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The EADD Mental Health Support Thread

kace said:
Yeah, I thought they would initially put me on diazepam due to the long half life, had no idea it was blacklisted. I was surprised that none of the pharamacies had even heard of xanax/ alprazolam! Had to spell it out and explain what it was. Ended up seeing an out of hours doctor at the hospital, he prescribed me with 28 2mgs of diazepam for the weekend. Not sure how many I'm supposed to take, but isn't 2mgs extremely weak? He said that now he's seen me and knows I'm not just trying to drug fiend, if the doseage isn't enough I can just go back and they would up the prescription. Win!

I hope the G.P who prescribed me xanax doesn't get in shit for it! She was very young, I'll feel so bad if she does, she was just trying to help.
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I guess if you were taking 4-6mg etizolam a day thats meant to be equivalent to 40-60mg of diazepam a day. I'm not entirely convinced that 1mg etizolam really is the equivalent of 10mg of diazepam though, I found diazepam a bit stronger personally, it makes me feel more noticeably high. 6mg diazepam was still quite a strong dose for me even when I'd previously been taking 10mg+ of etizolam a day, whereas 4mg wasn't quite enough.

The 2mg tablets are fairly handy to have though and give you some flexibility with spreading the dosing out - did they suggest how often to take them through the day or anything? I used to take it 3 times a day, with the afternoon dose a bit smaller, and never really found myself craving it too much that way.

You ought to survive the weekend now anyway :)
 
atm23 said:
^^^

You snorted what ??? sorry to lazy to review all your posts to work out what.

Kace - 2mgs seems very low but this is mainly because in recreational use 10mgs is the norm, but it may well be enough to hold you for the time being, I'd start with one of those and only take more of you feel uncomfortable. My guess would be that it would certainly stave off any of the really nasty effects of benzo WDs
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I suggested Beta Blockers to my GP yesterday and his prescribed them no problems...maybe next time I'll think of something a bit more exotic:)
 
Hmmm.... I was sure that Alprazolam could be prescribed in the UK, so I checked aaaaand:
They're on the NHS direct page but other sources have said that it's no longer scripted here....
Tis a bit odd, but then again they don't prescribe Carisoprodol anymore and it wasn't too long ago that they were.

atm - Here's hoping that the Beta Blockers work out mate :) And aye, why not ask for something a bit more relaxing next time ;) Hehe
 
Atm hope the beta blockers work well for you too. :)

Tdlr? Ah yeah the diazepam has been amazing. Wish I had read all of your posts before. I guess I've been overdoing them a bit. Finsished the 28 packet by Monday, then went back to the gp and they upped it to 5mgs. It's hard not to abuse them, I feel so much better. All the nasty symptomsb have gone. I can leave my house without having a panic attack, and got a job interview and another job. Apparently I was a state last night. I'm so embarrassed. I was on benzos, drunk, then took a fat rock of MDMA. Completely underestimated the doseage. Apparently I was talking to people that weren't there, gurned my face so bad I had blood coming from my mouth and had 5 second memory. I looked pretty happy tho from the pics? Lol I'm such a half functional mess.

Also the doctor gave me a prescription for beta blockers. Haven't done much research but from when I recall they lessen the physical anxiety symptoms? That would be great. But I bet there's shit side effects.
 
I was given beta-blockers (inderall) for both migraine prophylaxis and easing a benzo taper (diaz sure isn't blacklisted where I am, but I'm lucky to be registered with a practise that works closely with the local drug services, in a part of the country where a lot of foundational harm minimsation work was done). Anyway: I found the beta-blockers useless for migraines, but they do counter-act physical symptoms of anxiety. The side-effect profile's pretty extensive, though, and they're also habit-forming, so though I keep some on hand for emergencies, I don't take them every day. They left me feeling spacey and irritable, and I had some difficulty concentrating on them.

And I also don't buy the idea that 1mg etizolam = 10mgs diaz. The claim that it's 5-6x as powerful, mg for mg, for anxiolysis is a lot more in line with my experience, but even the EU-manufactured Depas and Pasaden 1mg pills aren't as strong as prescription 10mg diazepams.

Booze always seems to make tapering harder, for me, if I let it go beyond a few drinks, a few times a week, but everyone's mileage varies. I never understood how people could mix booze and MDXX - even a single beer in my system used to ruin pills completely (wouldn't come up at all), though in later years, I found clean MDXX was just attenuated, rather than completely wasted, with booze in my system.
 
fao brimz

Brimz,hope is all ok.

I remember you posting a thread stating you may have brain damage,but believe you were given an all clear?

Were you properly tested for this?

The reason i ask is my first visit to shrink,he said i have brain damage due to years of substance abuse.

Although maybe a scare tactic,the weeks,months,leading up to me losing my job and writing off 2 cars,YES 2,i didn't mention the second one,it just sounds too unbelievable,my behaviour was becoming increasingly erratic.

I believe this was caused by my mental breakdown.

How can anyone just say you have brain damage? Maybe i have some degree of brain damage.Four years (early thirties)of complete abstinance may have replenished some damage. I think ineed to go to a group therapy kind of thing,aswell as psychiatric help.
 
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knockando said:
Anyone else use kratom medicinally? It's probably bad form to be using an opioid to treat my mood but I do, and I have to say it's amazing. Wake up feeling like shit, shove 5g down my throat and within an hour I feel like a finely-tuned member of the human race. I try to space out my use, once every two or three days, keeps tolerance down and I've not had much in the way of WDs.
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I order no more than 100 grams at a time,with breaks in between. Careful using it just to feel 'normal'.

I don't take it in the morning,afternoon early evening.I love it,makes me feel relaxed and content.You don't wanna be scoffing 50 grams to feel finely tuned.
 
I've never even tried Kratom, might have to give it a go, SL he said 5gs not 50, how do you take it Knock ?

I'm taking Propranolol, not a lot 10mgs twice a day and I'm reducing my Venlafaxine in the hope I can get off the stuff.

The first 3 days were hell, screaming headache tiredness and I had the weirdest dream in a good while, seems to have settled down now though, it may have been more the every other day halving of my AD dose. I'm hoping to drop to 75mgs of AD daily in a week or so, I'm keen to try life without them now I think they have served their purpose and it's time to move on.

Tried some Etiz the other week, shouldn't have done really and ended up loosing control of them and binging the lot, not keen myself they didn't bring sleep and were generally underwhelming. Mind you I've done benzos to death so my brain must be pretty much fried in that area, shan't bother again I find the odd Xanax much more appealing.
 
gaaaaah,misinterpretations,i know where ya coming from.I know knock said 5 grams,what i mean is,i hope his intake doesn't up anymore than it is. If i had said 70 grams,you know what i mean? Peeps out their with daily multiple intake to feel 'normal'.

Let's not demonise this heroin ;) substitute any more than i just have.oh bollox.

CAFFEINE KILLS and has more kick than kratom.
 
atm23 said:
I've never even tried Kratom, might have to give it a go, SL he said 5gs not 50, how do you take it Knock ?
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I take my 5g and mix it thoroughly in to a citrus-flavoured yoghurt then eat it on an empty stomach. This does an excellent job of masking the taste, I've tried toss 'n' wash and it's absolutely foul. Still takes effect very quickly, feel it within half an hour.

Scrooloose, thanks for your concern, and you're right that being silly with it will lead to tolerance and dependence, possibly withdrawals. I can't remember the last time I took it more than once in a day though, or took more than about 7g. Higher doses don't really feel any stronger to me, and I never really feel the need to redose in a day.

(btw caffeine is definitely weaker!)
 
Anyone here tried Mirtazapine ? It sounds like it could be ideal for me. My GP isnt keen on me swapping from my current sertraline to that though, as she thinks id have to taper down the sert first, then wait a couple of weeks, before starting the Mirt.

I know that is the case for changing some ADs, but according to Wiki, you can take both of these concurrently. How can i mention that to my GP without coming across as an arrogant "i know more about it than you " plonker 8(
 
If yoiu feel the sertraline isn,t helping you've nothing to lose.

Ga ve me what felt like a frontal lbotomy and thaT fucking fly in the ointment akathisia. It sedated me and made me restless push me pull you,i just could not keep still or relax but found the sedation strong.

I tolerate SSRI'S MUCH BETTER IT SEEMS.i'M sticking with the sertraline,kind of helps probd better if i stop bingeing,not the sertraline,other crap.
 
atm23 said:
Tried some Etiz the other week, shouldn't have done really and ended up loosing control of them and binging the lot, not keen myself they didn't bring sleep and were generally underwhelming. Mind you I've done benzos to death so my brain must be pretty much fried in that area, shan't bother again I find the odd Xanax much more appealing.
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Underwhelming is definitely the word for my experiences with it.
I thought that it may be because I've got such a high and long-spread tolerance to Benzos and that tolerance to them can take months, if not a year, to be back to almost baseline.
But if we're going by the notion of 1mg Etiz = ~10mg Diaz then I must have either tried fakes - filled with Diphenhydramine or something (or nothing!) - or that they're just rather shit as far as Benzos go.

Give me 20mg of Diazepam over 5mg of Etizolam any day.
 
scrooloose said:
Brimz,hope is all ok.

I remember you posting a thread stating you may have brain damage,but believe you were given an all clear?

Were you properly tested for this?

The reason i ask is my first visit to shrink,he said i have brain damage due to years of substance abuse.

Although maybe a scare tactic,the weeks,months,leading up to me losing my job and writing off 2 cars,YES 2,i didn't mention the second one,it just sounds too unbelievable,my behaviour was becoming increasingly erratic.

I believe this was caused by my mental breakdown.

How can anyone just say you have brain damage? Maybe i have some degree of brain damage.Four years (early thirties)of complete abstinance may have replenished some damage. I think ineed to go to a group therapy kind of thing,aswell as psychiatric help.
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Here is the last post i made on that subject


http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/615691-Brain-Damage?p=10439724&viewfull=1#post10439724

Thanks for Enquiring . Any ? s just ask . It's pretty complex stuff tbh & i believe that it was like a big exercise to scare me sometimes.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Anyone here tried Mirtazapine ? It sounds like it could be ideal for me. My GP isnt keen on me swapping from my current sertraline to that though, as she thinks id have to taper down the sert first, then wait a couple of weeks, before starting the Mirt.

I know that is the case for changing some ADs, but according to Wiki, you can take both of these concurrently. How can i mention that to my GP without coming across as an arrogant "i know more about it than you " plonker 8(
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Yep I have!
Made me suicidal! lol....
But it's a blessing for some and a curse for others - Like all [Add Psychoactive Substances Here] are: It's all subjective and you won't know if it'll work until you've tried it.
Though, sometimes, if you've tried - and have had success - from a substance that's either in the "same family" or acts practically the same then you may have some success with the latter one.
BUT! I don't mean that purely one Antidep is an SNRI that the other SNRI will be completely the same, there's still strength of affinities to receptors and all sorts to comprehend.

Anyway! Just say to your GP that you've been doing some research on alternatives and, even though you know a great deal of the internet is full of shit (likely the whole of my post lol) that it would be worth giving a go :)
Honestly: The amount of times I've suggested a med to my GP, as fucking lovely and amazing as she is, she still picks up her Big Book of Magic Psychoactive Substances and has a read about them.

So don't worry about whether you ask them a question about a certain med ;)
 
Yer quite welcome mate - I hope things go well for you :)
And please remember that you have the full support of "da BL fam dem!" to rely on if you need a natter ;) <3
 
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