointed than start to high and get weird sides
but once you see that a low dose doesn't do much, try increasing it bit by bit
(helps keep some benzos handy for experiments like that when using stims. Just in case)
you mean the eph or the atomizer?
can't help you with the eph (no sourceing and all), but you can get a nebulizer at just about any pharmacy
ask for a localy acting nasal decongestant and when they suggest various ones take the cheapest one that comes in a nebulizer
no no, I totally get that (I also start low with new chems), better to start low and be a bit disappointed than start to high and get weird sides
but once you see that a low dose doesn't do much, try increasing it bit by bit
(helps keep some benzos handy for experiments like that when using stims. Just in case)
you mean the eph or the atomizer?
can't help you with the eph (no sourceing and all), but you can get a nebulizer at just about any pharmacy
ask for a localy acting nasal decongestant and when they suggest various ones take the cheapest one that comes in a nebulizer
t6apb
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yeah the atomizer
ahh and just empty it out? cheers!
im guessing atomizer is the wrong word to be searching for?
ahh and just empty it out? cheers!
im guessing atomizer is the wrong word to be searching for?
crazycatman
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nasal decongestant in spray form would probably be the best word (not really sure since English isn't my native tongue)
or better yet, just have them show you all the decongestants they have, one of them is bound to have a atomizer on it
than just take the cheapest one, since your going to throw away the contents either way (you can also pour them in a normal bottle of decongestant if you happen to have an empty one, I used to to the same except in reverse (buy the one with the atomizer just once and then just pour the normal ones in when it ran out. Saved a few € ))
If your looking for the exact word I can't really help you, maybe some one with English as their native language can, sorry.
or better yet, just have them show you all the decongestants they have, one of them is bound to have a atomizer on it
than just take the cheapest one, since your going to throw away the contents either way (you can also pour them in a normal bottle of decongestant if you happen to have an empty one, I used to to the same except in reverse (buy the one with the atomizer just once and then just pour the normal ones in when it ran out. Saved a few € ))
If your looking for the exact word I can't really help you, maybe some one with English as their native language can, sorry.
t6apb
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thanks alot ill have a look sometime soon 
oh i dont have scales anyway, how much roughly would be put in the bottle of EPH that is, with water?
i use salt water to clean my nostrils out before and after snorting, would the actual nasal decongestant stuff be better to use? rather than empty it might aswell get use out of it, or is it not the same sort of thing that salt water helps for?
just thought i''d add about crystal v powder, crystal goes up the nose alot easier and smoother and doesnt go straight to the back of your throat or worse lungs, the high feels alot smoother too more euphoric less jittery.
i have been using powder for the past 2 months and have just got a batch of crystal, i am impressed!
it does sting for a wee bit longer than powder, nothing too bad tho
oh i dont have scales anyway, how much roughly would be put in the bottle of EPH that is, with water?
i use salt water to clean my nostrils out before and after snorting, would the actual nasal decongestant stuff be better to use? rather than empty it might aswell get use out of it, or is it not the same sort of thing that salt water helps for?
just thought i''d add about crystal v powder, crystal goes up the nose alot easier and smoother and doesnt go straight to the back of your throat or worse lungs, the high feels alot smoother too more euphoric less jittery.
i have been using powder for the past 2 months and have just got a batch of crystal, i am impressed!
it does sting for a wee bit longer than powder, nothing too bad tho
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Somberlain
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I'm also a fan of Ethylphenidate nasal spray. I wonder if it is best to use normal water for it or if it would be better to use the same salt water that's used as nasal spray. Could that be even better (for the same reasons that make it better to use the salt water instead of just normal water as nasal spray) or would the salt water interfere with absorption or something like that?
Also: Is there an easy way to keep a solution like that "clean"? I only take low doses of Ethyphenidate and a little bit of this solution would last me 2-3 days. And, as far as i know, a self-made solution like that gets run over by bacteria in no time.
Also: Is there an easy way to keep a solution like that "clean"? I only take low doses of Ethyphenidate and a little bit of this solution would last me 2-3 days. And, as far as i know, a self-made solution like that gets run over by bacteria in no time.
t6apb
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yeah salt water, its anti septic, keep any infections at bay as im guessing this stuff rips some shit open up there, best keep it clean as poss unless you want a sinus infection
just wait about 5 mins after snorting
just wait about 5 mins after snorting
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Salt water like already said, alcohol (tho that would probably hurt), keep it in the fridge, use tap water (the chlorine isn't really that friendly to bacteria, but I don't know if it's good for the eph either), do nothing and hope for the best, ..
As long as it's just a day or two it shouldn't be that bad.
Anyway, the biggest thinng that would worry me is exactly how much are you taking with each squirt. From what I hear eph overdose without a benzo or to is quite uncomfortable.
Speaking of taking it everywhere and taking some every so often.. ever consider mixing it with some coke/water/whatever and having a drink every so often? Should make dosing easier and if you mix it with coke, I really doubt it would go bad in a few days.
As long as it's just a day or two it shouldn't be that bad.
Anyway, the biggest thinng that would worry me is exactly how much are you taking with each squirt. From what I hear eph overdose without a benzo or to is quite uncomfortable.
Speaking of taking it everywhere and taking some every so often.. ever consider mixing it with some coke/water/whatever and having a drink every so often? Should make dosing easier and if you mix it with coke, I really doubt it would go bad in a few days.
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The amount of Ethylphenidate in the solution i make is so small that overdose scenarios won't happen. If the spray you make doesn't contain much of the stuff and you wait a while before re-dosing, you will notice when you had enough long before it gets uncomfortable. But you heard right, too much of this stuff can get really, really unpleasant.
Oral dosing isn't an option for me. I tried every ROA that doesn't involve a needle, not just once but many times to see if i can get it right. But this stuff only works for me when i take it intranasally. Oral has way more unwanted side effects for me and gets uncomfortable even at really small doses without giving me any positive effects. With higher doses i get the wanted effects but the side effects become unbearable. When i snort it, i can use extremely small amounts that don't cause any unwanted side effects but give me the pleasurable mild stimulation that i aim for. This mild stimulation is the only reason i still take it.
Oral dosing isn't an option for me. I tried every ROA that doesn't involve a needle, not just once but many times to see if i can get it right. But this stuff only works for me when i take it intranasally. Oral has way more unwanted side effects for me and gets uncomfortable even at really small doses without giving me any positive effects. With higher doses i get the wanted effects but the side effects become unbearable. When i snort it, i can use extremely small amounts that don't cause any unwanted side effects but give me the pleasurable mild stimulation that i aim for. This mild stimulation is the only reason i still take it.
t6apb
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anyone stayed up without sleep on this for longer than 2 nights?
i did it last time, started tripping rather strongly, i was on benzos but shit was moving and growing and my peripheral vision was going abit whack
glad i had benzos, i was quite enjoying it, i imagine without i would of been a paranoid crazy person haha!
i did it last time, started tripping rather strongly, i was on benzos but shit was moving and growing and my peripheral vision was going abit whack
glad i had benzos, i was quite enjoying it, i imagine without i would of been a paranoid crazy person haha!
konshuss
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Regarding keeping the nasal spray ("atomizer") clean, that thought has crossed my mind as well.
Previously, I had made a nasal spray system using tap water and dissolved / filtered Ritalin tabs. I kept the spray bottle in the fridge when I wasn't using it.
Another time, I added a tiny bit of vodka to the solution, thinking that the ethyl alcohol would help keep the germs away. Well, that water + vodka mix hurt my nasal passages! Talk about a burn! Not advisable.
I think that the notoriously stable chloramine present in most cities' tapwater will keep the solution clean for a while. Like a few days, I'm guessing. Just like when you re-use a water bottle at room temperature -- after a few days the bottle can get funky. Based on that observation, we all probably don't want funky bacteria-flavoured water up our noses.
Mixing your nose spray in small batches and using only what you need is probably a best bet. Alternatively, keeping it in the fridge is also going to help.
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Like Somberlin, I found oral doses of ethylphenidate to be inconclusive. There wasn't really much to enjoy. The nasal route (with the atomizer / nasal spray) is fast, efficient, and heaps of fun. Just don't do too much, or do it too often.
A couple days ago I tried to re-visit the chemical love-in I had with ethyphendiate. I think tolerance had developed. I did many many sprays up my nose over a 4 hour period, and most of the good effects I had experienced were gone. I was left feeling quite sketchy, irritable, and full of anxiety. People around me even noticed. They asked me why I was scowling so much. I felt like a tweaked-out idiot.
In the late evening, I took a couple hits of some nice afghan 50/50 indica-sativa herb. Instantly, I felt much better. The anxiety was gone and my mood improved immensely. I fell asleep easily. Thank God for the curative powers of MJ!
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In other news, since I enjoyed moderate success with the ethlyphenidate + nasal atomizer ROA, I'm thinking of trying a similar approach with that much-maligned RC that everyone loves to hate: methiopropamine. I'll report back my findings.
Previously, I had made a nasal spray system using tap water and dissolved / filtered Ritalin tabs. I kept the spray bottle in the fridge when I wasn't using it.
Another time, I added a tiny bit of vodka to the solution, thinking that the ethyl alcohol would help keep the germs away. Well, that water + vodka mix hurt my nasal passages! Talk about a burn! Not advisable.
I think that the notoriously stable chloramine present in most cities' tapwater will keep the solution clean for a while. Like a few days, I'm guessing. Just like when you re-use a water bottle at room temperature -- after a few days the bottle can get funky. Based on that observation, we all probably don't want funky bacteria-flavoured water up our noses.
Mixing your nose spray in small batches and using only what you need is probably a best bet. Alternatively, keeping it in the fridge is also going to help.
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Like Somberlin, I found oral doses of ethylphenidate to be inconclusive. There wasn't really much to enjoy. The nasal route (with the atomizer / nasal spray) is fast, efficient, and heaps of fun. Just don't do too much, or do it too often.
A couple days ago I tried to re-visit the chemical love-in I had with ethyphendiate. I think tolerance had developed. I did many many sprays up my nose over a 4 hour period, and most of the good effects I had experienced were gone. I was left feeling quite sketchy, irritable, and full of anxiety. People around me even noticed. They asked me why I was scowling so much. I felt like a tweaked-out idiot.
In the late evening, I took a couple hits of some nice afghan 50/50 indica-sativa herb. Instantly, I felt much better. The anxiety was gone and my mood improved immensely. I fell asleep easily. Thank God for the curative powers of MJ!
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In other news, since I enjoyed moderate success with the ethlyphenidate + nasal atomizer ROA, I'm thinking of trying a similar approach with that much-maligned RC that everyone loves to hate: methiopropamine. I'll report back my findings.
crazycatman
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Never, stims or no stims, staying up for too long fucks my immune system and makes me sick (cold, sore throat, ..)
mydrugbuddy
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If as all vendors claim there is no difference between the crystal and powder, when why the hell are they all totally sold out of crystal, with shelves bursting at the seams of powder that they cant shift ? 
crazycatman
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Just checked two of my favourites - one is out of crystal like you say, the other has it.
(mods, please delete this if it's too close to sourcing)
(mods, please delete this if it's too close to sourcing)
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I hate snorting powder. After the following experience, I cannot imagine how anyone would dare or could stand sniffing this crystal shit down a cut out line.
Got myself a nasal spray (as above). Nebulisers are medical equipment, used to make breathing easier for people with lung problems. You won't be able to get a hold of one for this!
note this link regarding drops, sprays, atomisers:
http://intranasal.net/deliverytechniques/default.htm
I didn't buy an atomiser, but a simple spray - I think the atomizer somehow breaks the mist down even further, so this was my first mistake. This method is not working for me, probably because I am unwilling to continue administering sprays.
I dissolved 10mg weighed ethyl into 5ml of water put into a 30ml bottle. Most of it vanishes into the water as I mixe, but there are some small chunks that won't dissolve. I should have tried harder at crushing it finer - 2nd mistake.
Tilting my head back & applying the spray up my nose, the 4 initial sprays were marked with an unpleasant taste and a slight numbness at the back/top of my throat. Some of the water exists my nose in small drips when I right myself. Nothing happens for many minutes as I being to clean up after a party.
10 mins or so and I try a 5th spray. This has a stronger taste and slight pain, nasty taste and the soft-palette numbness/irritation again. I am surprised that this isn't working the way I hope. The results are turning out to be so gross and unpleasant, I go buy a strong coffee instead.
As I write this, I'm wondering if I should just chuck this solution & forget about ethyl for today.
Ok, I just did a 6th spray. Fuck this shit, I'm sticking with my 100mg gel-caps on an empty stomach.
Got myself a nasal spray (as above). Nebulisers are medical equipment, used to make breathing easier for people with lung problems. You won't be able to get a hold of one for this!
note this link regarding drops, sprays, atomisers:
http://intranasal.net/deliverytechniques/default.htm
I didn't buy an atomiser, but a simple spray - I think the atomizer somehow breaks the mist down even further, so this was my first mistake. This method is not working for me, probably because I am unwilling to continue administering sprays.
I dissolved 10mg weighed ethyl into 5ml of water put into a 30ml bottle. Most of it vanishes into the water as I mixe, but there are some small chunks that won't dissolve. I should have tried harder at crushing it finer - 2nd mistake.
Tilting my head back & applying the spray up my nose, the 4 initial sprays were marked with an unpleasant taste and a slight numbness at the back/top of my throat. Some of the water exists my nose in small drips when I right myself. Nothing happens for many minutes as I being to clean up after a party.
10 mins or so and I try a 5th spray. This has a stronger taste and slight pain, nasty taste and the soft-palette numbness/irritation again. I am surprised that this isn't working the way I hope. The results are turning out to be so gross and unpleasant, I go buy a strong coffee instead.
As I write this, I'm wondering if I should just chuck this solution & forget about ethyl for today.
Ok, I just did a 6th spray. Fuck this shit, I'm sticking with my 100mg gel-caps on an empty stomach.
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I seem to have gone all virtuous tonight reading other folks posts. All my research tells me is exactly what anyone would say to you about anything - everything in moderation. EPH is very moreish and Ive had more than I should have, which is really due to availability. Bought 10g as I liked it and it made financial sense and its just sitting there, but of course you find a million excuses. Its an excellent stim with alcohol. Its not so good on its own and as a work aid; sure you will feel good and think youve sat working hard for hours but actually 'sober' you'd achieve much more. Ive not had any for a month and there is no doubt I am doing much more than when I thought a quick bump will see this through. Self discipline is the key definitely, choosing especially when you have that first line. If you end up having a quick line at brekkie 'just to get going' and find yourself hitting bigger lines at 1am and watching too much porn then you probs need a review. Starting to hit benzos to come down will end in a cycle of either - chasing the high or feeling totally shit and probably quite nasty to your loved ones for a few days. Enjoy yourself but dont get lost - note to self really!
If I am being very honest I enjoy the ritual around line, burn, drip, feeling good. Thats very difficult to articulate really and very difficult to refuse.
If I am being very honest I enjoy the ritual around line, burn, drip, feeling good. Thats very difficult to articulate really and very difficult to refuse.
I've been away from here for about three months and it's funny that you should pose that question on my return. I have been doing 74-78 hours weekly for months and did a 95 just before Christmas without feeling that I'd reached my limit and find it a much easier ride than I did in the past for two reasons. 1) I can't do the 100-120mg shots that I was doing any more in fact 50 will usually suffice and 2) The hideous anxiety that I used to get on EPH for which I would do loads of etizolam and on which I would do all manner of fucked up shit is a thing of the past. In fact I get no unpleasant side effects at all. Just euphoria which about 8 weeks ago I discovered is magnified many times by the addition of electronic music for me at least. I'll post back with more detail regarding my recent exploits at some point.
I must say I take my hat off to you guys who insist on sticking this shit up your noses. I tried it twice and never intend to repeat the hideous experience. That was over six months ago and the memory still brings tears to my eyes. Bugger that for a game of soldiers.
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konshuss
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Side note: I tried a 'combo pack' (my term) yesterday of alternating oral doses of methylphenidate and ethylphenidate.
The doses weren't large, I was randomly taking 5mg of each product over the span of 6 hours. I alternated swallowing each product every 30-60 minutes. I took them with plain water. The total dosage was only about 20mg of ethyl and 20mg of methyl. BTW, the ethylphenidate was the white powder, not the crystal version. The methylphenidate was 10mg generic tablets that I am quite familiar with and have been using for a couple years now.
Notes:
1. Taking the ethylphenidate orally produced localized mild numbing on my lips and gums. Interesting.
2. The first 'alerts' of ethylphendiate were noticed very quickly, within 2-3 minutes. Perhaps some absorption occurred through the buccal membranes.
3. It might have been largely due to preconceived bias, but I honestly feel that I was able to tell the difference between taking the ethyl and the methyl. They didn't feel exactly the same.
4. The methyl felt like it had a higher, more 'dirty' CV load. Heavier, faster heart rate.
The ethyl would produce an energy 'push' in my abdomen and make me somewhat talkative for about an hour.
The methyl caused mild tinnitus and caused more of an improvement in my overall mood.
Both produced a pleasant kind of synergy -- at least for a while. I'd say there was a nice period of 2 hours where both stims were acting in tandem.
Towards the end of my 'experiment', I just started to feel a little cracked-out. The pleasant effects had subsided and I was dealing with some annoying CV stimulation (heartbeat about 25% above normal), mild tinnitus, and mild emotional irritability.
At the end of the evening I had a beer, smoked a little pot, and went straight to bed. No issues the next day.
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BTW I have to agree with what MOZZER said above: stims like ethyl / methylphenidate are somewhat deceiving. You take them THINKING that you're going to get a shit-load of stuff done, and yet I have found many times where I have just wasted hours of potentially productive time doing completely mindless crap.
Last week, case-in-point. I had a day off work. So I thought I'd take a stimulant and get lots of things done. I took some ethylphenidate orally and also nasally (with my new Atomizer toy). Horny thoughts entered my mind during one particular ethylphenidate rush. I immediately dropped my pants and wanked off to internet porn for 2 fucking hours. I felt like a freaking bonobo after it was all over. A really tweaked, stupid bonobo.
In fact, a bonobo would probably have been more productive than I was. Lolz.
The doses weren't large, I was randomly taking 5mg of each product over the span of 6 hours. I alternated swallowing each product every 30-60 minutes. I took them with plain water. The total dosage was only about 20mg of ethyl and 20mg of methyl. BTW, the ethylphenidate was the white powder, not the crystal version. The methylphenidate was 10mg generic tablets that I am quite familiar with and have been using for a couple years now.
Notes:
1. Taking the ethylphenidate orally produced localized mild numbing on my lips and gums. Interesting.
2. The first 'alerts' of ethylphendiate were noticed very quickly, within 2-3 minutes. Perhaps some absorption occurred through the buccal membranes.
3. It might have been largely due to preconceived bias, but I honestly feel that I was able to tell the difference between taking the ethyl and the methyl. They didn't feel exactly the same.
4. The methyl felt like it had a higher, more 'dirty' CV load. Heavier, faster heart rate.
The ethyl would produce an energy 'push' in my abdomen and make me somewhat talkative for about an hour.
The methyl caused mild tinnitus and caused more of an improvement in my overall mood.
Both produced a pleasant kind of synergy -- at least for a while. I'd say there was a nice period of 2 hours where both stims were acting in tandem.
Towards the end of my 'experiment', I just started to feel a little cracked-out. The pleasant effects had subsided and I was dealing with some annoying CV stimulation (heartbeat about 25% above normal), mild tinnitus, and mild emotional irritability.
At the end of the evening I had a beer, smoked a little pot, and went straight to bed. No issues the next day.
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BTW I have to agree with what MOZZER said above: stims like ethyl / methylphenidate are somewhat deceiving. You take them THINKING that you're going to get a shit-load of stuff done, and yet I have found many times where I have just wasted hours of potentially productive time doing completely mindless crap.
Last week, case-in-point. I had a day off work. So I thought I'd take a stimulant and get lots of things done. I took some ethylphenidate orally and also nasally (with my new Atomizer toy). Horny thoughts entered my mind during one particular ethylphenidate rush. I immediately dropped my pants and wanked off to internet porn for 2 fucking hours. I felt like a freaking bonobo after it was all over. A really tweaked, stupid bonobo.
In fact, a bonobo would probably have been more productive than I was. Lolz.
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