The EADD Sickness and Pain Thread ver Pain of the Wrist & Cock

[Sprout]

Rapid buprenorphine taper? I wouldn't count on it being almost over on day 5 of cold turkey! Even codeine WD hasn't cleared by day 5 with me, tho mileages vary.

Really? I must have a faster metabolism than yourself in that case, because if using pure Morphine the timescale I gave has been accurate in my experience.
Codeine always seemed short but brutally intense.

By 'almost over', I am referring to not being a 'fluid man' doubled over in abdominal pain with complete insomnia.
I suppose 'almost over' is a rather subjective phrase.

 

[Allein]

Rapid buprenorphine taper? I wouldn't count on it being almost over on day 5 of cold turkey! Even codeine WD hasn't cleared by day 5 with me, tho mileages vary.

I can't see my GP prescribing that TBH, I don't intend to just CT from where I am, I don't need to as he's not going to cut me off in a hurry. CT is attractive in terms of the way I know I tend to work with these things but I've tapered Benzos a few times and survived getting off Venlafaxine.

I just doubt my GP will suggest anything other than tapering down, I'm pretty sure I could half my doesnt my just holding out until midday and then taking my normal morning dose, I was more interested in what people thought about the quantity I'm taking, from what others have said it isnt a huge amount but doctors are useless for that kind of info

 

[mydrugbuddy]

yeah one of the nurses in hospital told me i couldnt have more than 60mg of codeine at any one time as i could OD on it.

 

[Allein]

yeah one of the nurses in hospital told me i couldnt have more than 60mg of codeine at any one time as i could OD on it.

Honestly some of them talk such utter shite, in my recent hospital visit they completely ignored the morphine I'd already been taking so I just wasnt getting enough post op pain relief. After 3 days they brought in a pain management nurse who realised their error and made a recommendation for meds, she was even talking about giving me Oxy. Then some tosser of a doctor just over ruled her and they left me with nothing for 5 hours. I then threatened to discharge myself so they let me go home and I just used the pain meds I already had.

I get they don't want to give people too many opiate pain killers but if you're in pain , like you've just had your leg broken in 2 and bolted back together you need something. It's not the first time I've had a pain mangement nurse say I needed significantly more meds only to be over ruled by some suited waste of space doctor.

It's lucky my GP is more helpful, he knows I've had substance issues, it's discussed regularly in terms of my own concern about becoming dependant on opiates. I never ask for specific medication and have turned down things like oramorph and even diazepam in the past, he's a decent enough doctor and doesnt seem to label people as drug seekers

 

[Kota]

I just signed up for the local public gym. I haven't been to a gym in ages. I went for half an hour on Saturday, mucking around with the exercise bikes and dumbbells. I am even more unfit than I thought.

 

[Kota]

As the name suggests this thread is to discuss healthy living. Things like;

What exercise are you currently doing?

I'm just beginning to piece together a workout plan for myself after a long time off exercise. I mostly want to work towards body fat reduction and upper body strength.

Do you eat healtht?

I hate eating. I grew up with food phobias, then was misdiagnosed with anorexia, and now have finally been left alone as "just a person who hates eating". There are some foods which I enjoy, such as almost all fruit, oatmeal, noodles, pasta, miso soup, chicken, spinach, and rice, so I try to combine them healthily. As it is, I've been lazy lately with food. I eat ready meals that taste of nothing in particular to get past the problem of not liking much food. I eat oatmeal with fruit or honey in the morning and a ready meal at night. I really need to get back into cooking, because my health is actually awful. I have those malnutrition marks on my fingernails

Do you believe that you can sti be healthy n take drugs? If so, why n how?

Absolutely, so long as it's nothing egregiously neurotoxic, and you take care to follow HR procedures.

What do you think of fast food chains such as KFC n McDonalds?

I quite like some of the snacks they sell, but their meals are rubbish. From a health point of view, it's all rubbish.

How important is it to have a healthy mind? Do good nutrition n / exercise contribute to a healthy mind?

Very! In my opinion, taking substances to maintain your mental wellbeing isn't a sign of weakness, though - some people can go without, but some can't. I absolutely believe in mental wellbeing being as important as physical. Mens sana etc.

 

[Chatative]

Ha, the first week or two are always the hardest but after that it's a breeze. I haven't been to the gym since February now I think. Still done some running outside, but not very much.

Thinking of starting a calisthenics based workout to do at home through the winter.

 

[kingme]

shit, i should get back to a workout. been out of shape for a few months now and running out of excuses.

just that i dont have a gym membership anymore, and cant afford to get one at the moment. and outside of a gym i find it excrutiatingly hard to work up the motivation

 

[Chatative]

Hmm, I can understand that... do you have any dumbbells at home or anything? I can handle any real weight at home, not got heavy enough weights but I got a set of dumbbell bars/plates & a bench. Enough with calisthenics to make some progress.

Happy to say I'm putting weight back on again outwith exercises even after losing a stone this year.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

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20 minutes
Your blood pressure, pulse rate and the temperature of your hands and feet have returned to normal.
8 hours
Remaining nicotine in your bloodstream has fallen to 6.25% of normal peak daily levels, a 93.75% reduction.
12 hours
Your blood oxygen level has increased to normal. Carbon monoxide levels have dropped to normal.
24 hours
Anxieties have peaked in intensity and within two weeks should return to near pre-cessation levels.
48 hours
Damaged nerve endings have started to regrow and your sense of smell and taste are beginning to return to normal. Cessation anger and irritability will have peaked.
72 hours
Your entire body will test 100% nicotine-free and over 90% of all nicotine metabolites (the chemicals it breaks down into) will now have passed from your body via your urine. Symptoms of chemical withdrawal have peaked in intensity, including restlessness. The number of cue induced crave episodes experienced during any quitting day have peaked for the "average" ex-user. Lung bronchial tubes leading to air sacs (alveoli) are beginning to relax in recovering smokers. Breathing is becoming easier and your lung's functional abilities are starting to increase.
5 - 8 days
The "average" ex-smoker will encounter an "average" of three cue induced crave episodes per day. Although we may not be "average" and although serious cessation time distortion can make minutes feel like hours, it is unlikely that any single episode will last longer than 3 minutes. Keep a clock handy and time them.
10 days
10 days - The "average" ex-user is down to encountering less than two crave episodes per day, each less than 3 minutes.
10 days to 2 weeks
Recovery has likely progressed to the point where your addiction is no longer doing the talking. Blood circulation in your gums and teeth are now similar to that of a non-user.
2 to 4 weeks
Cessation related anger, anxiety, difficulty concentrating, impatience, insomnia, restlessness and depression have ended. If still experiencing any of these symptoms get seen and evaluated by your physician.
21 days
The number of acetylcholine receptors, which were up-regulated in response to nicotine's presence in the frontal, parietal, temporal, occipital, basal ganglia, thalamus, brain stem, and cerebellum regions of the brain, have now substantially down-regulated, and receptor binding has returned to levels seen in the brains of non-smokers (2007 study).
2 weeks to 3 months
Your heart attack risk has started to drop. Your lung function is beginning to improve.
3 weeks to 3 months
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8 weeks
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1 to 9 months
Any smoking related sinus congestion, fatigue or shortness of breath has decreased. Cilia have regrown in your lungs, thereby increasing their ability to handle mucus, keep your lungs clean and reduce infections. Your body's overall energy has increased.
1 year
Your excess risk of coronary heart disease, heart attack and stroke has dropped to less than half that of a smoker.
5 years
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5 to 15 years
Your risk of stroke has declined to that of a non-smoker.
10 years
Your risk of being diagnosed with lung cancer is between 30% and 50% of that for a continuing smoker (2005 study). Risk of death from lung cancer has declined by almost half if you were an average smoker (one pack per day). Risk of cancer of the mouth, throat, esophagus and pancreas have declined. Risk of developing diabetes for both men and women is now similar to that of a never-smoker (2001 study).
13 years
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15 years
Your risk of coronary heart disease is now that of a person who has never smoked. Your risk of pancreatic cancer has declined to that of a never-smoker (2011 study - but note 2nd pancreatic study making identical finding at 20 years).
20 years
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[masaz]

Welp, time to quit smoking then! Giving up the booze too because fuck these hangovers where I just get angry and want to hit people.


Til Christmas, anyway. And after I've had these two bottles of Crabbies.

 

[Sammy G]

I hate eating. I grew up with food phobias, then was misdiagnosed with anorexia, and now have finally been left alone as "just a person who hates eating". There are some foods which I enjoy, such as almost all fruit, oatmeal, noodles, pasta, miso soup, chicken, spinach, and rice, so I try to combine them healthily. As it is, I've been lazy lately with food. I eat ready meals that taste of nothing in particular to get past the problem of not liking much food. I eat oatmeal with fruit or honey in the morning and a ready meal at night. I really need to get back into cooking, because my health is actually awful. I have those malnutrition marks on my fingernails

I'm one of those people too. There aren't many of us, so everybody thinks we're just being fussy or difficult (they do with me anyhow) or well-meaningly question the size of my 'meals'.

I've just come out of a really lazy / disinterested patch where I wasn't even cooking, but just subsisting on ready-made falafels, chocolate Nurishment, bread and the occasional 'salad' (i.e. buy a bag of rocket and sit there eating it). Right now I'm subsisting on (mostly) tinned veggie soups, and though it isn't ideal, I'm feeling the benefit.

Crazy to find somebody who gets the whole food thing.

I've had a hell of a time explaining that it isn't anorexia, it isn't exactly OCD and it isn't just me being a stubborn prick. I hope I've sometimes been successful. Hope you manage to find some equilibrium with it, cos malnutrition is not a place you want to be. :

shit, i should get back to a workout. been out of shape for a few months now and running out of excuses.

just that i dont have a gym membership anymore, and cant afford to get one at the moment. and outside of a gym i find it excrutiatingly hard to work up the motivation

I'm the opposite - I could never do the gym thing. No, not just because I'm afraid of the amount of sodomy that goes on; I just prefer to exercise alone.

Trouble is, with the hours I work and the time I spend commuting, plus the meds, I really don't have the energy to do anything in the evenings. I already wake up at 5:30am, so I'd have to go back to waking at 5 or earlier and doing half an hour or so, meaning I then have even less time to do anything constructive in the evenings (I get home between 6 and 7, and have to eat, and should be sleeping a minimum of eight hours according to the doctors) even if I had the motivation to do so.

Still reading? Poor me, right?

 

[Kota]

Ate really badly today. Started the day with porridge, trying to be healthy. Went through the McD's drive through with a friend at 7, had small fries. Had noodles and an egg a minute ago. Doubt I'll eat anything later. I ate enough today, but not exactly the right stuff.

 

[Super Ted]

The previous 3 weeks has gone well doing the 5:2 diet with two x 2 mile runs every week. ... Alcohol has been reduced to bourbon and diet coke Friday and Saturday nights only and I have replaced latte's with black coffee ... The result was losing 9 pounds.

Last week was a spectacular crash resulting in a takeaway every night and I have massively un done a lot of hard work.

My thoughts on KFC, Pizza, curry, chip shop chips and chinese... You are evil tasty bastards.

 

[Josh]

Not so much in pain today, but in the future. In 37 days in fact. For today I learnt that January 15th is the day I will have my arse removed. Through an 8" hole in my abdomen, which I'm guessing will be at least mildly painful.

Hopefully that'll be the end of the pain I've had for a couple of years now though.

 

[maxalfie]

You two Allein & Josh have really been through the wars and neither of you have been lucky enough to have a quick fix to sort out your problems. I can't imagine the constant pain and seemingly endless operations you have both had to endure. Kudos to you both for battling on and on.

 

[maxalfie]

Am getting a bit concerned as the leg I had a Dvt in around this time last year has started to ache again and is slightly swollen and red,nowhere as bad as it was before. Wanderering now if it is dvt again or if it's fluid collecting there as cardiologist did tell me to look out for legs,feet or abdomen swelling. Surely though if it was due to my heart and not a dvt then fluid would collect in both legs?

 

[Allein]

^^^ I've no idea max but it sounds like you need to get yer sen yo a doctor forthwith. Do you take anything for the previous DVT I had to inject (IM) myself with some crazy shit for about 2 weeks following that last op to think my blood to avoid the same thing.

 

[Josh]

Fragmin perchance? They always come round to stick me with that when I'm in hospital, 6pm on the dot every night. Stings a whole bunch more than the tiny needle suggests it might.

 

[Allein]

I had to go and look it up as Fragmin didn't sound familiar, it was Clexane and it did indeed sting like buggery.

This last week I'm actually seeing some genuine improvement in pain, I suspect the lack of physical activity has helped my back recover but the post op pain is definitely subsiding. My consultant seemed happy enough with it but dropped into the conversation that I'm going to have to have all the metal work taken back out in 18 months because if it was left in place it would prevent the future knee replacement I'll inevitably need...something to look forward to

I had a bit of an assessment at the physio and my left leg has less than half the strength I have in the right but it looks a damn sight straighter now so it looks like it will all be worth it in the end.

All the best to you Josh, hoping 2015 sees you go from strength to strength