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MydriHaze said:
Yeah ? And if the shit get outta hand it's always me who gonna be banned, so don't worry @Mr. Krinkle , i let you to your deeeeeeep philosophical conversation with meme of greta thunberg and dickpics so that we can all feel better except for me.
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I haven't given an infraction in years, literally. I have always tried to resolve things short of that.

Different forums have different rules. Stay within those guidelines and you will never be infracted or banned, simple as. Please don't try to play the "everyone picks on me" card because Bluelight does not operate that way and you know it.
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
I haven't given an infraction in years, literally. I have always tried to resolve things short of that.

Different forums have different rules. Stay within those guidelines and you will never be infracted or banned, simple as. Please don't try to play the "everyone picks on me" card because Bluelight does not operate that way and you know it.
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True that.... I'm, as we speak, looking to the historic of this thread.... Is my presence a joke now @Mr. Krinkle ? Sorry if i intruded your xenophobic tweets...........Now we can go back to seriously part of it!
 
Now people (well...) are shooting each other next to malls, gyms and restaurants in broad daylight in normal residential areas of Sweden due to a criminally retarded combination of ridiculous drug laws, feminized law enforcement and mass immigration.

Most people don't deserve a right to vote and most people here should spend the rest of their tiny stupid lives apologizing to "racists" they've been demonizing out of sheer spoiled gullibility.
 
Mjäll said:
Now people (well...) are shooting each other next to malls, gyms and restaurants in broad daylight in normal residential areas of Sweden due to a criminally retarded combination of ridiculous drug laws, feminized law enforcement and mass immigration.

Most people don't deserve a right to vote and most people here should spend the rest of their tiny stupid lives apologizing to "racists" they've been demonizing out of sheer spoiled gullibility.
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Is it true that number of rapes in Sweden got from practically none to insane numbers following big influx of immigrants from East?
 
SpiralusSancti said:
Is it true that number of rapes in Sweden got from practically none to insane numbers following big influx of immigrants from East?
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The statistic has been exaggerated since there was also a change in how the crimes are recorded resulting in increase of rape count. But of course a big influx of non-vetted welfare seekers from more rape-prone cultures has contributed to rape. Gang rape is almost always committed by immigrants. Statistics on crime and ethnicity/heritage have been available and clear but it's so-so nowadays due to omission.

Sweden is a parody on PC and woke. Self-destructive and shameful.

I take it you may be hungarian? Swedes love to hate on that entire country to justify our opposite problems.
 
Here's the first thing I found on google about rape/Sweden:

unherd.com

Sweden's migrant rape crisis

European liberals never ask uncomfortable questions about immigration
unherd.com unherd.com

In a recent issue of the journal Forensic Sciences Research, they published a paper on “Swedish rape offenders”, in which they analyse the characteristics of individuals between 15-60 years old who were convicted of “rape+” against women in Sweden between 2000 and 2015. The term “rape+” here refers to both acts of rape and attempted rape, including aggravated cases.

The researchers found that, within that time-frame, a total of 3,039 offenders were convicted of rape+ against a woman in Sweden — nearly all of whom (99.7%) were men. According to the researchers, Swedish-born offenders with Swedish-born parents accounted for 40.8% of the offenders. But, strikingly, almost half of the offenders were born outside of Sweden (47.7%). Of those foreign-born offenders, 34.5% were from the Middle East/North Africa, with 19.1% hailing from the rest of Africa. As a percentage of all convicted perpetrators, therefore, 16.4% were foreign-born individuals from the Middle East/North Africa, and 9.1% were foreign-born individuals from Africa (excluding North Africa).

How far does this signify over-representation? On the basis of population records kept by the official agency Statistics Sweden (SCB), approximately 20% (19.7%) of the Swedish population are foreign-born individuals. Among those convicted of rape and perpetrated rape, the foreign-born account for 47.7% of those convicted — so they are over-represented by a factor of 2.4.
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and here is the research it references:

 
Mjäll said:
almost always committed by immigrants
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Swedish-born offenders with Swedish-born parents accounted for 40.8% of the offenders.
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And then another 9.5% for people born in Sweden with immigrant parents.
Maybe it is because those with lower income and lesser socioeconomic status are FAR more likely to be convicted of a crime than a wealthy non-immigrant who can afford a good lawyer?
 
I remember this young Iraqi immigrant that came over after the 2003 US/UK invasion and lived with a family opposite where I was living at the time. He was a friendly chap, about 18 iirc. But I remember he got really outraged that their 17 yr old daughter was planning to go out one night wearing a skirt, like really angry. He was convinced she'd be raped and that it was shameful and disrespectful (to her family) for her to dress like that (FWIW she really wasn't showing much flesh, a pretty typical look for a Western woman on a night out, fairly conservative).

I remember talking to him about it, and I asked him why he thought she would be raped. And he said it's because it's natural for men to rape a woman if she exposes her flesh like that, that you can't trust men, that no woman should be out by herself without male escort/chaperone, and should definitely not wear clothes like that either way.

I said it's completely normal for women here in the West, that he must have noticed, and that they don't get raped just for choosing to dress a certain way. And that men have brains and thus the ability to take responsibility for their own actions and their sex drive. Then I asked him how he would behave around a woman dressed like her, and he said if she dressed like that, men are entitled to basically sexually assault her o_O

To me, that entitled attitude seemed so completed fucked up. I just couldn't get over that difference, it really made me think some cultural traits become too deeply ingrained/inculcated for some to be able to adapt to 180 degree change. I don't know what happened with him, but I hope he managed to figure out how society here works in the end, and come to peace with it.
 
arrall said:
Do you have any evidence for that claim?
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Quick example:

www.aftonbladet.se

Därför granskar vi gruppvåldtäktsdomarna

“Hon får lugnande medicin för att klara vardagen”, berättar mamman till en 14-åring som våldtogs av två jämnåriga pojkar i en park.
www.aftonbladet.se www.aftonbladet.se

Mainstream formerly woke dogmatic (now reluctantly realistic) newspaper looked at rape cases years 2012-2017. 82 out of 112 sentenced for gang rape were born outside Europe. Of the remaining 30 a significant number likely were born in Sweden by immigrant parents. Some may be from other European countries aswell.

"2nd generation immigrants" are often lumped together in the umbrella "immigrants" here, out of statistical tradition. Many of these are completely culturally segregated from all things swedish.

If you want more i can oblige. Is this question important to you? You did something of a nitpick at my general point. Anyway now i've supported this specific claim which was part of a more nuanced reply.
 
arrall said:
And then another 9.5% for people born in Sweden with immigrant parents.
Maybe it is because those with lower income and lesser socioeconomic status are FAR more likely to be convicted of a crime than a wealthy non-immigrant who can afford a good lawyer?
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A link could be expected. EDIT: Nevermind, found it in another post.

Maybe it's because of islam, among other things. Do you know how women are seen in that doctrine?

The socioeconomic factor has been vastly overstated, in a systematic propagandic fashion. I can give you sources for this aswell if so need be.

You're asking as if i haven't considered the socioeconomic factor as the main or even sole driver whereas in fact i've been taught that stuff since being a kid and believed it myself for many years. You're also asking as if it's an obvious "duh" answer and a definitively settled simplistic issue. Or am i misreading?
 
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CFC said:
I remember this young Iraqi immigrant that came over after the 2003 US/UK invasion and lived with a family opposite where I was living at the time. He was a friendly chap, about 18 iirc. But I remember he got really outraged that their 17 yr old daughter was planning to go out one night wearing a skirt, like really angry. He was convinced she'd be raped and that it was shameful and disrespectful (to her family) for her to dress like that (FWIW she really wasn't showing much flesh, a pretty typical look for a Western woman on a night out, fairly conservative).

I remember talking to him about it, and I asked him why he thought she would be raped. And he said it's because it's natural for men to rape a woman if she exposes her flesh like that, that you can't trust men, that no woman should be out by herself without male escort/chaperone, and should definitely not wear clothes like that either way.

I said it's completely normal for women here in the West, that he must have noticed, and that they don't get raped just for choosing to dress a certain way. And that men have brains and thus the ability to take responsibility for their own actions and their sex drive. Then I asked him how he would behave around a woman dressed like her, and he said if she dressed like that, men are entitled to basically sexually assault her o_O

To me, that entitled attitude seemed so completed fucked up. I just couldn't get over that difference, it really made me think some cultural traits become too deeply ingrained/inculcated for some to be able to adapt to 180 degree change. I don't know what happened with him, but I hope he managed to figure out how society here works in the end, and come to peace with it.
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Yeah why bother
 
mal3volent said:
Here's the first thing I found on google about rape/Sweden:

unherd.com

Sweden's migrant rape crisis

European liberals never ask uncomfortable questions about immigration
unherd.com unherd.com



and here is the research it references:

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My claim was on gang rape. Your source is on rape generally. Thus you don't have the right statistic and thus you @arrall are quoting the wrong statistic.

And yet the bottom line in that source is the alarming number of immigrant rapists.

You guys have no point and my country to you is simply a commercial for leftism. As i said, it's becoming more and more a parody. I live here. You don't live here and are not even quoting the right statistics. Step it up or do not bother.
 
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