Hey futura, I've loved your posts in AusDD lately, so I'll try my best to answer all your questions (plus I'm waiting 20mins for southpark to dl )
Thank you very much for the positive words. I also thank you for your own comments in addressing my points.
Not if it's in an envelope and if they came door knocking was still unopened. Packages are always signed for though AFAIK. So if you sign for something that isn't in your name that in itself is breaking the law. The fact that it contains illegal drugs they would no doubt be able to pin you for. If it was in a simple envelope (as I've been told plenty of SR stuff is for small quantities, I am unsure as I've never used SR), then I would always wait a few days before opening and fiending on my drugs, keep an eye out for any suspicious vehicle, and if cops should come door knocking I would simply say that someone came to pick up their mail.
I think most of the SR stuff is sent by standard mail? I dont know I would be interested if someone can confirm this. I think if a drug dealer were using a courier or some kind of registration this would present risks of identification. I think for small pill orders etc they just chuck it in standard mail boxes. much harder to trace this way. I guess for large orders more effort would be made with discuise and possible courier. I would be very certain these vendors operate in cities for discuise by numbers reasons.
The theory of if you do or dont open the envelope is an interesting debate. If you dont open the envelope this would appear as suspicious in a sense its more incriminating.
Perhaps it would be less incriminating to open the envelope and throw it in the "bin" leave it in the "bin" for a few days.
Not sure about signing a "wrong named" envelope. I am not sure if this is a crime if it is to your own address. Would be a very easy "mistake" to make. Maybe you signed incase it was the neighbours?
This would be very true, also most of the drugs we would want to use SR for (I imagine primarily Cocaine, MDMA) all the best quality is from oversea's, our purity for these drugs is extremely small. Other drugs, meth, LSD, Cannabis are normally available across the country and aren't overly hard to seek out. RC's on the other hand I wouldn't be suprised if they have decent business in Aus from SR. But at small personal quantity's people would be unlikely to attact much heat from, it wouldn't be worth the hastle for the fuzz.
This is interesting to hear. The situation in Aussie always fascinates me. I guess meth and cannabis are home grown. I assume cannabis is a lower offence. Meth now with the shake and bake method is like a virus. I assume LSD involves such small quantities even a 1G delivery by post provides 20,000 hits so its almost impossible to stop this.
In regards to E and coke they both present particular problems. With coke it has to be imported and for significant doses significant bulk is required. Post is not an effective solution so you are reliant on oldskool smuggling methods. This is where OZ LE / Customs seem to have it nailed.
For E it requires some very specific precursors and also there is no "shake and bake" method as of yet. I am certain this may change. A microwave oven and a kitchen in many ways provide a lab over time I am sure an E "shake and bake" method will materialise. Currently making it on a small scale is only really for a chemist experimenter type and they are few and far between. Seems importing MDMA is the likely choice for Aus.
Due to distances etc bringing in pills seems to be not the done thing. Crystal MDMA blocks, MD-P2P or MDMA freebase would seem the methods of choice. Unfortunately the Aus heat have lots of sophisticated kit to sniff out all this stuff. The large superlab in Aussie Drug Lords doco seems a thing of the past now. That guy got 16 years thats quite a punishment.
The temptation for bunk pill production seems too good to resist.
I am interested to hear about the RC scene in Aus. America have stamped it out but I am surprised to hear they kind of tolerate it in Aus. I might have another look on SR and what Aus vendors are there.
My understanding is that we are very very anonomous, but never entirely. They have teams to crack these types of things, but it's very time consuming and alot of work so once again it's only worth their time if they know the target is supplying/buying large amounts.
I guess cracking users with this method is a total waste of time but I would be sure they would love to nail Mr Silk Road. i am not sure if Aus laws could nail Mr Silk Road. I am sure the Americans would find a way of extraditing him and prosecuting him in some hostile state like florida.
I suspect SR is a small tight crew of network engineers on very high salary with their mouths zipped. I would take a guess the crew would be in Holland somewhere maybe with the servers in an African State. Who ever they are they are clever and know what they are doing. Just the engine of the site is decent coding alone without considering the security aspects.
I find it unlikely but not impossible. Sustanon stated a few pages back that they do at times let things go through a few times so that they can bust them for all at once. For I small amount of a drug, letting it through and then keeping an eye on that address would be more in their interest then busting over such a small quantity. If I was the person who received an opened package I would not trust buying drugs through the mail at all again and just be grateful that he/she wasn't busted.
I do agree you have a valid point. However, I think you might be wrong in thinking you would discover an opened or interfered package. The LE would have this nailed.
Our mail in Australia that is imported, because there is way way too much to check every package they do have systems in place that track which packages pose more risk based on where they are coming from and where they are going. I don't know this in more detail but there was an article about it a few months ago as this system is relatively new (installed 2010 I think).
This makes sense. Also worth noting what we read about is often two or three years out of date. Current methods will not be public knowledge. I am sure they are well aware of the SR threat and will be constantly looking at methods to detect drugs in the post.
Out of all the SR defense mechanisms I suspect the detection is where they are putting most resource.
I think a dog sniffing mail is to limited. Xray is too time consuming. But something that picks stuff up as it whips past is possible. maybe a thing coming for the future? I suspect the Americans are also pumping resource into this.
True, and on top of that, all i-Phones are installed with 12month key loggers. This means even after you have deleted msg's they can track back the last 12 months every button you pressed and I think they can bring up deleted msg's aswell from another source. This is time consuming though and I don't think they bother unless they suspect you are a key player.
Its an interesting idea this. We are lead to beleive if you are a "player" you have hundreds of phones. When you think about it this is not really practical as you need to maintain a method to be contacted. having two phones is plausable one with permanent number and one disposable number but then as soon as you relay the new number LE could pick this up. I think most players just use code. They assume a constant tap.
Intersting to hear your comments about I phone. I am amazed i phone would do this. I cant see why privacy invasion in this way would be of any commercial interest to them.
I don't think this is accurate. Not that I would chance it, but as I stated in a previous comment, they're is a rating system in place for a reason. They could try to rig the set up I guess, but I would be very suprised if it was the majority.
LE in the States are brutal. I am sure SR frustrates them as in a sense they are powerless. I really cant see them tolerating a Bomb 250 / Defqon Ecstasy store posting from USA. personally if I saw this I would immediately smell heat. I might have another sniff round SR and see what I can find. Its a bit speculative I see what you are saying but I just cant see the states tollerating a posting vendor with Acid or Es etc.
I am sure Aus LE would share a similiar view.
I was under the impression the RC laws were considerably relaxed compared to the Aus Analog act. Are you sure aren't confusing their analog act with Australia's. We have some brutal Analog laws, but my understanding was in America it was considerrably easier/legal to have you're own chemistry set up if the RC's had a plausable practical use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Web_Tryp
After 2004 the RC vendors got properly nailed. In terms of chemistry equipment it depends on what you are doing. I think certain states require letters of intent to the local DEA if you wish to posess three neck flasks, condensors, heater stirrers etc.
I am not from USA so am no expert but as I understand it they are not tolerant to RCs. if you vend them you risk a DEA style bust at any moment. The compound in many ways is irrelevant. If you are proven to be selling for human consumption then prosecution follows. As I understand it some of the websites were nailed because clients user names were things like
trippinballz, candyravekidz offmynutts etc. The prosecution argued it would be unlikely a research company or individual would make this choice of username without the intention of recreation.
Wasn't this one of the reasons it was so easy for strike to do what he was doing for so long (If you don't know who Strike was, watch the documentary on the hive)
Surprised you didnt notice my Avatar Bee
Strike was prosecuted for MDMA manufacture. In his time in jail he knocked up Total Synthesis 1. The books were not illegal, owning a Chem Supply House was not illegal. Where his mistake was made was the Hive and his book Sources. In Sources and the Hive The Science Alliance was an advised source for "Asking Few Questions". The final nail in the coffin was his advice and clear understanding of Ecstasy Manufacture. From his actions he was supplying all the MDMA labs in the USA and the prosecution made the valid point he had played a large part in the building of these illegal enterprises.
The strike thing is a very interesting topic. I beleive Strike is a DEA Sting Operation. It would not surprise me if the DEA wrote the books and actually setup the hive. Since the Hive bust the entire USA Ecstasy scene collapsed and turned to bunk. The whole dateline interview just does not add up at all.
Few points to consider:
(1) University students video taping drug taking, manufacture (plausable?)
(2) Chap selling industrial glassware and safrol allows video taping and agrees deal on tape (plausable?)
(3) You run a chem supply house actively involved in the E scene you have a bee on your monitor (plausable?)
(4) You invite an NBC interview turn red compliment the NBC goon and then confess to being strike (plausable?)
(5) You write a book about where to source MDMA precursors register the book to your mums address and then set up a chem supply house 15 mins drive away (plausable?)
(6) You confess your location in your books (plausable?)
I dunno I just think this whole case stinks. This is not the work of someone with an intelligent and criminal mind. It seems to me this was the biggest sting you will ever see. To me its transparent.
Agreed, would not be suprised at all, it may be policy for details to be deleted. But If you're buying drugs off someone off the internet, they could be high, lazy or just not give a fuck about you.
Bang on the nail. This is a very important point. Assume the details you hand out are public domain.
I agree entirely. This is something I've often thought would be a key risk in using SR. When they bust vendors I would not be suprised at all if they kept all records somewhere secret as a way of lowering their sentence for the information they give.
Very plausable theory. Very valid point.
It would be time consuming but not out of reach in order for one to be safe you would need probably a 1024 bit as this is what banks use (some use 204. For simple computer ones, they would no doubt have devices to stamp down safeguards in hours (most likely minutes)
LE have this nailed. A typical E dealer in holland knocking out pills I cant imagine is using particularly secure tactics.
As to how much data or address details they retain is anyones guess.
