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The Dive's Covid Thread

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I don’t mean to offend when I say this, and I understand there are exceptions to everything, but it Tripp’s me out how people that old run the country…every person iv met in their 70s+ Is to some degree disconnected with modern day reality, cause they were born and lived through a different time, even when they completly have their Witt’s about them there is just a clear generation gap , and they run the fucking world…I think 40s 50s is a good age to be president

100% agreed. There should be an upper age limit on the presidency. At MOST, age 65, the age of retirement. But I'd prefer younger. Look at how much the presidency aged all the younger presidents (Bush Jr, Obama, Clinton)

As soon as the vaccines become bad in the medias eyes it will be all trumps fault, it’s comical to say the least, and the same people saying trump had nothing to do with the vaccine will say it’s all trumps fault and he should be locked up for murder

Sad for me to say this, but you're most likely right.

The vaccines were advertised as a way to keep from getting sick. That was either a lie or a disastrous miscalculation.

Although I agree with a lot of your post, I don't think it was a lie. From what I saw, the vaccines were quite effective against the alpha strain. But it quickly mutated, it was less effective against delta (delta was also the deadliest), and seemingly totally ineffective or even negatively effective against whatever strain we have now. Omicron changed the game, and people don't want to admit that it's true.

I don't think it was a lie, the virus just said fuck you, I like to mutate fast, bitches.
 

The issue I take with this stance is the demand to be given information. Everyone over the age of 30 lived through Iraq pt.2, and they should know full well from experience that the MSM is not throwing straight dice. You can't rely on them if you're interested in truth.

More importantly, the information was always available. People are just intellectually lazy and cowardly. It was obvious by May 2020 that the pandemic was a complete fabrication, the official statistical data proved it at the time e.g. average age of morality in the UK was higher than the national average age of mortality. I've posted here before the ONS data I got that clearly shows that whatever really happened did so between March and early May, and that the death rates were normal after.

It's not a case of we were given the wrong information. The information was always there. It's a case of globally coordinated LIES. Why, is up for personal interpretation.
 
what do you mean by that though?
That what happened did not actually meet the criteria of a pandemic. There was no mass contagion and there was no mass death either. The testing regime, in conjunction with propaganda (and censorship), gave the illusion of a pandemic by designating people as 'positive cases' . The positive cases were used as the metric, regardless of whether a person was actually ill or not, and it was also used in counting towards the death tally if they tested positive within 28 days prior to death.

It was a pandemic on paper only (and TV).
 
That what happened did not actually meet the criteria of a pandemic. There was no mass contagion and there was no mass death either. The testing regime, in conjunction with propaganda (and censorship), gave the illusion of a pandemic by designating people as 'positive cases' . The positive cases were used as the metric, regardless of whether a person was actually ill or not, and it was also used in counting towards the death tally if they tested positive within 28 days prior to death.

It was a pandemic on paper only (and TV).

so the dead people are real but they died of something besides Covid?
 
so the dead people are real but they died of something besides Covid?
Exactly. They were only defined as covid deaths because of the testing regime. That's why when you examine the statistics of overall mortality (prior to vaccine rollout) in the UK the only time there was anything abnormal was Feb-Apr 2020, which can be traced back to ventilators and deliberate decisions that lead to the early deaths of many elderly people (i.e. state sanctioned murder). That same initial pattern was repeated in several European countries, which generated the initial statistical spike.. which was necessary to even speak of there being a pandemic. Once they convinced hypnotized people in those initial months then it didn't matter if what was presented made any sense.. which is why Boris and No 10 workers were partying during (and after) April 2020 at No.10 because they knew it was all lies.

Statistics, propaganda, and fraudulent virology.
 
@Electrum1 Haven't doctors always been under threat of delicensure for going against standards of care?

Anyways, according to the wording here this is about the dissemination of information and now hot they actually practice? What a doctor says in practice to a patient is private and protected, what they spread publicly is different I guess. Doctors have never truly had free speech in this regard well before covid.
 
@Electrum1 Haven't doctors always been under threat of delicensure for going against standards of care?

Anyways, according to the wording here this is about the dissemination of information and now hot they actually practice? What a doctor says in practice to a patient is private and protected, what they spread publicly is different I guess. Doctors have never truly had free speech in this regard well before covid.
I'm not sure what all the bill actually changes, so I posted it here instead of the CEP covid thread
 
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