RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

[Bone14]

Give it a break then? Ofcourse you don't get high if you use it everyday.

 

[BluLait]

Related to the ethylphenidate? Yes there are vasoconstriction issues with it although not usually if used in moderation.

If you meant was it related to mixing with alcohol, personally i would say no, the eph can cause vasoconstriction alone, I found alcohol relieved it slightly although I'm not reccomending that anyone should combine the two or with anything else for that matter especially not with any other stimulant, including caffeine.

Ya gotta clear your inbox again xD

 

[BritishLad]

I found Ethylphenidate (sold as racemic, not too sure of purity) to be very euphoric, and didn't realise how addictive it would become.

I ended up going on a 3 WEEK binge (including dosing throughout the work day - easily done with stims) and coming down every night with benzos to sleep. I'm not the type of person to get addicted to stims, they aren't my favourite kettle of fish anymore, but Ethylphenidate really snuck up on me, and the come down was very manageable (even without benzo's) and my tolerance just sky-rocketed, I wasn't really feeling euphoric unless i was doing doses around 100-150mgs.

I suffer with gastro-intestinal problems anyway, but the Ethylphenidate binge really worsened my condition (again purity issues may have came in to factor). It's been about a month since I last did it, and I'm starting to heal up. Don't get me wrong - I LOVED Ethylphenidate, it's a great high nice and euphoric, not too jittery like MPA, but you can still focus.

I just found it to be too applicable throughout my daily business, and in fact improved my work capabilities greatly...

A 3 week binge?! And you still had the euphoria the entire time or at least some? Also after getting some more of this RC I must say it is rather morish, only down side is the dysphoria and depression after a binge. With speed (and I mean good speed not uk street rubbish) I feel weak, this stuff makes your heart go racing. As I know since I took a little bit to much, that last redose what a mistake xD. Still lesson learned, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets banned soon when it becomes popular. Which I am 100% sure it will.

 

[Frogster]

Ethylphenidate fits somehow halfway between Ritalin and Cocaine which is no surprise when looking at its pharmacological profile. Subjective effects are quite stimulant typic:

Positive:
Mood Lift, euphoria, increased attention, focus and motivation
Neutral:
Wakefulness, irritability, phisical stimulation
Negative:
Depletion of dopamine and norepinephrine, craving induction, habit forming, cardiovascular harm, anxiety, paranoia, delusions, insomnia, bad comedowns, depression and other psychological harm after prolongued (ab)use...

 

[BritishLad]

Benzos are a must for this, at the moment I'm finding alcohol effective for the anxiety that comes with it if you use to much. Or in my case arn't mentally use to such potent stimulation.

 

[trammies]

Benzos are a must for this, at the moment I'm finding alcohol effective for the anxiety that comes with it if you use to much. Or in my case arn't mentally use to such potent stimulation.

In the interest of Harm Reduction- Stimulants and Alcohol are a no-go. Especially if you're using the alcohol to ween off anxiety. It'd probably be a better idea to lower doses, really.
But then again... That's no fun...

 

[knock]

Has anyone tried this while taking an SSRI? I'm two weeks into 20mg/day fluoxetine. I'm seriously bored of not taking drugs, plus I'm always tired. In theory it should be fine as methylphenidate is sometimes prescribed together with an SSRI but I just wanted to check for first-hand experiences.

 

[BritishLad]

I am currently on citalopram 30mg/day and felt it perfectly fine and good. My first time was very intense so yours should be just as good. This RC releases dopamine and some norpramin, not serotonin. Which is very good for us on SSRIs as they won't kill the high and we don't have to worry about serotonin toxcitity. Just make sure you take the right precautions such as stacking up on magnism and L-Tyrosine . Magnism for the bruxism which if you plan on a long session, say over 5 hours you WILL need. Or your jaw will hurt like hell, and L-Tyrosine to speed up getting back all that dopamine and nopramin.

 

[knock]

I am currently on citalopram 30mg/day and felt it perfectly fine and good. My first time was very intense so yours should be just as good. This RC releases dopamine and some norpramin, not serotonin. Which is very good for us on SSRIs as they won't kill the high and we don't have to worry about serotonin toxcitity. Just make sure you take the right precautions such as stacking up on magnism and L-Tyrosine . Magnism for the bruxism which if you plan on a long session, say over 5 hours you WILL need. Or your jaw will hurt like hell, and L-Tyrosine to speed up getting back all that dopamine and nopramin.

Cheers mate, just what I wanted to hear it won't be my first time on ethylphenidate as I've used it several times before I started fluoxetine, and I'm not planning on a session, just maybe 15-20mg every few days. Interesting about the L-Tyrosine I will read up.

Seeing as I've found someone else on an SSRI have you any experience with camfetamine, MPA and 3-MeO-PCP? I used these before the fluoxetine but I'm wary now, especially the 3-MeO-PCP. I'm not even going to ask about MXE given the reported problems with serotonergic drugs. Oh go on then, have you tried MXE?

 

[kitsunedemon]

Cheers mate, just what I wanted to hear it won't be my first time on ethylphenidate as I've used it several times before I started fluoxetine, and I'm not planning on a session, just maybe 15-20mg every few days. Interesting about the L-Tyrosine I will read up.

Seeing as I've found someone else on an SSRI have you any experience with camfetamine, MPA and 3-MeO-PCP? I used these before the fluoxetine but I'm wary now, especially the 3-MeO-PCP. I'm not even going to ask about MXE given the reported problems with serotonergic drugs. Oh go on then, have you tried MXE?

I have been on 200mgs Trazodone (SARI) for awhile now, probably about 8-10months, though Trazodone's Serotonin Reuptake Inhibition is no way near as potent as Fluoxetine's, and didn't find any negative effects (other than standard high-dose MXE problems) while using MXE and i used it relatively regularly for a couple of months. Just start with low doses and you should be alright, unless anyone knows of any other potentional risks with SSRI's. I'm pretty sure it's a Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitor, with NDMA Receptor Antagonism, so, shouldn't be too risky.

 

[knock]

I have been on 200mgs Trazodone (SARI) for awhile now, probably about 8-10months, though Trazodone's Serotonin Reuptake Inhibition is no way near as potent as Fluoxetine's, and didn't find any negative effects (other than standard high-dose MXE problems) while using MXE and i used it relatively regularly for a couple of months. Just start with low doses and you should be alright, unless anyone knows of any other potentional risks with SSRI's. I'm pretty sure it's a Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitor, with NDMA Receptor Antagonism, so, shouldn't be too risky.

Thanks, very helpful. This - SSRI-compatible drugfuckery - should probably have it's own thread, if mods have an opinion please act or speak!

On topic, paradoxically I couldn't sleep last night. I think this may have been related to me taking my fluoxetine in the morning rather than the evening (I was yawning all fucking day then come bed time PING wide awake ), but also due to a bout of restless leg syndrome which I've had all my life and have been self-treating with alcohol. I treated it with poppy pod tea last night which is a bit cleaner and more effective than booze but by the time I'd made it and it kicked in it was almost 5.30am so I stayed awake. By 10am I was feeling ready to drop so I took some ethylphenidate, starting of with tiny doses and building up to a comfortable level of functional stimulation. Over the last six hours I've dosed maybe 40-50mg ethylphenidate, I feel productively alert and no negative effects. So %)

 

[kitsunedemon]

Thanks, very helpful. This - SSRI-compatible drugfuckery - should probably have it's own thread, if mods have an opinion please act or speak!

On topic, paradoxically I couldn't sleep last night. I think this may have been related to me taking my fluoxetine in the morning rather than the evening (I was yawning all fucking day then come bed time PING wide awake ), but also due to a bout of restless leg syndrome which I've had all my life and have been self-treating with alcohol. I treated it with poppy pod tea last night which is a bit cleaner and more effective than booze but by the time I'd made it and it kicked in it was almost 5.30am so I stayed awake. By 10am I was feeling ready to drop so I took some ethylphenidate, starting of with tiny doses and building up to a comfortable level of functional stimulation. Over the last six hours I've dosed maybe 40-50mg ethylphenidate, I feel productively alert and no negative effects. So %)

No problem, with SSRI interactions the thing you are most frequently trying to prevent is known as Serotonin Syndrome if you weren't aware. Whap that into Wikipedia if you want to know more, or see this thread http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/618237-Serotonin-amp-Antidepressants-%28SSRIs-amp-MAOIs%29?highlight=serotonin+syndrome! Hope that helps, be super careful if you ever decided to mess around with serotonergic drugs and SSRI's or MAOI's.

 

[Groundhog]

This thing is a lot more addictive than anyone could have originally imagined.

Be careful!

Unfortunately I know that only too well.........

I tried to warn people of this in my first couple of posts and it's sad to see how more and more people are finding this out for themselves as this thread goes on. I know that it's easy to describe the dangers and read what others have said about them but people will only fully realise how real they are by experiencing it for themselves. I understand that as I have done exactly the same with other substances, despite what people may have warned of about using them.

I just hope that others who are experimenting with this realise it for themselves and are able to see it before it is able to sneak up and take a hold on you. It is so easily done...........but no words or warnings are going explain this, unfortunately it will only be when you experience what has been warned to understand what it means.

Tread carefully people........

 

[spephspeph]

I've binged on this a few times.
Small amounts makes this sort of ok for a functional stimulant, but if I mistimed the redose or took too much, it could go downhill. Lots of urination, dry mouth, inner restlessness.
Found taking lots of L-Tyrosine could help, but that could have been psychosomatic.

I've also seen some vendors selling this in 75mg capsules, which to me seems like a huge dose, which (to me) would have had nasty cardio side effects.

Feels less dirty to me than MPA too.

 

[lynx2051]

Yeah, MPA has always felt dirty.

 

[lynx2051]

I can't find things to do on this drug.

 

[slamingrudie]

Is anyone IVing this stuff? I've IV'd methylphendiate before and always liked that when I can't find any decent cocaine. Would ethylphendiate produce similar results?

 

[Zazen]

^ Plugging this works well, and 25mg in 1ml of water produced very little burn. Was very surprised considering the pain when insufflated. Still would be vary wary about IV'ing it though, and would start off with a VERY small test dose.

 

[lynx2051]

It's such a shame that snorting is so bad for your nose with this, because orally just isn't very satisfying. Plus if you re-dose orally it just turns very edgy.

 

[lynx2051]

Has anyone tried rubbing this into the gums? I've also noticed that when snorted it doesn't dissolve properly while up there. You have to sniff really hard to get the drip down your throat. What I do now is sniff a bit of hot water before taking it, then snort the ethyl, this helps a bit but not much. I'll then snort more water afterwards to wash it out.