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The EADD 2C-x Megathread

Shambles said:
Butterfly 2C-B meaning pills with a butterfly stamp, Adam? Just wondering cos if you've got your hands on 2C-B-fly you are a lucky boy cos that stuff's rare as hell.
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I'm not sure if they were refered to as 2C-B-fly but I made a report on pill reports a month ago or something with pics, They had the registered logo on back with butterfly on front like the swirls and double curve pills, same back press?

But whatever they were they were strong 2c-b! (tested green on marquis) half a pill was a 6 hour trip, plenty for most people.
 
The duration of 2C-B is around 6 hours so a 6 hour trip is to be expected after consuming it ;)

If it came as a pill, wasn't specifically sold as 2C-B-fly and didn't cost an absolute fortune it would have been 2C-B. The fly form is far too scarce to be sold unknowingly, I'd think. It's one I'd love to lay hands on cos have heard good things about it.
 
Shambles said:
The duration of 2C-B is around 6 hours so a 6 hour trip is to be expected after consuming it ;)

If it came as a pill, wasn't specifically sold as 2C-B-fly and didn't cost an absolute fortune it would have been 2C-B. The fly form is far too scarce to be sold unknowingly, I'd think. It's one I'd love to lay hands on cos have heard good things about it.
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They were going for £8-10 trade/bulk and £15 retail. I wouldn't say my sources are too knowledgeable? They seem to have access to some top supplys but honestly they don't have much of a clue :-) Also I know the duration is to be expected but not to get that full duration off half a pill :-)
 
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Hmm... that is unusually expensive for 2C-B pills. I know stamps bear no relation to contents but a butterfly logo would be perfect for 2C-B-fly. I still think it would be unlikely to be be sold as anything other than 2C-B-fly if it were though cos it really is that rare. Even in PDland very few people have ever seen the stuff. Suppose there's no way of knowing for sure though which is why I'd rather buy pure powder than pills. Wouldn't kick a 2C-B pill or two out of bed whether it was flyform or not, mind :D
 
So what does 2c-b-fly mean?

I know the chemical nickname is 2c-b of 2,5-dimethoxy-4-bromophenethylamine and the strength of dose is what matters, so is it like a brand name appropriated to a specific high strength or purity batch or a certain pill that has been around or another different substance?
 
2C-B-fly

It's not the same as 2C-B but is obviously related. It's not a brand name and is no more or less pure than 2C-B - it's a different, rarer, and highly sought after chemical. I won't pretend to know enough chemistry to know how it works but the "fly" part is fly in the same sense as Bromo-dragonfly which is the fly form of... one of the DOx (DOB?) I think.

Actually, after a quick skim of that thread it appears there's a 2C-B-dragonfly too so maybe it's not the the same process as Bromo-dragonfly. I think there are hemi-demi fly's or similar too. Chemistry is complicated. Where's f&B when you need him? =D
 
OK cool, thanks for that info. Thats enough for me to find out the chem. And I will find out if those butterflys are meant to be that.
 
Shambles said:
Boffhead: If it's genuine 2C-B (sounds like you may be in luck cos I've heard of similar sounding 2C-B pills over in Ireland recently) then your plan should be successful. If it's actually pipz being passed off as 2C-B it'll be less successful. EZ-Test can test for 2C-x, I believe :)
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Cheers mate. Don't have an EZ-test but some mates took some last night so I'll see how that went.

How strong are the expected visualizations/trippiness? I know it depends on the individual but how does it compare to say, Shrooms?

Edit: Just seen you reckon it will last about 6 hours :\ - could be a long day on Sunday / harsh day at work on Monday!
 
First time I took 2C-B (just one of the blanks that were around a coupla years back - around 15mg, I believe) I was almost delirious. Delirious in a very good way but there's no way I could have functioned in public and am very glad I ignored those who said it was just like MDMA but with a few visuals. For me it was a hell of a lot more than that 8o

Then again, I've never gotten to that stage on it since and would be fine on a similar amount at party/rave now. I find it can be almost like a dissociative in the sense that I didn't have any strong OEV but I existed in a complete fantasy world in my head. Me and Mrs Shambles spent a good while talking to imagined people and "2C-B Folk" and experienced shared hallucinations - almost like telepathic tripping.

Others have far milder effects and they would be the majority. I'd advise trying it alone or with friends in a more private situation ideally but you should be fine anyway cos it's pretty friendly and fun stuff. I hope you have a ladyfriend/fellafriend to play with too cos it's one of the best sex drugs ever. Possibly the best sex I've ever had was on the way down from that first 2C-B trip <3

PS: 2C-B has virtually no comedown, in my experience, so you should be okay the next day other than the lack of sleep. It's obviously less than ideal to have to do stuff the next day as you'll be blissed-out and basking in the afterglow, mind ;)
 
Thanks again dude. Think i'll just do it at a house rather than out cos don't wanna ruin my night or be stranded anywhere :)
 
I'd say that's probably wise, Boff. Psyches can be unpredictable lil sausages and take even the most seasoned and swirl-hardened trippers by surprise. My experience of 2C-B seems to be pretty unusual as most don't get such intensity and depth from it, but the fact that me and Mrs Shambles both had the same level of intensity suggests to me that it's not as uncommon as it would appear from reading the reports. YMMV rules the psyche world. Enjoy :)
 
^^@ boffhead.if its your 1st time to do a 2Cx drug then imo you should not mix it with other drugs and dont do it after a night club.

we have the samr pills over here in ireland i think and they pack a punch.

1mate mixed 1 with meph n 2ci and had a total freak out=ended up in a hospital at a festival.

2nd mate did 1 and took him 3hrs to come up on it.

i did 1 pill and had 4 brillant hrs in a club=the energy for dancing was unbelivable and the music sounded brilland=it was psytrance.

just be carefull with them.show them respect and njoy them.
 
^ Excellent advice, Bogman. I think a lotta people completely underestimate the power of psyches and 2Cs in particular. They can certainly be great for partying but they are also inherently unpredictable - even the "easy" ones like 2C-B. Most of the time they'll look after you and serve you well, but if you don't give them respect they can bite you. Hard.
 
im new to the 2Cx party=only joined at the end of may and i always have had fun on them and belived they were just a bit of fun and nothing heavy.

how wrong i was...a mate did 2C-D at a festival and it blew the head off him.he was like a total cabbage for a few hrs and i had a hard job minding him but he was lucky i did.
it was like he dropped 10 pills from the 90s at once.

2nd mate i mentioned above.what he went thru i would not wish on people i hate.

not to sound selfish but im lucky that happened to my mates as i had no respect to the 2Cs like i would for lsd or shrooms and was planning some stupid combos as i was thinking they were light as fuck drugs.
 
Sorry to hear about your friends' shitty experience, Bogman. Hope all is well with them <3

I definitely agree that most folks tend to underestimate 2Cs - especially the "easy" ones like 2C-B, C, D and I - and unfortunately someone somewhere tends to have to come a cropper before that fact is fully realised. Psyches are great and 2Cs are a whole big barrel o' fun and Goodness but they are still psyches and deserved to be treated with the same respect as mushrooms, acid and the rest as you say, Bogman. Good stuff, but show respect to avoid an arse-kicking.
 
Yeah, i've seen some people pretty used to trips get that expression on their face which you can just tell means they know they're about to go over the edge of the rollercoaster, and something serious is building up. One girl I know did 20-25mg of 2c-e at a festival recently, i've not heard back from her, I reckon she was probably ok once she came up, but I can imagine it was more intense than she was expecting!

I have found 2cb to be quite easy in some ways, but also a bit... hmm, well it is still definitely a psychedelic drug, and not all fun and games, i've never got near to freaking but on 10-15mg trips or so, it can still be quite... confronting. Plus oral use means the body load issues and rumbly-tummy n tension are another factor (for me anyway).

Was tempted to try 2c-i last night at a psy night, a fairly low dose, but I decided against. Could have been fine, but I think i'll try it outside on a beautiful day first and work from there. Tryin to respect 2c-* drugs cos I know people who have had their arses well and truly kicked by them hah.. :)

btw those yellow butterflies are 15mg of 2c-b supposedly, and very "pure" stuff I have heard. £10 a pop though usually, and considering I was offered 30mg of powder for that, why bother?
 
Really tempted to eat some 2ci or snort some now, as my new scales have just arrived and I want to test them out on something that I will need them for. Will probably leave it, but might end up doing it just for the sake of it :)
 
Shambles said:
Unless you've burnt out every pain receptor in your nose with meph I wouldn't snort 2C-I, Mugabe. Fuckin' ow! Stick it up yer arse ;)

Or make it into icecubes, perhaps =D
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Seems most of my pain receptors in the nasal area have been destroyed as it didn't hurt much more than meph alone. Although was a totally different type of pain 8o:!

I have still learned to associate snorting pain with the imminent feeling of being fucked so have somehow tricked myself into enjoying the pain %)=D

15mg snorted 10 minutes ago should be a fun trip for my first time with 2ci in many years. Im looking forward to it :D
 
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