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The EADD 3-FPM Megathread

Alright I'll add my experience to this thread. Ordered 3 grams of this recently - partially to investigate it as a future potential functional stim as my 2-fma sources are drying up (have been using that fairly frequently lately). I now realize it is not a good option for that, but I had a pretty good time with it. After ordering I started reading that it was great vaped and couldn't resist that. Bought a fresh glass "meth pipe" before it even arrived. I've have a fixation with smoking out of these little things ever since my first experience with meth; I've only smoked meth a handful of times but I've got fond memories and I definitely over-romanticize it. (I also have very not fond memories of compulsively smoking a-PVP despite the fact that it felt horrible)

Anyways I vaped through the 3 gram bag in 5 days, also in that span vaping some 5-mapb, snorting some 2-fma, plugging some ethylphenidate, vaping some mxp, and taking etizolam. And hash oil throughout (a constant for me). I was able to follow my stimulant rules of not skipping more than one night of sleep in a row, and of staying properly hydrated/nourished, but the compulsion when I was vaping this was pretty intense. I would go into my bathroom planning to vape 50 mg, but once that was done in the pipe I would pretty much automatically start weighing out another 50 mg, dumping that in, and melting it down. Until I would be like "shit you just vaped 6 bowls of that in a row! WTF are you doin?! This could kill you!" and I would have to find something else to involve myself in. I could get into doing something if I made myself, but mostly didn't have any desire to do anything. Didn't feel like playing music despite having a new instrument and recording equipment. Didn't feel like jacking off despite having downloaded a bunch of porn recently and having new fleshlight sleeves. When I wasn't vaping was mostly was on here and looking up various things about various drugs online. Considered ordering a stupid amount of 3-FPM to "stock up" which I now realize probably wouldn't have actually kept me stocked very long. Even though I was weighing my doses I completely lost track of them: at one point I weighted out the rest of my bag thinking there would be almost 2 gs left when there was really less than 1g. At that point decided to basically kill the rest as fast as I could vape to just be done with it.

Overall the feeling of the 3-FPM was good though. It was never overwhelming and at times was quite euphoric. With a lot at once, felt like it definitely had a strong effect on serotonin as well as dopamine. Other than the compulsion didn't have much negative side effects while I was using it. Nothing like the horror that is a-PVP. I wanted at first to say it was like "meth lite" but really it has its own unique character.

The day after I stopped though, I had a weird visual distortion all day where it looked like vapor was coming off of everything, like the swirling vapor of my 3-FPM pipe. Some things I could see it in really clearly, like if I looked into the sinkbowl it would seriously look like it was filling with vapor. I had vaped some mxp the night before that, but with little effect, taken some etizolam to sleep, and taken a line (~20mg) of 2-FMA in the morning. Anyways this effect was gone the next day but kind of freaked me out because I've never experienced visual aftereffects like that from anything. Maybe I was just staring into that pipe for too long (kind of like when you are driving for a long time then stop are look at a wall and it looks like the wall is moving). I don't know, but decided to cut out all the stims for a while. This is my fourth day off the 2-fma - doing pretty well.
 
Gonna add a little section to the OP later that should have been in there already now I think about it.
We're all aware of "Meth Mouth", but it ain't limited to Meth and given the compulsive inhaling of noxious vapours during a 3-F binge there is the significant worry of oral nastiness.

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It's Monday night, and I have work tomorrow.

I've managed to abstain from binging on 3-FPM, apart from taking a little last night. If I hadn't had the 4F-MPH last night, I definitely would have gone heavy on the 3-FPM.

As I discovered last night, the RI completed renedered the RA useless.

The car parts are on, and working beautifully. The rotary engine now sings beautifully to 9000rpm.

If only I had another day off.....
 
ForGreatScience said:
Alright I'll add my experience to this thread. Ordered 3 grams of this recently - partially to investigate it as a future potential functional stim as my 2-fma sources are drying up (have been using that fairly frequently lately). I now realize it is not a good option for that, but I had a pretty good time with it. After ordering I started reading that it was great vaped and couldn't resist that. Bought a fresh glass "meth pipe" before it even arrived. I've have a fixation with smoking out of these little things ever since my first experience with meth; I've only smoked meth a handful of times but I've got fond memories and I definitely over-romanticize it. (I also have very not fond memories of compulsively smoking a-PVP despite the fact that it felt horrible)

Anyways I vaped through the 3 gram bag in 5 days, also in that span vaping some 5-mapb, snorting some 2-fma, plugging some ethylphenidate, vaping some mxp, and taking etizolam. And hash oil throughout (a constant for me). I was able to follow my stimulant rules of not skipping more than one night of sleep in a row, and of staying properly hydrated/nourished, but the compulsion when I was vaping this was pretty intense. I would go into my bathroom planning to vape 50 mg, but once that was done in the pipe I would pretty much automatically start weighing out another 50 mg, dumping that in, and melting it down. Until I would be like "shit you just vaped 6 bowls of that in a row! WTF are you doin?! This could kill you!" and I would have to find something else to involve myself in. I could get into doing something if I made myself, but mostly didn't have any desire to do anything. Didn't feel like playing music despite having a new instrument and recording equipment. Didn't feel like jacking off despite having downloaded a bunch of porn recently and having new fleshlight sleeves. When I wasn't vaping was mostly was on here and looking up various things about various drugs online. Considered ordering a stupid amount of 3-FPM to "stock up" which I now realize probably wouldn't have actually kept me stocked very long. Even though I was weighing my doses I completely lost track of them: at one point I weighted out the rest of my bag thinking there would be almost 2 gs left when there was really less than 1g. At that point decided to basically kill the rest as fast as I could vape to just be done with it.

Overall the feeling of the 3-FPM was good though. It was never overwhelming and at times was quite euphoric. With a lot at once, felt like it definitely had a strong effect on serotonin as well as dopamine. Other than the compulsion didn't have much negative side effects while I was using it. Nothing like the horror that is a-PVP. I wanted at first to say it was like "meth lite" but really it has its own unique character.

The day after I stopped though, I had a weird visual distortion all day where it looked like vapor was coming off of everything, like the swirling vapor of my 3-FPM pipe. Some things I could see it in really clearly, like if I looked into the sinkbowl it would seriously look like it was filling with vapor. I had vaped some mxp the night before that, but with little effect, taken some etizolam to sleep, and taken a line (~20mg) of 2-FMA in the morning. Anyways this effect was gone the next day but kind of freaked me out because I've never experienced visual aftereffects like that from anything. Maybe I was just staring into that pipe for too long (kind of like when you are driving for a long time then stop are look at a wall and it looks like the wall is moving). I don't know, but decided to cut out all the stims for a while. This is my fourth day off the 2-fma - doing pretty well.
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Yep. I find visual ( and audial ) aberrations very common with some batches of 3fpm (and they're the batches I like). When I'm 'in the 3 zone' I see flashes, swirls, images on the wall/floor/trees/etc. (Often extremely pornographic I might add), coupled with whispering, music and random noises. That's when it's really getting good...
 
^ that sounds almost like Meth psychosis. I would be careful when it gets to that you could fuck your head up badly winding up in that place too often mate.
 
The sensory distortions are another reason I'm fairly convinced 3-FPM exhibits some activity at SERT in addition to DAT and NET - they never seem to form the typical Dopamine derived delusions and inherently persecutory nature all DRA's tend to.
They are much more flowing, more amorphous, more colourful, and certainly not formed of menacing shadow creatures.
They also seem to occur about 36-40 hours in, coincidentally the same time frame that the effects enter the tertiary "plateau", for want of a better term. Typical and nondescript stimulant ---> Empathogenic overlay ---> Sheer tweaking euphoria (The 3-zone ;) ). The contradictory sensation of complete calm whilst flying in the stratosphere is a defining feature of 3-FPM and... wait for it, Methamphetamine: the ultimate triple releasing primary stimulant.

Those sneaky lil' metabolites, eh? ;)

<3
 
This happens to me after a few days of heavy binging. I find it so blissful though. The sofa is my safe haven while I gaze out of the window at other peoples seamingly pointless lives. These moments of course are hours and hours but it just feels like time sits still. Almost like reaching the singularity. Where the arrow of time stops. Entropy doesn't exist for you.

This is why I'm so fond of 3-FPM.
 
I bet it is blissful but in terms of fucking your head up permanently that doesn't seem a good thing. I know a couple of people who took MDPV too seriously and have never been the same since, as in fully diagnosed paranoid skitzophrenia. If 3-FPM sends you to a place as FUBAR describes often I'd be weary of that, because that is psychosis. It does sound like a powerful drug in terms of stimulants, and as someone who's been fucked over by most of the traditional ones, even I would advise not binging too often. I know the price makes it very tempting, it was one of the reasons I decided not to try it lol :)
 
That's part of the point I was trying to make, 3-F doesn't seem typical in any way with relation to sleep dep. psychosis - Meth is like clockwork and almost entirely paranoid/persecutory, Coke/Crack is certainly mostly paranoid, but 3-FPM is shadow monster free and feels remarkably serotonergic after a while. (IME/YMMV/etc.)

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I'd agree with Sprout, but there have been times very late into the binge like 5 days in, and I'm certain that there are people trying to get into my car!

However, I'm never fearful of it and just laugh it off. I always remain in a good mellow mood.

However, I don't deny it being possibly damaging to the brain, but as of today. I'm certainly the same person I was before the use of 3-FPM. The only difference is the decreasing amount of expendable funds in the bank account, and ever increasing stores of 3-FPM in my lockbox.
 
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CloudStrife01 said:
I'd agree with Sprout, but there have been times very late into the binge like 5 days in, and I'm certain that there are people trying to get into my car!

However, I'm never fearful of it and just laugh it off. I always remain in a good mellow mood.

However, I don't deny it being possibly damaging to the brain, but as of today. I'm certainly the same person I was before the use of 3-FPM. The only difference is the decreasing amount of expendable funds in the bank account, and ever increasing stores of 3-FPM in my lockbox.
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I hope you're not driving 5 days into stim binge amigo?
 
Oh no sir! Walking is hard enough at this point. Sorry for the confusion.

I'm merely watching them from my front window. They never triumph though, so it's okay.

It would be funny if one very early morning, someone was actually trying to get into the car and succeeds in taking my beloved away and I'm just like "Think I need to get some sleep"
 
If after 120 hours you weren't experiencing pretty intense paranoia I would be highly surprised.
I don't think I've ever had such a fully formed psychosis experience on 3-FPM as that, it can get as paranoid as all stims do but I find it very easy to brush the thoughts off immediately, which is pretty odd in itself.

I don't think I'll ever be able to fully encapsulate the unique nature of 3-FPM using mere words. And Lord knows I've written many thousands trying to!

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F.U.B.A.R. said:
Yep. I find visual ( and audial ) aberrations very common with some batches of 3fpm (and they're the batches I like). When I'm 'in the 3 zone' I see flashes, swirls, images on the wall/floor/trees/etc. (Often extremely pornographic I might add), coupled with whispering, music and random noises. That's when it's really getting good...
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fubar, i forget, but was it you that had a medical a couple of months back and your resting bmp and other signs of vascular health wasnt too great? sorry tp be a buzzkill but im loving this shit too much and i think id like to see it past 50. though then again living to a ripe old age without 3fpm isn't a particularly appealing prospect either...
 
smackydowners said:
fubar, i forget, but was it you that had a medical a couple of months back and your resting bmp and other signs of vascular health wasnt too great? sorry tp be a buzzkill but im loving this shit too much and i think id like to see it past 50. though then again living to a ripe old age without 3fpm isn't a particularly appealing prospect either...
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I wouldn't worry about the final point. Come April (at the absolute outside) nobody of any age is going to be living with 3fpm. I personally dont go to any darknets or to any postal source that raises legal questions. I cant see there being any black market for it it either (their wasnt for phenmetrazine when it was banned alongside with speed - we all know which was the more popular drug as speed still has a black market demand 40 years later). Its just too much of a niche drug. Plus, the quality of 'genuine' 3fpm has been variable over the last 6 months, even from reliable vendors, so if black market 'phenmet' does survive it will be crap and unless they only bash it with caffeine any adulterants street dealers add to it will almost certainly mark the end for chasing / vaping this drug.

RIP 3fpm - its probably best you bow out now while we all still love you
 
Sprout said:
The sensory distortions are another reason I'm fairly convinced 3-FPM exhibits some activity at SERT in addition to DAT and NET - they never seem to form the typical Dopamine derived delusions and inherently persecutory nature all DRA's tend to.
They are much more flowing, more amorphous, more colourful, and certainly not formed of menacing shadow creatures.
They also seem to occur about 36-40 hours in, coincidentally the same time frame that the effects enter the tertiary "plateau", for want of a better term. Typical and nondescript stimulant ---> Empathogenic overlay ---> Sheer tweaking euphoria (The 3-zone ;) ). The contradictory sensation of complete calm whilst flying in the stratosphere is a defining feature of 3-FPM and... wait for it, Methamphetamine: the ultimate triple releasing primary stimulant.

Those sneaky lil' metabolites, eh? ;)

<3
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Very eloquently put Sprout, and I agree with every word you say. I've suspected from the start that some batches have more than the 'negligible effect on serotonin' quoted in the literature. My assumption is that the 4 isomers have differing affinity values and different batches have varying ratios of these isomers. This might be bollocks, but that's my hypothesis anyway.

smackydowners said:
fubar, i forget, but was it you that had a medical a couple of months back and your resting bmp and other signs of vascular health wasnt too great? sorry tp be a buzzkill but im loving this shit too much and i think id like to see it past 50. though then again living to a ripe old age without 3fpm isn't a particularly appealing prospect either...
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No, wasn't me mate. My last medical was fine - though that was a couple of years ago now.
 
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