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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

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Cyanoide said:
Yes, I've been doing EPH for 8 days straight now (with one day without taking it). But I've slept enough, eaten healthy and taking lots of vitamins. I'm not going to try and stop this, I'll continue until my gram is gone and then I'll never touch this stuff again. I actually feel fine both physically and mentally, but that's because I've had the right medication to put myself to sleep and erase any comedown. But daytime I use it for some 10 hours straight. Tbh I don't even like this stuff that much, but something keeps me taking it all the time. Thankfully it's soon gone. I've never encountered such an addictive compound, well cocaine is more addictive for me, but I never have it for more than one day/night.
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I dont wan't this to come across in any way as "I told you so", that's not my intention at all, but in my first couple of posts, I warned that this substance can get a hold of you which is so easily done without realising how much at first that it now has got you by the bollocks. Thats what happened to me anyway, and as stated in those posts daily use of 500mg+. It really is a place you don't want to find yourself in.
I also said that as this thread progresses, more and more will become apparent and that is exactly what seems to be happenning.......
Please forgive if my opinions come across as patronising, I don't wish that at all.
 
neutrophilis said:
so can i smoke the crystal through my ganja pipe ?
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It is possible yes, I posted a page or two back that I smoked the crystal through a bong, less harsh with water but more effective without. Have a look at my post on this for more info but I strongly advise against it. It is harsh as fuck. I think inhaling pure ammonia would be less uncomfortable. Despite the harshness you need to take a proper lungful of a hit that sears your throat and lungs to get any decent amount of rush which ain't that great anyway. Bong hits of MDPV.....now thats a different story, although we won't go there either! Smoking the crystal eph is fiendish too and requires a lot of material,
500mg that was sitting there when you started has now disappeared into a cloud of the most vile stench of a vapour in as short a time as an hour or two.

If you want to smoke a stim, well vapourise not smoke, then chase MPA off tin foil FTW. Lots more euphoric not very harsh IME but you can get a bit of a gacky chest after a heavy session but that is to be expected if you inhale chemical vapours!
 
Don't forget you can edit your posts so you don't have to make several in a row.

Smoking it should be possible but be aware that a pipe makes it quite likely that you would burn some.
 
Groundhog said:
It is possible yes, I posted a page or two back that I smoked the crystal through a bong, less harsh with water but more effective without. Have a look at my post on this for more info but I strongly advise against it. It is harsh as fuck. I think inhaling pure ammonia would be less uncomfortable. Despite the harshness you need to take a proper lungful of a hit that sears your throat and lungs to get any decent amount of rush which ain't that great anyway. Bong hits of MDPV.....now thats a different story, although we won't go there either! Smoking the crystal eph is fiendish too and requires a lot of material,
500mg that was sitting there when you started has now disappeared into a cloud of the most vile stench of a vapour in as short a time as an hour or two.

If you want to smoke a stim, well vapourise not smoke, then chase MPA off tin foil FTW. Lots more euphoric not very harsh IME but you can get a bit of a gacky chest after a heavy session but that is to be expected if you inhale chemical vapours!
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Haha k man :)
 
Racemic ethylphenidate ((RS)-ethyl 2-phenyl-2-piperidin-2-ylacetate), although I haven't tried it, is very similar to methylphenidate both chemically and pharmacologically. I doubt it has any neurotoxic properties like amphetamines do.

This drug should be further researched and tested to see if it could be used for the treatment of ADD/ADHD in the future.
 
I wouldn't prescribe this to ADHD patients... It's way too euphoric.

But then again, maybe continuous small doses would be perfect for ADHD patients. Considering the fact that this has a higher dopamine to adrenaline ratio than methylphenidate, it may be just the thing for people with ADHD... As I think that only dopamine plays a role in ADHD and not norepinephrine. It may in fact, be better than methylphenidate in the treatment of ADHD because it doesn't put that much of a strain on the cardiovascular system because of it's weak adrenal affinity - that's less side-effects - better drug :)

I had around 300 mg EPH yesterday. I stayed up all night on it, and at one point I was so high and fucked on benzos, eph, alcohol and weed that I actually spilled about 200 mg on the floor (the baggie was opened and i somehow hit it with my hand and it fell down, spilling half (if not more) of the powder/crystals.
That was soooooo fucking annoying. I was so fucked up that I actually spent 2 hours on my floor with a flashlight, picking up any tiny crystals/powder that I could find. I managed to salvage around 80mg, but the powder was contaminated with dust/hair/other bullshit from my floor. So what did I do?
I put all of the powder/dust/hair/bullshit in a shot glass filled with water. I then filtered the water twice by using a funnel and 2 coffee filters. What I was left with was a glass clear water and the 80mg of dissolved EPH. I then put the dissolved water/eph on a plate, left it on the heater for the water to evaporate and stopped snorting EPH. Went and smoked another joint. I started to crash, but because I was so high on benzos I just fell asleep and slept for 11 hours.

When I woke up, the water on the plate was almost evaporated so I sped up the process by blowing on the water with my mouth/putting next to the open window/using a piece of paper to blow wind in it's direction/etc.. When all of the water evaporated I was hoping that the crystals would form on the plate and I would just scrape them off - didn't happen. There was this smudge/sticky/shit on the plate, that I couldn't scrape off with absolutely anything - I tried with a credit card, a razor blade, a knife. I finally gave up and put the plate in the sink and washed it over with water.

Now I got probably 50mg left of this stuff and I'm fucking scared about what I'm going to do when I finish it.
Which means, I'm well on my way to addiction on the stuff... Oh but it is so nice...

I'm so pissed off I spilled so much on the floor.

Groundhog said:
Please forgive if my opinions come across as patronising, I don't wish that at all.
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By the way dude. I like you. But don't apologize so much, you don't need to ;)
 
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I've used this in moderation a few times with alcohol. I have noticed a tendency to get pins and needles in hands and feet a day or two after use... Related?
 
BluLait said:
I wouldn't prescribe this to ADHD patients... It's way too euphoric.

But then again, maybe continuous small doses would be perfect for ADHD patients. Considering the fact that this has a higher dopamine to adrenaline ratio than methylphenidate, it may be just the thing for people with ADHD... As I think that only dopamine plays a role in ADHD and not norepinephrine. It may in fact, be better than methylphenidate in the treatment of ADHD because it doesn't put that much of a strain on the cardiovascular system because of it's weak adrenal affinity - that's less side-effects - better drug :)

I had around 300 mg EPH yesterday. I stayed up all night on it, and at one point I was so high and fucked on benzos, eph, alcohol and weed that I actually spilled about 200 mg on the floor (the baggie was opened and i somehow hit it with my hand and it fell down, spilling half (if not more) of the powder/crystals.
That was soooooo fucking annoying. I was so fucked up that I actually spent 2 hours on my floor with a flashlight, picking up any tiny crystals/powder that I could find. I managed to salvage around 80mg, but the powder was contaminated with dust/hair/other bullshit from my floor. So what did I do?
I put all of the powder/dust/hair/bullshit in a shot glass filled with water. I then filtered the water twice by using a funnel and 2 coffee filters. What I was left with was a glass clear water and the 80mg of dissolved EPH. I then put the dissolved water/eph on a plate, left it on the heater for the water to evaporate and stopped snorting EPH. Went and smoked another joint. I started to crash, but because I was so high on benzos I just fell asleep and slept for 11 hours.

When I woke up, the water on the plate was almost evaporated so I sped up the process by blowing on the water with my mouth/putting next to the open window/using a piece of paper to blow wind in it's direction/etc.. When all of the water evaporated I was hoping that the crystals would form on the plate and I would just scrape them off - didn't happen. There was this smudge/sticky/shit on the plate, that I couldn't scrape off with absolutely anything - I tried with a credit card, a razor blade, a knife. I finally gave up and put the plate in the sink and washed it over with water.

Now I got probably 50mg left of this stuff and I'm fucking scared about what I'm going to do when I finish it.
Which means, I'm well on my way to addiction on the stuff... Oh but it is so nice...

I'm so pissed off I spilled so much on the floor.



By the way dude. I like you. But don't apologize so much, you don't need to ;)
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I doubt its more euphoric than dextroamphetamine or methamphetamine and those two are prescribed for ADD/ADHD. I get Dexedrine 10 mg IR tabs scripted to me 20 mg 3x/day monthly. If amphetamines can be prescribed for ADD/ADHD then I'm sure a methylphenidate analogue is a great candidate for further research and testing to be used in the future for ADD/ADHD patients. Plus the therapeutic dose would be considerably less than what you or others might be taking.

Like you said, it is more selective to the dopamine transporter and has less activity on the norepinephrine transporter, unlike methylphenidate, which has equal activity on both. According to wiki, it has a near-identical dopaminergic pharmacodynamic profile as methylphenidate but less activity on norepinephrine compared to methylphenidate.
 
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JedTheHumanoid said:
I've used this in moderation a few times with alcohol. I have noticed a tendency to get pins and needles in hands and feet a day or two after use... Related?
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Related to the ethylphenidate? Yes there are vasoconstriction issues with it although not usually if used in moderation.

If you meant was it related to mixing with alcohol, personally i would say no, the eph can cause vasoconstriction alone, I found alcohol relieved it slightly although I'm not reccomending that anyone should combine the two or with anything else for that matter especially not with any other stimulant, including caffeine.
 
I sniffed 13mg yesterday and there is hardly any effect now. Tolerance must build rapidly with this. Also now I can understand the nose pain everyone was talking about. Tried 17mg orally this morning and again hardly any effects, just mild stimulation. Where has the euphoria gone?
 
^^^That tends to happen with most stimulants. tollerance builds up realllly fast
 
I found Ethylphenidate (sold as racemic, not too sure of purity) to be very euphoric, and didn't realise how addictive it would become.

I ended up going on a 3 WEEK binge (including dosing throughout the work day - easily done with stims) and coming down every night with benzos to sleep. I'm not the type of person to get addicted to stims, they aren't my favourite kettle of fish anymore, but Ethylphenidate really snuck up on me, and the come down was very manageable (even without benzo's) and my tolerance just sky-rocketed, I wasn't really feeling euphoric unless i was doing doses around 100-150mgs.

I suffer with gastro-intestinal problems anyway, but the Ethylphenidate binge really worsened my condition (again purity issues may have came in to factor). It's been about a month since I last did it, and I'm starting to heal up. Don't get me wrong - I LOVED Ethylphenidate, it's a great high nice and euphoric, not too jittery like MPA, but you can still focus.

I just found it to be too applicable throughout my daily business, and in fact improved my work capabilities greatly...
 
Just dosed 20mg orally and still hardly anything, just mild tigntness in the chest and ephedrine type stimulation.
 
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