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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V2

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I'm finding that "if" and only if the potency is on par with Methylphenidate that almost everyone is taking too much. MPH is dosed between 5mg to 20mg in one dose at a time therapeutically. So, if you're doing over 30mg per dose you are going to probaby get quite over stimmed atleast if you are a 1st timer. I get over stimmed easily on 70mg of MPH taken throughout the day dosed with a snuff bullet. I've been on Ritalin for a VERY long time and couldn't imagine taking 50mg+ in one dose. I just have done my 1st little line of EPH at 15mg and find it quite pleasant. I am curious at how many people get cut product as opposed to a truly pure product and then make snap judgements not knowing that it is cut. I'm sure alot of 1st timers do this then never touch the stuff again. That happened to me with cocaine. It was an awful mixture of low Q coke and baby laxative and it would be safe to say it had to be very little meth. When I finally tried HQ coke it was a world of difference. I wonder if local universities will test substances for people? I also can say the burn is nothing like the last batch of propylhexedrine I whipped out. So far my 1s go at EPH is nice. I like it quite a bit. A little lidocaine and it'd be great and probably more deserving of the name "ethylcaine" that some give it. What would be an acceptable medium to mix tiny amounts with for using in my snuff bullet? It'd have to be something that isn't sticky. Would mixing it with Paracetam work? I have a ton of that crap that is just sitting here that I haven't used since getting some Noopept. I just don't thing that I would get equal measure doses like I do with my MPH tabs. I could get 1mg in one dose and 7mg the next. But! if they are both soluable in water then I could just mix and evap, right? Damn, this EPH already has me starting to tweak a little bit :-)
 
punkboi26 said:
I'm finding that "if" and only if the potency is on par with Methylphenidate that almost everyone is taking too much. MPH is dosed between 5mg to 20mg in one dose at a time therapeutically. So, if you're doing over 30mg per dose you are going to probaby get quite over stimmed atleast if you are a 1st timer. I get over stimmed easily on 70mg of MPH taken throughout the day dosed with a snuff bullet. I've been on Ritalin for a VERY long time and couldn't imagine taking 50mg+ in one dose. I just have done my 1st little line of EPH at 15mg and find it quite pleasant. ...... Damn, this EPH already has me starting to tweak a little bit :-)
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lol - had that feeling as I was reading the post! This is all interesting info - thanks. I'll definitely start on max 20mg Ethylphenidate then see how that feels. If I'm enjoying it as it is then I might leave the MDAI for another time. Probably not though, to be honest... we'll see.
 
right, ive had a break from everything. this drug feels like its done more damage to my nose then anything else. the pain being bad. i noticed a lot of nose bleeds, over sensitive to cold when i breath. as well as what i presume is some scabbing in nose after use. despite a good period of time not taking ANY drug, my nose still feels damaged. i noticed ive lost a lot of sense of smell, for a while i couldnt smell my perfume at all. whats come back is just one smell, which i have a feeling is blood, but i have no idea, its a strange smell that varies in intensity. as said despite a break from ALL abuse, its not got better. and my currant level of abuse is slight compared to many and my youth when i could do grams of coke all the time. other then the odd use of this i use Methoxetamine but have not had any issues with this.

after a break, i just had a small bump, tiny, the instant pain was slightly worse then normal, i usually find you snort, a second or so later the pain kicks in. then a few seconds later the drug kicks in and you smile. anyway. i didnt feel much as it was so small, so i stupidly did another bump in my other nostral.

just spent over 2 hours curled up in AGONY having to hold my nose and sinuses. the WORST pain ever. i used a nasal spray, i snorted water and blew it out to clear the nose, all to no effect. i took some pain killers that didnt really help. there was some blood in blowing my nose but not much, no real bleed.

i will never put this up my nose again. some nausia

now have a headache and can feel my heat beat in my left ear (random i guess high blood pressure)

out of even more stupidity i tried some orally with water, no scales with me, but as i only had 1g, and the dose was what i used to snort line wise, i guessing between 50-100mg. im not really feeling anything from it.

how long does oral take to kick in? im worried about (desperation) re-dosing to early to get an effect.

defo. never never never snorting this again, and im not putting anything up my nose for a long while, as long as the septum isnt killed the nose will fix itself in time.

i cant have drug use on my medical record otherwise i would after this experience and the loss of smell etc, go to my dr and confess. even after quite some time without any abuse, its still on a daily basis looking like "the day after" a session. snotty, occasional blood.

despite having used this for a few months, my use has been few and far between, never had more then 1g, only maybe twice has it turned into a all night session use is usually 1/4g during day. and maybe no more then once a week, so its not like im really abusing my nose.

whats odd is i have had the crystal stuff and the powder, both were equally painful. the crystal stuff is very hard to crush properly and after a few drinks/lines i have once or twice ended up not crushing it as much as should do. even when crushed its still tiny crystals. this latest batch looks like the crystals crushed, like meph used to.

still in pain. :( shame as i liked it in low doses. made me focus on things, played video games for long time, get chores done. mph did nothing for me and camfetamine on the one time i tried it i swear left me feeling poisoned.
 
Hey butthurt missimoo (ignore me)

Insufflation is a fucking asshole...my nose has, like, spots in it from just 1g insufflated.

From now on I'm going up the ass when i use this shit I've tried it a few times; upon immmmmediate administration it doesn't hurt at all - and then when you take a shit it's perfectly fine. But be aware that i''ve only done this ~5 times. I've been informed that this shit hurts if yoiu keep doing it this wauy....but still..............
.........every fucking ROA with this drug hurrts. at least up the butt gives you a good high, and the pain comes later.

Up your ass everyone, Everyone, stick it up your ass.
 
Thanks for sharing this info. Hope your nose gets better.

An oral dose kicks in for me after an hour, but I always dose on an empty stomach & usually take about 100mg. Never had doses closer together than 3 or 4 days in between. Never had any pain or stomach problems after about 10 doses of this stuff (doses ranging between 40 & 120mgs). Don't use it to concentrate, but to dance.
 
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Hmm maybe we're all different,,,, but of course we are!


I just wish you all the best, This drug can be great if used correctly.... good luck with insunflation / butt plugging / oral .......whatever ROA. take care. i care. go forth and get high.
 
update from earlier. i didnt expect much from the oral dose, so again, like a idiot, i took another dab. took a while to hit but about 30 min it went from mild "meh" to the nasty agitated state to high a dose does. even with a few etizolam and a glass of wine not taking the edge off. can see that oral dosing can be maybe more of a risk of a OD in that it takes so long to hit. admittedly i had a full stomach.

the oral effect before it became to much (signs, agitation, loss of focus/drive to play video game/ watch telly, not social) was not the same as insufated. the "rush" of a line was not there. very different feeling. being a morish drug even when uncomfortable with it, part of me would love a line. but after earlier no way. shame as i liked this stim. maybe i will give oral a try again someother time with a measured low dose and a good 2 hour before more if need be.

lesson here, as ever, use scales. i know better but am not at home. i do know i have not taken a silly dose as said i only had 1g and most still there.

not liking this feeling.
 
Ethylphenidate ruined my sex last night. Couldn't even get it up for longer than five seconds..
 
Morkin said:
You can oral 100mg in water & rock for 6 hours. Don't be shy :P
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I know, I'm being what my mother would call a fusspot! Just being cautious as a first-timer. But you're probably right.

Nosebleed/pimple people: ouch! That sounds shit. I think I'll be snorting only very little based on your accounts. Just did my allergy test - only a tiny dab on a pinhead... it's fucking strong tasting for sure. Must sting like a mofo.
 
Sorry, I didn't realise this was your first go. Be a fusspot!

Try a dab on your lip or tongue for allergic-reaction (not common). Snorting will be painful & will leave unpleasant tastes and sensations in the throat for hours (or longer) & you'll degrade your own sense of taste/smell that you have for the next 60ish years.

Oral dose is best with a gel-cap to avoid the flavour, but mixed with water will work.

You might also consider staying at home until you know how it feels.
 
Thanks Morkin. What can I say except 'wooooooooooo'! This shit is rather good. Far more like Mephedrone than I was expecting and fuck am I horny! Note: MDAI has also been imbibed!

So, briefly, I led 3 fellow humans astray and last night we all rolled down the path of righteous research. Despite their derision, I insisted on allergy tests for each and every item. After that, in contrast to my fusspot stage, I suddenly felt all rather relaxed about everything. So the evening went from beer to eph to mdai, then round in that circle for a while. Then at about 5 in the morning we had some Kratom and calmed down. A tiny amount of Etizolam was used as allergy test but it never went any further than that. All in all, we had about 350mg of eph between us plus probably 500mg mdai.

Harm reduction:
Read a lot about the burn when snorting. Chopping with a blade helped a bit, but the eth was powdery anyway. There's no getting round the fact that snorting this shit is really not advisable. If you're going to do it, just sniff tiny amounts just to bump the oral dose. Then don't do it for a while afterwards! I'm now blowing about twice as much yellow shit out of my nose as I used to with Meph.

Now, in contradiction to my own advice, I'm going round again. I should point out that the chance to do shit like this comes round for me once in a blue moon. If a regular, should definitely avoid 2 days in a row and preferably steer for the longest intervals possible.

Look after your noses!

:D :D
 
Awesome man, glad you enjoyed!

And I think snorting is reckless impatience :)
 
Wtf is with everyone saying this us so harsh to sniff? I've shot it and sniffed it. Up to 1 gram in 24 hours and ethylphenidate isn't any harsher than mephedrone IMHO.

Maybe I'm a fucked degenerate but it seemed tolerable to me. Probably the best RC on the market as far as im concerned. Gotta love that dopamine russsshhhh.

Maybe not the best for a 'roll' experience, but if you wanna speed, wank and feel the dopamine look no further.
 
Boup, this drug is corrosive by nature. It does have the potential, like any other drug to cause significant damage to your nose or veins through use. Just because you can tolerate it relatively well, doesn't mean the rest of the world are immune to its side effect profile. How in gods name you could tolerate or stand to use a gram of the stuff in 24 hours is beyond me. Either you have an insane tolerance, or you're just telling some porky pies (no offense). How you even managed to feel much after redosing beyond once also surprises me. There's only so much dopamine you can withhold with this drug before it loses effects in terms of redosing. You're setting yourself up for some serious damage to your cardiovascular system by doing that, and urge people to not redose this stuff as liberally. After 24 hours and a gram of this stuff if probably be psychotic or dead.

I think ethylphenidate is a pretty dangerous and unbearable drug. I have tried it twice and found it too unbearable to handle. Gave me bad heart palps, anxiety and paranoia. That being said I have done a lot of methylphenidate of which I really enjoy and love. Something about ethylphenidate makes it unbearable for me. It is meant to just be a stronger methyl, but I think in reality it's quite dangerous. It also burnt my nose to a pretty harsh degree, left me unable to breathe for the next day or so. Hate the stuff. Hate all RCs in general though, just my opinion.

It strings me out to a level I'm really uncomfortable with. An the come down is worse than any other stimulant I've tried, and have quie a bit of experience with stims under my belt. It makes a cocaine comedown look like a silly joke.

This stuff needs to be treated with utmost respect and care, it will NOT respect you at all if you go in too hard with it. I know some people really enjoy it - and that's great. But these people are the ones that have found a correct dosage and have tinkered around until finding their sweet spot with it, much like methylphenidate. For me, there was no sweet spot however and I personally won't try it again.
 
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it's certainly quite caustic to mucous membranes, but does this mean it's harmful to veins?
+1 to treat this with caution. Stimulant psychosis comes very easily with this one
 
Boupstarnm said:
Wtf is with everyone saying this us so harsh to sniff? I've shot it and sniffed it. Up to 1 gram in 24 hours and ethylphenidate isn't any harsher than mephedrone IMHO.
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As a newbie to Ethylphenidate, I've been quite fortunate to have found a good supplier straight off. Actually, a bit of common sense probably did come into it, but there was some luck too.

I'm nearly done with my order and (against my own advice) I snorted the majority of my doses. Same with the MDAI. I think both of them sting more than Mephedrone, but having said that I believe the Meph I used to buy contained 5% numbing agent.

Still, there are two things making me think that Ethylphenidrate does properly fuck your nose if you snort too often: 1) This weekend I've had about 200mg Eth and I guess 300-400mg MDAI. So that's way less than a gram of powder. My nose has been kicking out at least twice as much yellow shit as it used to with Meph - and there's already blood in my snot, which with Meph required a good 2-3 day bender doing 1-3 grams a night. You could suggest that it's all down to the mdai, but based on huge numbers of online posts by Eth users, I doubt that. One of the mods posted a while back saying that his nose just exploded into blood when he/she blew it and it made a right mess. Then it did it again the next morning. That's reason 2 - other experiences described by the majority of snorters.

Importantly, the Eth I received was already a fine, dusty powder. The MDAI needed loads of chopping as it was more like tiny shards than powder. So I'm guessing that the MDAI sting was more due to its physical structure. However, with the ETH already being powdered, the only way it would sting is for chemical reasons.

That reminds me - harm reduction point: Don't go mad with the nose blowing. I've noticed with people using speed, charlie, meph and others, that they're keener to blow their nose sooner, perhaps so that they can still get the next rail in, or maybe its just habit. That's ok to a point, but I think that blowing too much and too hard can do more harm than good. As long as your line sizes are sensible and spaced out your nose will deal with the shit in its own time. If that means you can't snort a bump, just swallow it. It's not the same but its better than fucking the face! I thought about this last night, cos I was blowing my nose way more than usual. Then I realized 'hang on, I'm on stimulants. That means the force I blow with is likely to be more - plus I may not notice if something is wrong up there.' Basically, balance the rough snorting treatment out with some TLC.

Ironically, or perhaps fortunately, it was probably also because I was on stimulants that I took the trouble to consider this in such detail.

Ok, got to sleep. Cheers to everyone who responded to my posts last week.

:)
 
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