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The Dive's Covid Thread

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Isn't their already talk of stopping the use of someone's DNA data to predict risk of disease? Too late, I believe.

It must be scary to think that becoming ill could bankrupt you or put your entire family under huge tremendous pressure.

“Illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune, the cost of which should be shared by the community.”

-Nye Bevan (on introduction of the NHS).
 
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It did - over 530,000 Indians died of covid (as of 2020). It might not have reached the US news cycle but apparently they were running out of wood for funeral pyres (as is Hindu custom) and carrying out such cremations around the clock.

https://www.redcross.org.uk/stories...avirus-in-india-the-epicentre-of-the-pandemic
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530,000 is approximately 0.04% of the total population of India. That is the square root of fuck all. I'm sorry, but for a completely novel respiratory virus operating in an environment where 10% of people live in poverty (as discussed already), where the pollution is ridiculous, the sanitation is ridiculous, and all the rest, that figure simply does not match up with the reality that they portrayed and which you are continuing to portray with the funeral pyre thing. We heard the same bullshit about morgues running out of space in the USA and UK.

The death rate should have been an order of magnitude greater than 0.03%. What's the excuse then. Masks? Lmao.

You can fudge the numbers in other countries with smaller populations and obscure the truth, but with India the truth is self evident. You can't fake death numbers very easily, as in you can't murder masses of people very easily and get away with it - forced ventilator deaths and accelerated end-of-life pathways in care homes works, but only in a limited fashion i.e. this worked in the UK where the population is vastly smaller. The only tool they had available was to rebrand deaths using the covid tests, but even that wasn't sufficient. 0.03% was the best they could accomplish.

China in many ways is similar to India. Same population, pollution, poverty, etc. The only difference is the iron grip on communications, on the people. Which is why China was selected to be the 'origin', because it is easy to obscure the truth and whip up hysteria out of nothing when you control the entire communication system. Very easy to show videos of people apparently falling down dead in the street and get away with that bullshit when the population can't communicate to the outside world.
 
I asked the doctor at my methadone clinic once what happened if someone had covid, how they'd get their meds etc... he said they haven't ran into it yet and that was just a few months ago. You'd think if something was that transmittable and risk to people under 60 they would have seen many people with it, considering quite a few were homeless
 
Jennn said:
I asked the doctor at my methadone clinic once what happened if someone had covid, how they'd get their meds etc... he said they haven't ran into it yet and that was just a few months ago. You'd think if something was that transmittable and risk to people under 60 they would have seen many people with it, considering quite a few were homeless
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If your a homeless you don't watch the news, thus don't suffer the media virus.
 
Yes there's a soup kitchen in the same area that serves upward of 1000. In Canada they have warming rooms where people are in and out all day. Sitting in groups in an enclosed tent. Hospital for od's aand other reasons. They interact with more people inside then most people i know. We were on lock down, they weren't.
 
Homeless people don't have TV's. And neither do the majority of Africa's population. No vector for infection available!

Look at this shit. Does this look a mortality chart for a real pandemic to you?
Number of coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths in the African continent as of November 18, 2022, by country - Statista

Aside from South Africa, basically the entire continent had neither the will or money to play along with the pandemic. I seem to recall a few vocal African leaders mysteriously dying of heart attacks too.. just a complete coincidence of course.
 
No I'm seriously asking why you think homeless people are at higher risk for covid. What is the physical situational mechanism that would increase transmission in the homeless population? They spend most of their time ourdoors

Do homeless people travel internationally frequently? Do their close contacts and friends?
 
Oddly, the UK saw the government place all homeless people in temporary accommodation during lockdown. Which kind of suggests that their ARE enough spaces to house everyone so homelessness is a political choice.

We don't have methadone clinics (or, rather, they aren't common), all pharmacies are required to dispense methadone. They have a little room and the pharmacist can remotely supervise consumption. That was well before covid. When things like TB are coming back, pharmacists don't want to risk any potential infection.
 
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530,000 is approximately 0.04% of the total population of India. That is the square root of fuck all. I'm sorry, but for a completely novel respiratory virus operating in an environment where 10% of people live in poverty (as discussed already), where the pollution is ridiculous, the sanitation is ridiculous, and all the rest, that figure simply does not match up with the reality that they portrayed and which you are continuing to portray with the funeral pyre thing. We heard the same bullshit about morgues running out of space in the USA and UK.

The death rate should have been an order of magnitude greater than 0.03%. What's the excuse then. Masks? Lmao.

You can fudge the numbers in other countries with smaller populations and obscure the truth, but with India the truth is self evident. You can't fake death numbers very easily, as in you can't murder masses of people very easily and get away with it - forced ventilator deaths and accelerated end-of-life pathways in care homes works, but only in a limited fashion i.e. this worked in the UK where the population is vastly smaller. The only tool they had available was to rebrand deaths using the covid tests, but even that wasn't sufficient. 0.03% was the best they could accomplish.

China in many ways is similar to India. Same population, pollution, poverty, etc. The only difference is the iron grip on communications, on the people. Which is why China was selected to be the 'origin', because it is easy to obscure the truth and whip up hysteria out of nothing when you control the entire communication system. Very easy to show videos of people apparently falling down dead in the street and get away with that bullshit when the population can't communicate to the outside world.
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Look at countries like Mozambique. Over 32M people and like ~2,300 "Covid deaths" in 3 years. Most of those were probably deaths that simply tested positive for Covid and died from other stuff
 
Some African nations have so little infrastructure that nobody would ever know. I mean, the Lake Nyos disaster wasn't discovered for some days and their were almost 1500 dead. Then it took a while to work out what had happened.
 
That argument may hold for Africa, but it doesn't hold for India. There should have been bodies piled in the streets according to the narrative we were sold and given the prevailing conditions there as we've already discussed. Africa has the excuse of being so poor and disorganized that maybe millions died but we never found out, but India is more second-world than third-world.. we would know if millions were perishing, and they didn't.

0.03% of the total population is ridiculous. "Hands, face, space!". There isn't enough room to social distance without stepping in human excrement lol. It's so obvious. Come on.
 
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And I'm in the burbs of Toronto, so they travel to downtown and back by train and bus.
 
they were trying to say that the homeless were gonna be the most hard hit in the beginning, and they were trying to put covid positive homeless in hotels and yadda yadda, and when that didn't pan out, they just stopped talking about it

that's exactly what happened because i clearly remember it all and here's a sample:


www.seattletimes.com

Person who left coronavirus quarantine facility in Kent against instructions tests negative for virus

A person awaiting COVID-19 test results unexpectedly left an emergency quarantine facility at a Kent motel on Friday morning, releasing a wave of anger and worry from officials within the south King County city who protested the siting of the...
www.seattletimes.com www.seattletimes.com


fuckin idiots
 
Hand washing was shown to not matter, it doesn't live long on surfaces. Not sure why showering matters? Sharing needles sure maybe, mask probably not an issue especially since they spend a lot of time outside, public transit could definitely be an issue and I've seen homeless people spend long tines on the bus just to have somewhere to be.

I don't really care what "they" were saying in the beginning because the research hadn't been done yet, it was just a bunch of guessing based on the worst possible outcome
 
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