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warmstink said:
I believe SR is well worth the (limited) risk involved considering the alternatives for someone in my position, and according to the reviews I've read on SR, the quality is consistently better than most products getting stepped on in the streets. Will post about my upcoming experience! Thanks for sharing!
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Dont you think its kinda stupid posting about your experience of purchasing illegal drugs from an online website on a public forum which in known to the AFP??? I thought the whole idea of TOR Network was to attain anonymity.
 
warmstink said:
Very informative and factual. Have been researching the SR option for some time, for the exact reasons listed. Being new to the area (country!), and having a family, I've been reluctant to seek out "back alley" dealers. Mostly from fear of detection by law enforcement, as well as the risk of getting bashed, which I've heard is a favorite pastime here directed towards foreigners. I believe SR is well worth the (limited) risk involved considering the alternatives for someone in my position, and according to the reviews I've read on SR, the quality is consistently better than most products getting stepped on in the streets. Will post about my upcoming experience! Thanks for sharing!
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I believe that some prisons do have internet access so please share your experience so we all know what the outcome was, good luck LOL
 
BobJillespie said:
I think you have to weigh the choices and risk involved. What's the chance of a small envelope containing 500mg, that's machine sorted, being pulled off the line and opened? What happens if it is? It's not a trafficable amount, though i'm sure they could charge you with some customs related offence, plus possession. But what happens when they pull this envelope and find the 500mg of whatever? The name won't match the address and the address likely isn't the residence of the real buyer, who's they don't know. So, no name, a small amount of drugs, and perhaps no address? And even if it is the address, how are they going to prosecute that? You can't prove someone ordered them. And if it wasn't addressed to them, you can't prove it's theirs. You can send anyone anything. If someone sends me a letter full of anthrax, I'm not liable for it.

I'm not saying I condone doing this. But it's certainly not as black and white, nor probably reckless as you make it sound. If anything it works out better for everyone. No proceeds toward crime activity from buying through dealers + local suppliers. Much much higher chance the goods will be as advertised and unadulterated, which lowers the risk of overdose or complications. It's almost like a trial of decriminalized drugs. The store is very much what you would expect from a legit industry with competition. High quality goods, and low prices. Customer reviews for peace of mind.

They never will, but the government should be welcoming something like this. It's taking drug related crime (in relation to its local production) off-shore and the harm minimization effect flowing on from good quality stuff.

But anyway, ordering drugs through the post is a generally bad idea. But there's more to it.
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The envelopes arnt machine sorted. The have dogs run over all of them, well most of them anyway unless they somehow miss it. Alot of RC's go undetected thats a fact. They dont need a name and address, they just need the person taking hold of the envelope / package w/e it is. If you accept it you are liable for it. Your saying you'd rather import it than buy from someone locally? If you are getting adulterated drugs then find another dealer that has the goods. There are good dealers and shit ones. I dont think a criminal record would look good at all, on the side note did any of you know that the new number plate readers that police use as of late can track your car and info pops up saying whatever crime you have committed or any little bit of info they have on you? example "Know to carry drugs" or "known to run from car" or something similar whatever you may be into. A lot of people dont know this but I suggest keeping your eyes peeled.
 
BobJillespie said:
They surely can not hand sort all that mail? And from what I've read the stuff is all vacuum sealed so that negates the drug dogs slightly. And I'm not saying it's a good idea. But some people can't find a decent dealer and may be able to arrange a delivery point that has minimal risk. And if it was possible and safe to order direct from a manufacturer in holland (MDMA) then yes, I'd much rather buy it that way. Especially when it's an eBay style set up so youcan read other buyers experience. Cheaper, and less likely to be cut.
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Not all of them are hand sorted thats for sure but most of them get checked, it doesnt matter if its vacuum sealed or built into something, a sniffer dog can smell right through it. You can hide it in coffee beans or put it in a solution they will still smell it, they smell individual scents. I'm not sure why people think that by adding something to mask the scent or building it into something airtight will eliminate/mask the scent. The smell can penetrate right through it doesnt matter if it is made from metal or whatever. Delivery point at minimal risk? At what cost? risking importation? The Molly on Sydney streets are just as good, true they are 10 times more dearer but Id rather pay that then having to worry about getting a criminal record and/or getting my door knocked down by feds and having my license blacklisted just because of such a thing which may also cause a lot of harm in the future.
 
BobJillespie said:
I think you have to weigh the choices and risk involved. What's the chance of a small envelope containing 500mg, that's machine sorted, being pulled off the line and opened? What happens if it is? It's not a trafficable amount, though i'm sure they could charge you with some customs related offence, plus possession. But what happens when they pull this envelope and find the 500mg of whatever? The name won't match the address and the address likely isn't the residence of the real buyer, who's they don't know. So, no name, a small amount of drugs, and perhaps no address? And even if it is the address, how are they going to prosecute that? You can't prove someone ordered them. And if it wasn't addressed to them, you can't prove it's theirs. You can send anyone anything. If someone sends me a letter full of anthrax, I'm not liable for it.

I'm not saying I condone doing this. But it's certainly not as black and white, nor probably reckless as you make it sound. If anything it works out better for everyone. No proceeds toward crime activity from buying through dealers + local suppliers. Much much higher chance the goods will be as advertised and unadulterated, which lowers the risk of overdose or complications. It's almost like a trial of decriminalized drugs. The store is very much what you would expect from a legit industry with competition. High quality goods, and low prices. Customer reviews for peace of mind.

They never will, but the government should be welcoming something like this. It's taking drug related crime (in relation to its local production) off-shore and the harm minimization effect flowing on from good quality stuff.

But anyway, ordering drugs through the post is a generally bad idea. But there's more to it.
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I think its a lot more black and white than you think, pretty sure once you take possession of the package and don't report it then they easily have you nailed. The chances of getting gaol for a small amount may be small but regardless of how severe the penalty is a criminal conviction is a criminal conviction and they all have the same impact in the way of limiting travel and employment options.

I also really don't get how you figure transactions through SR don't support crime activity? If its illegal drugs you are purchasing then a criminal somewhere is making money, that should be obvious... You don't know sellers on SR from a bar of soap and really can't speculate what kind of people they are or what the proceeds of your transaction will be used for.
 
You mention local suppliers and dealers in general so to me it was pretty ambiguous. Even still why is it going offshore a good thing if it still contributes to a criminal element, it isn't as if petty crimes that generally affect day to day people are being perpetrated or funded by drug syndicates, and if a drug user has to steal to pay for their drugs it doesn't matter where the money is headed they are going to steal in the country they live in. All sending the money offshore does is ensure it wont be spent here, considering the financial situation the world is in I don't see how thats a good thing. Even if you did somehow figure it worked out better for Australia/Australians, people in other countries do actually fall into the category of "everyone", and logic says if it was a good thing for us not to fund crime syndicates here then it would be bad for people in other countries for us to fund crime syndicates there, right?
 
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My question to you - why do you have these? Who was dumb enough to order 49 MDMA pills in the post? Along with obviously another item on the same day?

Unless of course you work for the feds and have access to such paperwork?
 
poppymilk said:
How the hell is this thread even still open? How many people have used the information here and gone ahead and ordered without taking proper precautions? How does this help HR? This shit should be closed, it is all just speculation now!

I wonder if these 2 people happen to be members here, decided to try it out and ordered directly to their house using their real name and only the Tor browser bundle?

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Let this thread crash and burn and die into the abyss ;)
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LOL

Where are those pics from?

SR is such common knowledge that anyone browsing BL probably knows what it is anyway.
 
Damn, I wouldn't like a thread like this if I got 2 letters from the AFP either.
 
poppymilk said:
How the hell is this thread even still open? How many people have used the information here and gone ahead and ordered without taking proper precautions? How does this help HR? This shit should be closed, it is all just speculation now!

I wonder if these 2 people happen to be members here, decided to try it out and ordered directly to their house using their real name and only the Tor browser bundle?

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Let this thread crash and burn and die into the abyss ;)
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Just out of interest, are these the 'love letters' that I hear about? Or are these they type of thing given when they are serving a warrant and your getting your house raided?
 
Looks like someone is in shit, prob wont be raided for a single gram but will be black listed and watched. Why on earth would someone import 49 beans is beyond me:S
 
Actually, they are love letters.

Personally seen and received these types of AFP love letters.

AQIS Letters are only sent for plant materials and benzos - or other schedule 4 meds which aren't explicitly illegal in nature.

These are what they send out if the quantity is too small for them to warrant mobilizing their forces for something (going by the amounts stated there, clearly a gram of mdma and 49 pills is not worth sending a batallion to search someones house). This should be obvious to ANYONE.

I mean hell, the government is in enough trouble with money as it is - do you think knowing that tons upon tons of drugs are coming in to the country each month would warrant them doing an S&D on the smallest of those imports? I think not.

Everyone seems to act like the AFP are just like you're average beat cop - they're not. They get paid well, they're lazy just like the rest of us. And each and every one of them bastards is only looking to get fame and glory out of a bust - hardly are these guys out to bust the little guy. I mean hell the AFP and Interpol were after Tony Mokbel, you honestly think they'd chase after Joe Bloggs for his gram of molly?

People can say i speculate all i want, but only myself and a handful of other bluelighters have any real fucking idea about this shit -because we've been through it. And it would be safe to say that any prediction i made during those times was fairly spot on in terms of federal activity and just how far they're willing to go for different things.

Tread lightly, and I doubt you'll come to harm.
 
Sustanon said:
Looks like someone is in shit, prob wont be raided for a single gram but will be black listed and watched. Why on earth would someone import 49 beans is beyond me:S
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Theres evidence on SR of people importing substantially more than 49 pills which in some cases are for small scale dealing. I suppose the reasoning behind taking the risk is that an average pill in Australia contains no more than 60-70mgs of MDMA (if it contains MDMA at all) and costs $xx per pill where as a lot of EU pills are pushing lab tested 200mgs MDMA and costs $x.

Id also say the average person importing from SR are ordering personal amounts + some for friends so their personal becomes free, I wouldnt call this dealing per say.

The truth of the matter is the quality and price of drugs in Australia is a joke, I personally dont fall for the often repeated "but we live on an island so far away so that's why drugs are expensive and shit", we as Australians are apathetic at the best of times and don't really stand up and complain about anything really, drugs included.

Although the whole SR phenomenon is fascinating I wish it would just go away, people have been importing personal amounts through the mail for years without any problems until SR reared it's ugly head and spoiled it for the ones who arnt stupid enough to order 49 pills, brag about the amount of drugs they "got through" and abuse LE on SR.

I actually joined SR to voice my opinion about how fucking stupid these people were for bragging and how much intel their posts were giving LE ie: packaging techniques, locations that easily be narrowed down to the city posted from and to, amounts ordered and what drugs, this lead to them bragging even more!!!. Funny enough their all closing the Aussie threads now and starting to be careful about what is posted since a LOT of orders are not arriving, specially from countries such as the Netherlands. The damage has been done now though, and a reasonably safe, cheap and successful way of getting drugs has been wrecked by SR and its members.

SR is full of kids and people who's experience with buying drugs at best, is scoring a stick down the local pub and closing this thread now would be like closing the gates after the cattle has escaped.
 
^Amen.

SR is a fantastic idea. The guy who made SR is rolling around in money like you guys wouldnt believe.

Put it this way, this one smart individual has single handedly put the whole world tax dollars that would have gone on drugs (should they have been regulated, and easier to get) into his own pocket. This makes governments and officials furious because now they can't spend this money they receive from a) busting criminals, and b) tax to fund their stupid holidays, lunches, sermons and projects.

So Kudos to him for that much, he's shown anarchy is still 100% possible in this day and age - thanks to the technology those in power gave the common man.

The issue here lies in the fact we can not fucking stop idiots, who through the media's claims of the 'online anonymous drug marketplace' and directions on where to find it - have now hit the proverbial jackpot in their eyes.

Those of us who know the limitation of such a system wouldn't dare to push it from fear of reprisal. z

I dont doubt that those AFP love letters are real. i've seen similar before - back in 2006 a friend received one of these for a bottle of GBL (250ml). It asks that the the person receiving such notice please contact the AFP to discuss the transgression lol.

This is the main reason I wanna leave bluelight, the truly knowledgeable people are gone - laid waste to those who have next to no experience but banter.
 
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