i are spectre
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seems that a lot of people are dosing WAY too high...
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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V2
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missimoo
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16 days after my last use where i experience SEVER pain from my nose like nothing before. update.
i have not taken anything since that experience, i noticed i lost sense of smell, i couldnt smell perfume, the only smell i could detect was like raw bacon, things that smelt, smelt like raw bacon, strong or weak, but the same. completely lost sense of smell. the nostral i used was extremely painful, and still is, outside breathing cold air its like breathing crushed glass. saying that, i have only had one tiny nose bleed in the last two weeks abstinence.
my nose has over the years put up with a lot, but this was the straw that broke the camels back. as they say. my cartilage in my nose i think is deviated, but not dead, its hollowed out but no holes (on coke years ago i had a hole that i could whistle through. i was young and stupid. now im old and stupid). i cant tell if there are scabs on the nose or what, i darnt mess with it atm. the right nostral is still painful.
only now after 16 days am i begining to get my sense of smell back. i can smell my douvet, cooking etc JUST faintly. and wow, i didnt know how much i would miss that sense. at one stage i was told i was wearing a top that stank of body odour, i was mortified as im not skank, the top looked clean, but i could not smell it!!!
i still have pain on the right nostral breathing in, pain in my cheek that might actually be unrelated tooth ache, but i have yet to see a dentist. i have avoided seeing a dr as i dont want this on my medical notes if i can recover by myself. it would ruin my life. im sure the septum is alive as its not rotting, and is healing.
my use of this substance was very light, ive not binged for days, ive used the odd gram well spaced and usually only a few bumps once a week at most. and yet it has done this much damage.
in my youth i abused speed, coke etc and i never had damage like this, and the damage i got from coke was after many years of a ~HEAVY daily habit for many years in my youth that i am several years clean off. even that didnt lose my sense of smell. ...only one experience comes close to the pain i felt using ETH ...was when a friend who dealt coke badly (useless at it) had dropped his stash on his floor and it got mixed with bleach powder and i was given a line of bleach. his main dealer walked in and saw it and he got his karma. so yes. i think this substance is very bad for the nose. advise not snorting it.
i have noticed since the stories of nose damage and pain, that its now being sold crushed. this might help, but its still corrosive. i dont know the chemistry, but one thing i learnt when i hurt my nose is to clean my nose after. the easiest method i came up with is to use a water bottle lid, fill it with water, snort it. repeat. easy. easier then putting your head in a sink or whatever. there are probably better methods, but i recommend if you MUST sniff this, use small doses, use one nostral per session, then use the other to let the first recover. and CLEAN the NOSE AFTER USE.
oh and ^^ i agree, low doses are much better. its suprising how a small tickle of EPH is nice, but a lil more and it becomes sketchy, agitated and nasty.
i have not taken anything since that experience, i noticed i lost sense of smell, i couldnt smell perfume, the only smell i could detect was like raw bacon, things that smelt, smelt like raw bacon, strong or weak, but the same. completely lost sense of smell. the nostral i used was extremely painful, and still is, outside breathing cold air its like breathing crushed glass. saying that, i have only had one tiny nose bleed in the last two weeks abstinence.
my nose has over the years put up with a lot, but this was the straw that broke the camels back. as they say. my cartilage in my nose i think is deviated, but not dead, its hollowed out but no holes (on coke years ago i had a hole that i could whistle through. i was young and stupid. now im old and stupid). i cant tell if there are scabs on the nose or what, i darnt mess with it atm. the right nostral is still painful.
only now after 16 days am i begining to get my sense of smell back. i can smell my douvet, cooking etc JUST faintly. and wow, i didnt know how much i would miss that sense. at one stage i was told i was wearing a top that stank of body odour, i was mortified as im not skank, the top looked clean, but i could not smell it!!!
i still have pain on the right nostral breathing in, pain in my cheek that might actually be unrelated tooth ache, but i have yet to see a dentist. i have avoided seeing a dr as i dont want this on my medical notes if i can recover by myself. it would ruin my life. im sure the septum is alive as its not rotting, and is healing.
my use of this substance was very light, ive not binged for days, ive used the odd gram well spaced and usually only a few bumps once a week at most. and yet it has done this much damage.
in my youth i abused speed, coke etc and i never had damage like this, and the damage i got from coke was after many years of a ~HEAVY daily habit for many years in my youth that i am several years clean off. even that didnt lose my sense of smell. ...only one experience comes close to the pain i felt using ETH ...was when a friend who dealt coke badly (useless at it) had dropped his stash on his floor and it got mixed with bleach powder and i was given a line of bleach. his main dealer walked in and saw it and he got his karma. so yes. i think this substance is very bad for the nose. advise not snorting it.
i have noticed since the stories of nose damage and pain, that its now being sold crushed. this might help, but its still corrosive. i dont know the chemistry, but one thing i learnt when i hurt my nose is to clean my nose after. the easiest method i came up with is to use a water bottle lid, fill it with water, snort it. repeat. easy. easier then putting your head in a sink or whatever. there are probably better methods, but i recommend if you MUST sniff this, use small doses, use one nostral per session, then use the other to let the first recover. and CLEAN the NOSE AFTER USE.
oh and ^^ i agree, low doses are much better. its suprising how a small tickle of EPH is nice, but a lil more and it becomes sketchy, agitated and nasty.
itglowsblue
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Thank you for this post. This sums up my personal experience with this compound quite well.
Don't snort it people. Seriously. If you already did follow missimoos advice and at least clean/rinse your nose once in a while.
t6apb
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i love snorting it, just make sure its crushed as much as humanly possible and snort some water before and after having a line.
pbuilder
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and stick to small lines as well because it takes like 20 seconds for 100mgs of this stuff to dissolve into 5mls of water, with some agitation. I know when you snort something, it has more to do with lipid solubility but in general I feel like this stuff can just stick around up there (ur nose) when doing too much per line, so considering the chemical burn sting that comes along with snorting this stuff, you definitely don't wanna have it just sitting around in ur nose for 10+ minutes .
DickTate
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Hey, I posted a while back because my EPH-Water solution (500mg/10ml) was flocking out after 2 months. At the beginning everything dissolved until I used about the half of it and let it alone.
Now in the remaining 5ml there are particles and another poster mentioned that it recrystalized because of the high concentration. So I doubled the amount of water and stirred/heated but nothing will help. I think about filtering the solution and maybe dry and weigh the particle amount to use it in this form.
Any input regarding this? How to get it dissolved again or how to divide liquid and particles. I don't want to use it in this form because dosing would be all over the place, even if only liquid would be consumed it would be less than measured...
Now in the remaining 5ml there are particles and another poster mentioned that it recrystalized because of the high concentration. So I doubled the amount of water and stirred/heated but nothing will help. I think about filtering the solution and maybe dry and weigh the particle amount to use it in this form.
Any input regarding this? How to get it dissolved again or how to divide liquid and particles. I don't want to use it in this form because dosing would be all over the place, even if only liquid would be consumed it would be less than measured...
t6apb
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would letting the water evaporate not work?
Recently used about 250mg orally over the course of 12 hours for a study aide. It worked and I did more than I usually would but there was a jittery anxiety underneath (a feeling I associate with noradrenaline release or reuptake inhibition) and by the end there was a clear and heavy body load. I slept like a baby almost immediately afterwards, as usual for me with stimulants. Not as bad as the first time I took it and ended up in a right state by accidentally overdosing though.
EPH is the sort of drug where you can accidentally give yourself full blown stimulant psychosis or dangerous vasoconstriction before you've even gotten high. It's especially punishing for those of us who get impatient and do some more before it kicks in properly. Treat it with respect and stay safe!
By the by, it's very interesting how polarising the EPH vs MPA war is (I'm an MPA man myself). There's hardly anyone who finds both drugs pleasant and effective. Must be something to do with their contrasting actions.
EPH is the sort of drug where you can accidentally give yourself full blown stimulant psychosis or dangerous vasoconstriction before you've even gotten high. It's especially punishing for those of us who get impatient and do some more before it kicks in properly. Treat it with respect and stay safe!
By the by, it's very interesting how polarising the EPH vs MPA war is (I'm an MPA man myself). There's hardly anyone who finds both drugs pleasant and effective. Must be something to do with their contrasting actions.
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ChinaWhiteHeroin
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Am I aloud to ask what website is a legit RC site? Lol
Morkin
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What, exactly, do you mean? Jaw grinding? GI upset? Shakes? Sweats?
David the Chansey
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Man, the only reason I ever redosed on this stuff is because it's so crap. MPA, even though it might be more "dirty" feeling to some, at least has a reason to take it in the first place.
David the Chansey
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Funny how stimulation is an undesirable effect of a stimulant... I guess I'll never understand. 
I wonder how many people have tried mpa compared to how many have tried eth. Maybe eth is just "preferred" more because some eth users haven't tried mpa, whereas I can imagine a lot of those who have tried mpa have tried eth. Maybe I'm wrong, but I really can't see why eth is more popular.
It's worth mentioning that I only really tried both orally every time. mpa orally > eth orally ime and imo.
I wonder how many people have tried mpa compared to how many have tried eth. Maybe eth is just "preferred" more because some eth users haven't tried mpa, whereas I can imagine a lot of those who have tried mpa have tried eth. Maybe I'm wrong, but I really can't see why eth is more popular.
It's worth mentioning that I only really tried both orally every time. mpa orally > eth orally ime and imo.
Morkin
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Ethyl is more like: feel nice for 1 hour then stimulation for 2 hours after that ime
mpa is very different to ethyl. It is longer lasting, much much much less anxiogenic but also 'dirtier' (kind of head clouding) as they say, less euphoric and less fiendish
mpa is very different to ethyl. It is longer lasting, much much much less anxiogenic but also 'dirtier' (kind of head clouding) as they say, less euphoric and less fiendish
David the Chansey
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We'll have to plainly agree to disagree there. I found mpa to be much more euphoric. 30mg (orally) was enough to feel good, but eth wasn't any good until up to 70mg (orally), but that's when the side effects settle in. It's important to remember dosing plays a massive part. For example, people take 100mg 6-apb and say it's crap. Well duh! At least 150mg is where it gets interesting.
I think mpa is stronger per dose. I remember feeling VERY stimulated for a long time from 50mg, and still over-stimulated from 40mg.
For a typical person, neither of them make a good study aid. At low doses they can keep you awake so you can study longer, but too much and your head goes crazy. I did my maths test on complex analysis while on mpa; God that was a mistake!
I think mpa is stronger per dose. I remember feeling VERY stimulated for a long time from 50mg, and still over-stimulated from 40mg.
For a typical person, neither of them make a good study aid. At low doses they can keep you awake so you can study longer, but too much and your head goes crazy. I did my maths test on complex analysis while on mpa; God that was a mistake!
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