The EADD aMT Thread ver: 2

[eclipsedesign]

^ Hippy bollocks :D

 

[discopupils]

^ Hippy bollocks :D

QFT "I'll only have drugs that'll come from the ground" blaaaaaaaa blaaaaaaaaa blaaa

 

[Scoobied77]

Hi there,

After reading through this thread I'm tempted to give aMT a try.

I'm pretty seasoned to the drugs scene and tried most things over the last 16+ years, mdma being my favourite . Have not had a decent buzz for a while and looking for something to wet my appetite. Pretty fed up with whats available at the moment as most substances seem to disappoint. My last decent'ish substance was mdpv which I enjoyed for a while, done the whole drone experience last year which was good at the time. Sounds funny but with having a break for a while has been nice, but really starting to crave a decent buzz again (especially now summer has arrived and the parties are starting to happen! I'm not a fool to drugs and have respect for them all, but always looking for new things to try.

I see it's quite a active substance in small amounts which I like so thats all good.

So is this worth giving a go as I'm getting bored with waiting for 6-APB (but hoping to try soon fingers crossed)

Any advice would be cool.

 

[I NUK3D U]

^ yeah I would definitely recommend it. One of the better things available at the moment.

 

[bresker]

This stuff is meant to stink like a manure heap, yeah?

Ok, I'll agree about the scales. I overdosed heavily yesterday. Was unfortunately very lucid while absolutely off my face. Absurd visuals, but a feeling like I was hit over the head by a serotonin sledgehammer. Like taking 20 doses of MDMA.

Today - started off on a much smaller dose. Then waited 4 hours and repeated. Interesting. Actually, highly enjoyable. I wil stick to wee tiny doses from now on.

 

[jinx9000]

^how much was the whopper dose at a guess, sounds good

 

[ugh1979]

Aye, I will try an allergy dose but then I will jump right into ~50mg. It has been mentioned a few times in this thread that with the HCL 50-60mg is a good shout, a few folk have said that with lower doses the negatives outweigh the positives etc, no-one has pulled them up on this & said otherwise, no-one has been given a hard time for saying shit like that.

I feel you're getting at me a bit purely because I don't want to buy another set of scales that can show a weight as varying wildy, therefore not accurate in the slightest. I'm sure it's even been mentioned previously that mg scales at 20 odd quid are always going to be shite because you're talking over £100 for a decent set of mg scales.

Are there any reports of ~100mg amt being taken?

I mentioned taking 100mg a few weeks ago a few pages ago.

Can't say it made any difference to 50mg. Zero visuals for me as well on this stuff, even at that dose. I had them a little the first time I took aMT but both times after that, nothing (always 50mg). Very nice level of euphoria and music appreciation though so all good as that's what I'm after mainly.

The 100mg I took was after being on it for about 30 hours already so was probably a bit of a waste and not a great reference but I'll certainly be trying 100mg from the start at some point though to see how it is.

 

[Vurtual]

^ I suspect that doing 100mg may have hit you harder after a week break. I've noticed definite tolerance build-up with amt when i do multiple doses over short periods (like every couple of days) - the effect is still there, but visuals and euphoria get less intense on subsequent doses. Also the lovely afterglow which i got when i first tried gets less and less after each try (brain juice depletion i s'pose).

To get the best out of it i think you need to leave at least a week between doses (but it's so hard when it's so nice...))

 

[parttime crackhead]

Folk weren't lying about the no comedown thing. I feel fantastic today. A bit tired but that's to be expected seeing as I've barely slept since Sunday.

We split a bag of what was meant to be 250mg into 7. I was intending doing around 50mg but it looked like a lot more than 250mg when I emptied the bag so decided to be a bit cautious. I'll definitely go for more next time. It was great but I felt like it could have been better, wasn't anywhere near as trippy as I' have liked. Strange how it seemed to keep switching from slight 2c-i style trippiness to MDMA style rushy euphoria & back again.

The comeup was brutal for me though, I had a fucked stomach before taking it & after 45 mins or so I started to feel pretty ill, cold sweats, feeling nauseous. Eventually spewed in a bin in my mate's bedroom lol. Took almost 2 hours for the shit feeling to go away, then it felt amazing. My stomach still felt a bit dodgy the whole time but I'd put that down to the fact it was feeling dodgy before I took the stuff. My mate was fine, he felt a wee bit rough on the come-up but didn't need to spew at all.

We rolled about his house for another hour or 2 then went a walk up to a girl's house where a few of them were drinking. It was a little bit confusing at first trying to talk to drunk people but not too bad. I must have looked fucked up though, my pupils were fucking massive! Went back to my mate's about another 3 hours later & sat & watched Planet Earth for about 6 hours, still feeling mad stimulated. Couldn't close my eyes for more than two seconds even though I felt pretty exhausted. Eventually fell asleep for 3 hours or so then trekked home. Been lazing about the house all day, ate dinner no bother & feel great now.

I can't wait to get back on it. I'd like to get a set of scales in first though to actually know how much we're taking.

 

[I NUK3D U]

^ yeah careful, vendor of this is giving about 10-20% extra product so scales essential. Having said that, it's quite a forgiving substance.

I've heard so many different reports of visuals vs. non-visuals, even at high doses. Some have them overwhelmingly, others none at all.

I wonder whether someone much cleverer than I could comment on this? - I can't believe that this substance naturally effects people that much differently. My un-educated guess is that a lot of it has to with rate of absorbtion, which of course is altered dramatically by the contents of your stomach before and during the session (including food / alcohol etc.) I wonder also whether there are any obvious potentiators to the visuals? Any normal smokers out there have anything to report? - I for one found that standing outside and smoking a normal cigarette would bring on a small wave of visuals...

 

[The RZA]

Folk weren't lying about the no comedown thing. I feel fantastic today. A bit tired but that's to be expected seeing as I've barely slept since Sunday.

We split a bag of what was meant to be 250mg into 7. I was intending doing around 50mg but it looked like a lot more than 250mg when I emptied the bag so decided to be a bit cautious. I'll definitely go for more next time. It was great but I felt like it could have been better, wasn't anywhere near as trippy as I' have liked. Strange how it seemed to keep switching from slight 2c-i style trippiness to MDMA style rushy euphoria & back again.

The comeup was brutal for me though, I had a fucked stomach before taking it & after 45 mins or so I started to feel pretty ill, cold sweats, feeling nauseous. Eventually spewed in a bin in my mate's bedroom lol. Took almost 2 hours for the shit feeling to go away, then it felt amazing. My stomach still felt a bit dodgy the whole time but I'd put that down to the fact it was feeling dodgy before I took the stuff. My mate was fine, he felt a wee bit rough on the come-up but didn't need to spew at all.

We rolled about his house for another hour or 2 then went a walk up to a girl's house where a few of them were drinking. It was a little bit confusing at first trying to talk to drunk people but not too bad. I must have looked fucked up though, my pupils were fucking massive! Went back to my mate's about another 3 hours later & sat & watched Planet Earth for about 6 hours, still feeling mad stimulated. Couldn't close my eyes for more than two seconds even though I felt pretty exhausted. Eventually fell asleep for 3 hours or so then trekked home. Been lazing about the house all day, ate dinner no bother & feel great now.

I can't wait to get back on it. I'd like to get a set of scales in first though to actually know how much we're taking.

How long did it last in total Crackhead?

 

[parttime crackhead]

How long did it last in total Crackhead?

Took it about 9:30. Had came up properly buy about 11:30. I was still bingoed at 3am. Watched a shit load of Planet Earth, I kept thinking it had wore off & I was just left wide awake as if I'd been taking speed the night before or something but then the dunt would come back again. I was definitely still felling it at 8am & continued to feel wide awake, unable to shut my eyes for more than 2 seconds until about 11am. I reckon if we'd had a load of grass to fire in to when we were lying about watching telly we could have slept well earlier though. Those times could be a mile out tbh, I wasn't exactly checking the time much.

It was never really overwhelming at all, quite easy to wander about & act half normal. We had stupid big trippy faces on though, massive eyes & daft grins lol. When we bounced up to that bird's house no-one really thought we were that bad, just assumed we'd been drinking & apart from one point when my mate got left in a room himself for 10 minutes & he started shouting about how he'd thought the cat walking past was a person dancing they wouldn't have clicked that we were tripping if we hadn't told them (the folk there weren't really into drugs that much, I'd think it would be more obvious to some of my other mates). As I said previously though, I don't feel like I took enough. I can imagine we would have been more blatantly out our nuts on a slightly higher dose.

All in all it's was fun & I'd definitely want to do it again as soon as possible really. The only thing is I wouldn't have wanted to have taken it around lots of people. There was only two of us, both on it, during the come-up. I wouldn't have liked to have been sitting spewing in a bin on a bedroom floor with lots of other folk around lol.

 

[tranceaddict84]

Anyone know whether aMT is water (or vodka) soluble? My scales are pretty accurate but they're only to 0.01g so I was thinking of buying 250mg, confirming its weight to the nearest ~10mg then dissolving the whole lot in say 100ml of water. Could then accurately measure say 20ml of the solution and have a very accurate idea of dosage.

Also it sounds like mixing it with ket could be very fun, maybe on the tail end of the high -- anyone tried this?

 

[The RZA]

Sounds like a pretty good night mate.

Keeping mine back for a visit to some mates in Wales in a month or two so it'll be getting necked early doors (around mid day) and we'll be out in the boonies on it so should be interesting!

 

[The RZA]

Anyone know whether aMT is water (or vodka) soluble? My scales are pretty accurate but they're only to 0.01g so I was thinking of buying 250mg, confirming its weight to the nearest ~10mg then dissolving the whole lot in say 100ml of water. Could then accurately measure say 20ml of the solution and have a very accurate idea of dosage.

Also it sounds like mixing it with ket could be very fun, maybe on the tail end of the high -- anyone tried this?

I believe the HCL is perfectly soluble for liquid dosing.

Never had ket so wouldn't know, sorry.

 

[I NUK3D U]

the ket combo 'sounds' good, and I'd probably try it myself , but I have no idea of the chemical interactions. To be honest, you're probably best just combining ket with a pure euphoric stim, like MDMA (or other lesser substances). The ket trip would probably override whatever you could get from the aMT in terms of trip/visuals.

I think GZero may have had this combo recently, albeit with a shite load of other stuff invovled (it was a good night ) - might be worth asking him first.

 

[Vurtual]

I find that amt has a certain amount of dissociative effects in itself - nothing massive, but i get that slightly detached-from-my-senses feeling (like a low dose of ket) when i'm coming up (dunno what this says towards a ket combo).

I think the variation in visuals reported is fairly normal for psychedelics; just differently wired brains; suggestibility etc.. Probably something to do with how people define visuals as well (maybe some people wouldn't think they had visuals unless they actually see pink elephants (or whatever))

I've only had slight open-eye visuals (on 50 mg - slight patterning around the edges of things, clouds looking a bit like fractals (yeah i know they are)), but the trip has been mostly about feelings and thoughts for me anyway.

 

[ugh1979]

^ yeah careful, vendor of this is giving about 10-20% extra product so scales essential. Having said that, it's quite a forgiving substance.

Are you sure? Mine has always been spot on. Bear in mind that the label on the bags weighs .2g. I thought i'd gotten .2 extra until I figured that one out.

I've heard so many different reports of visuals vs. non-visuals, even at high doses. Some have them overwhelmingly, others none at all.

I wonder whether someone much cleverer than I could comment on this? - I can't believe that this substance naturally effects people that much differently. My un-educated guess is that a lot of it has to with rate of absorbtion, which of course is altered dramatically by the contents of your stomach before and during the session (including food / alcohol etc.) I wonder also whether there are any obvious potentiators to the visuals? Any normal smokers out there have anything to report? - I for one found that standing outside and smoking a normal cigarette would bring on a small wave of visuals...

Yeah I'm interested in this too. It does seem very strange how different it can effect people. I've always taken it on an empty stomach and I don't smoke cigarettes or weed.

 

[ugh1979]

Does anyone have any ideas on how I can stop my friend from being violently sick for hours and hours on this? He's tried it twice, once oral and once rectal admin and it's made no difference at all. Even after the 2 hours typical come up time he's still felt sick on and off for the entire duration.

Smoking it isn't really an option but I was hoping there is some other legally obtainable drug which might help him.

I personally get zero nausea but it's really ruining my buzz with him being sick all the time!

 

[Bella Figura]

Re: people reacting differently its been pretty well documented, nothing to do with absorption rates or smoking really:

There is quite obviously a wide range of reported effect described for a-MT, indicating much individual variability. For some it has a fast onset, for others a slow one. Some find it a good psychedelic, others are disturbed by the negative physical side-effects. This is all a bit reminiscent of harmaline, where the spectrum of responses also range from 1 to 10 on a scale of 1 to 10.

^if your friend is suffering from nausea you could try lowering the dose or trying out an anti-emetic like ginger or cannabis etc