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The EADD Mental Health Support Thread

Agreed with Monsta - a blessing for some whilst a curse for others. For me, it gave me stretchmarks from rapid weight gain and propelled me into an unceasing daze that was supposed to end after tolerance built but never actually did.

Fantastic for insomnia or if you want to sleep away opiate or any ilk of withdrawals - just dont expect to wake up at an appropriate hour the day following. I once slept for 18 consecutive hours on this medication before - arose for a cigarette and some serious munchies (all of which took a mere 25-30mins) before returning to bed for an additional eight. The worst point of my life ever - I basically slept away about 10months of my life because the waking hours of my existence were making me suicidal; at least as suicidal as I'm ever likely to get (hopefully).

Please dont let that put you off however - it has worked successfully for several others too and as Monsta stated, each and every psychiatric medication affects people in rather unpredictable manners. For me, if I wasnt sleeping my life away (a situation I never want to be again) I was eating, generally chocolate digestives, classic bars, crunchies...all that sugary loveliness washed down with a cuppa tea or three. An experience, though not necessarily one I needed. I've had it with psychiatric medications - if anything they were inclined to hault my progress.
 
Eeeep that sounds horrible endless :(

I just don't understand how practically everyone I've chatted with that has been on Mirtazapine raves about how it totally fucking floors you when it comes to sedation :?
Even on quite a high dose, it did very little.
And now I'm on Amitriptyline - Now THAT fucking floors me!
But there's a C.O.A* when it comes to taking it and expecting sleep:

Wait an hour or so after dinner (let's say 7pm) and then take it, no more Caffeine for the night (I suggest Chamomile Tea as an alternative) and occupy your brain with some crappy TV or a book - Just make sure you're not over-stimulating yourself. Well, I'm sure everyone knows the fucking sleep hygiene list, just add that in there lol.

You should start to feel drowsy around 9-10pm. Then get into bed and you'll feel yourself becoming increasingly drowsy then that will turn into being knocked the fuck out man! =D

One more thing! Make sure you've got at the very least 1 litre of water / juice at arms reach as fuuuuuck it seriously dries the mouth out. Even your sinus passage ways actually.

*Course Of Action
 
Monsta me old china

I was prescribed Amitriptyline years ago & i fukin hated it . Loads of side effects grogginess just a pure nightmare . They were yellow tablets it's so long ago i can't remember the dose but i remember the effect & i didn't like it .

I take it you find them beneficial . How do you find that the good effects out weigh the side effects .
 
Brimzy my bull in my china shop ;)

If they were yellow then they may have been 25mg maybe? Mine are orange and are 50mg ( 3 at night).
Like we've all said - horses for courses innit. Sorry they didn't agree with you mate <3

I find taking them earlier in the evening gets rid of some of the morning grogginess, and the dry mouth sucks but it's the only one that's been able to help with all my psychological ailments (depression, all sorts of anxieties, insomnia etc etc. and possibly with my psychosomatic pain).
 
I've had a really shit few weeks overall (with a few good things), im cutting off all use of all substances for the next few weeks to see if that makes any difference (incl caffiene), last 2 weeks sometimes i've been unable to get myself out of bed in the morning if i've had something to do, when i wake up i'm in blind panic. fuck speaking about it even typing it makes me feel pathetic, i take the easy option and stay in bed even covers over head shit sometimes, i feel like a kid :(
i'm okay with my drug useage atm, breif dance with opis which of course make everything fantastic but not gonna let myself go down that path.

But anxiety which i though i'd improved on has really fucked me over last 2 weeks, since bailing on rehab a few months ago iv been doing volunteer work n non accredited college courses n the like and staying relatively clean, bit of mxe tonight so im sorry if this post is a bit disjointed, odd bit of md or a drink here n there n a few benzos..
..but they have fuck all effect when i wake up in blind panic. Led to me missing voluntary work today, and 3 out of 4 of the last days i was meant to be doing (1 day a week on this particular volunteer thing, so done 1 day in a month i spose). The lass working there is really understanding which helps but yeah.. missing last lesson of non accredited college course yesterday (though im hoping to continue it next term). Hopefully il be able to get to the last lesson other course on Friday but shit i dunno what to do atm about the anxiety, its killing me, its when i wake up mainly and nothing will help, i cant talk myself into getting outta bed when its one of them really bad days.. i usually feel better in the afternoons n evenings.

I dunno whats triggered such a mental relapse but what should i do? was already gonna start a managing anxiety course in jan but is it severe enough to warrant phoning my GP? Need to get it under control cause im starting a few more volunteer things come jan, some of em important n i really can't bail on :/
 
Really sorry to hear that things have taken a fall of late CK :(

Jeeez man I can whole-heartedly relate - You wake up and instantly your mind goes "Oh not today please... Fuck off today! :| and you try and hide from, not really the day, but the reality upon waking.
And this extends to having stuff to do on any given day. There's a psychological term for it but I can't remember....
Basically it's that you have the wish, desire and will to perform the task, but when it comes to doing it.. It's like your brain shuts down and you just can't.

Lol - Trying to explain that to someone else is, for the most part, completely useless as they'll say something idiotic like "Well go and bloody do it then" but we both know that it's not as easy as that. Infact it can be daunting and even when you have a go and you can't get into the flow of it then you just reiterate those feelings of being worthless and uselss - Even though this could not be further from the truth!

What substances (Caffeine aside) are you placing on your sabbatical list may I ask?
And is there anything - anything at all - that could have exasperated the anxiety so badly of late?

I'd definitely recommend going to se your GP. One who you trust and like and one who trusts and likes you (it's really hard to even find the right GP who understands what you're going through).
I know it's not a long-term solution but it may help purely by getting you out there and facing the world again: 5mg of Diazepam to take upon waking up so you can dampen the anxiety enough to get to your volunteering work (which is really fantastic by the way man :) ).

I hope I was of some use mate <3 Much love and good luck!
 
Cheers, even today its taken me till 3 to get myself outta bed and i dont have owt to do today, though i spose i didnt get any sleep till 7 so i've got a reasonable excuse lol, & bang on, when it come to doing it i just cant.. i was told at cbt years ago that you only have a certain amount of adrenalin so a panic attack cant last that long which proved true enough when i used to get em out n about, if i actually manage to get out im normally okay though its when i first wake up and it lasts for hours and hours at a level consistant with a panic attack ime..

The only thing i can think of is a few small methadone binges, maybe that got me used to feeling 24/7 comfy again and thats what makes reality nasty, apart from that & 1 or 2 bags of gear in the last few months all i really have used drug wise is sometime benzos, though they literally make so noticable difference for it. Bit of mxe last night and occasionaly a drink on a weekend, apart from that cleaner than i've been for years

Tried taking benzos when i wake up, tried 2mg etiz 2mg clonaz etc etc and it just doesnt help mentally at all guess thats karma for past abuse. Had been taking some days modafinil for extra energy buut thats mainly been with exercise so i can push myself further.

Misread that one lol to really cut out for me i think are benzos & opiates all round starting when i woke up, easier said than done but yeah gonna try it for a few weeks at least and see if it helps. Doesnt help that my gp since i was little, fantasic with all medial matters & been one of the few people i can be truely honest with about my substance use (she was also a gp for a drug service) has moved on to work full time in drug services but your post gave me the push to just pick up the phone and make an appointment for monday so thanks alot mate :) <3
 
I know the feeling well man :\
The only thing I can find myself doing during a panic attack is to make a cup of tea really slowly and meticulously and doing prana yoga breathing (worth looking up) but in the end you've just got to ride it out ay - Make it "as comfortable" as possible (aka. Just try make it as un-horrible as possible) and wait 8(

I reckon that the recent complete stopping of all substances (the Opiates and Benzos especially) will be acting towards your recent troubles.
And using Modafinil so you don't have to sleep and pushing yourself with exercise will definitely be causing adverse effects. You desperately need sleep and relaxation during this process!
Ofcourse - Exercise is good for you and helping during Opiate withdrawal, but too much plus Modafinil - ergo: little sleep, this will be causing problems.

Gah that sucks about your previous GP! But it's great that you've made an appt. mate :) And remember if you don't find one that understands straight away, then try another (and another and another and another) if it doesn't work out - You'll find a good one eventually ;)

Good luck man :)~<3
 
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Are there any anti-anxiety medications out there that are also indicated for treating OCD and aren't going to make me withdraw like a cunt when I forget to renew my script, or stop me enjoying sex in any way ever? I know forgetting is stupid, but I am dyspraxic as hell and my memory is but, well, a memory.
 
I know SSRI's are widely used for OCD but they definitely have some brutal w/d's. And are known for reducing sex drive/enjoyment. Not really what you'd be after then probably, Snoll-de-Roll. I know they're often what's scripted for OCD though.
 
I don't think there's a magic bullet atm Snolls :(. Of course if you ever feel seriously bad there are treatments but so often the side effects are worse than the disease in the long term.

Personally, I use prescribed and illicit drugs in rotation when things are bad ( to avoid addictions )and random downers or dissociatives if I feel balanced but fancy a treat.

This approach, self medicating basically, is proving to be the healthiest and least troublesome treatment plan I have tried in the 17 years that I have sought help for periodic bouts of black depression. You need to build a larder though. :D

Ed: Oh and meditation Snolls. Its brilliant for centering my mind when my thoughts are all scattered.
 
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Shambles said:
I know SSRI's are widely used for OCD but they definitely have some brutal w/d's. And are known for reducing sex drive/enjoyment. Not really what you'd be after then probably, Snoll-de-Roll. I know they're often what's scripted for OCD though.
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Now i'm worried. Fucked the 3 three times yearly wifey,thing'missus,whacked one off more than once..........WHITHDRAWALS!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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monstanoodle said:
I know the feeling well man :\
The only thing I can find myself doing during a panic attack is to make a cup of tea really slowly and meticulously and doing prana yoga breathing (worth looking up) but in the end you've just got to ride it out ay - Make it "as comfortable" as possible (aka. Just try make it as un-horrible as possible) and wait 8(

I reckon that the recent complete stopping of all substances (the Opiates and Benzos especially) will be acting towards your recent troubles.
And using Modafinil so you don't have to sleep and pushing yourself with exercise will definitely be causing adverse effects. You desperately need sleep and relaxation during this process!
Ofcourse - Exercise is good for you and helping during Opiate withdrawal, but too much plus Modafinil - ergo: little sleep, this will be causing problems.

Gah that sucks about your previous GP! But it's great that you've made an appt. mate :) And remember if you don't find one that understands straight away, then try another (and another and another and another) if it doesn't work out - You'll find a good one eventually ;)

Good luck man :)~<3
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Mate just wondering if you got any idea how honest i should be, generally i would be 100% honest with the old one but different gp = different prejudices, i mean if i said i only ever felt propely comfortable on an opiate she'd take that the wrong way, wheras my old one would completely understand what i meant yaknow? She'd know i wouldnt expect any kinda abusable drug off her just real n honest advice with situations that shes familiar with. not really expecting much, but meant to be teaching in jan and got most of the week free for the next month or so so lord knows i need a fucking miracle, the teaching would do wonders for me but atm i know i woudlnt be able to face it, even though getting outta bed n going to the gym made me feel a fuckton better for half an hour earlier.

what vexes me most is its just my mind, not a illness not a terminal thing just my fucking head which is stopping me, nowt else :@ and aye whoever said about concentrating oin your breathing i do that alot and try and block everything else out, works quite well
 
Anyone on here taken Buspar/Buspirone, non-benzo anxiolytic with no withdrawal symptoms?

Supposed to be picking up a script tomorrow.

EDIT - Seems to synergise with antidepressants after reading various reports. Zero recreational value which is a good thing because i am not looking anything to abuse. We'll see how it goes.
 
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Fuck it, i'm done with sertraline. I just feel that it is just not doing anything anymore. I stopped about a week ago and feel no side effects from stopping cold turkey after some months on 200 mgs. The early days it kinda smoothed things out a bit,a kind of inner calm and after reading some horrendous stories about stopping, i've decided they are just not worth it.

My old shrink was very good, very on the ball. Starting to see a new psychiatric nurse on the 21st of March and go from there. I am more than happy to stick with the olanzapine and buspirone. We'll see.
 
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Anyone on here taken Buspar/Buspirone, non-benzo anxiolytic with no withdrawal symptoms?

Supposed to be picking up a script tomorrow.

EDIT - Seems to synergise with antidepressants after reading various reports. Zero recreational value which is a good thing because i am not looking anything to abuse. We'll see how it goes.
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Was scripted it years ago and is pretty much how you describe. Aside from having no w/d symptoms cos it does have w/d symptoms. Obviously you need to be taking a lot and/or for a long time to get those though. Is decent enough stuff, mind, and does go well with benzos/opies. Don't recall it doing much with the antidep I was on at the time (Seroxat/paroxetine) though.
 
Erm... there is withdrawal from Buspar/Buspirone. Docs always say there's no w/d when they prescribe stuff that produces w/d. They usually call it "discontinuation syndrome" instead. Still, it's nowhere near as bad as SSRI/SNRI w/d or benzo w/d, I suppose. Handy lil script is buspirone. Nowt earthshaking but well worth having around. Good luck with 'em - hope they do the trick for ya <3
 
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