the different types of "speed"

[flyCrow]

when it comes to amphetamines i only know of two types.
methamphetamines and the one that goes by the street name "speed" in australia.

is speed a term that a lot of amphetamines fit under? i always thought that the white paste or powder it comes in was it, that there was only one type of speed. but on the internet it seems that all kinds of things fall under this term. so confused. is this white powder speed a good drug for productivity? the common one; whatever that might be. thats the one i want to know about. what is the technical name for speed?

also, if this isnt the best drug for productivity, which one is? adderall? its possible the one i talking about fits under adderall i really have no idea.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

It is basically impossible to give you one definition of "speed" as it is a regional term. In Europe it usually refers to straight amphetamine (racemic mixture of d-amphetamine and l-amphetamine). Elsewhere it refers to methamphetamine, as you mentioned. Dextroamphetamine (or dexamphetamine) is generally called "Dexies" but there is regional variation there too.

To many people, "speed" is just any powerful stimulant drug (some may go so far as to call things like methylphenidate "speed"). The amphetamine class can certainly fall under that category so Adderall, Dexedrine and Vyvanse and the street (meth)amphetamines can all be called speed. Adderall is certainly the most common (at least in the US). I know Dexedrine is available in Australia.

So long story short, there is no "technical" name for speed because it is used to refer to so many different drugs depending on where you are.

 

[_DankOpiAmp_]

Speed is the umbrella term for them all. In your Australian context, speed means " haha you just got sold adulterated bullshit". Stick with ice. The powder is the salt, the paste is the freebase form. All the pharmaceuticals are good, Desoxyn and Dexedrine are the best, followed by Adderall.

 

[black53]

There is amphetamine:

And methamphetamine:

Both come in l and d isomers (d is the better one). Street speed can be either, depending on where you live.

 

[sailor bugg]

Speed usually refers to either D or L Methamphetamine or D or L Amphetamine. The dextro isomer causes more CNS stimulation than the levo isomer and is generally what you'd want, be it D methamphetamine or D Amphetamine.

 

[duncandonuts]

Speed versus Meth?

Are speed and meth the same thing? Is speed just amphetamine? What is the difference between amphetamine and methamphetamine? Are the effects any different? Which one takes a more serious toll on your health? Which come down is worse? Thanks!

 

[black53]

It depends where you live bro. Europe - speed usually means amphetamine. USA - meth (at least that's what most US posters say).

Amphetamine is less fun and less toxic, meth is more fun and more toxic.

 

[duncandonuts]

It depends where you live bro. Europe - speed usually means amphetamine. USA - meth (at least that's what most US posters say).

Amphetamine is less fun and less toxic, meth is more fun and more toxic.

What would you recommend for a weekend user? What gets you the most bang for your buck? And what do they both feel like?

 

[flyCrow]

ok.

 

[Dawglaw]

From a HR standpoint use RX amphetamines over meth.

Meth is terrible for you.

 

[luckyshot04]

What would you recommend for a weekend user? What gets you the most bang for your buck? And what do they both feel like?

From an HR standpoint, Dawglaw is right, RX amp's would be the best bet. However, I have to point out that in an area like mine, RX amp's are out of the question when you have crystal meth. I rarely see Adderall and shit.

But to answer your question directly, you're going to get more quantity buying crystal and it's something you can do over the weekend and go into work Monday with little to no side effects.

Before you think that sounds like a piece of cake to use a few days and be fine Monday, it's not that easy. You have to force yourself to eat, definitely stay hydrated, and try to not get into too much sleep deprivation. For me, 24 hours isn't bad. After 48 hours, I start to get a little paranoid and such. After 72 hours, I force myself to put it down and save what I have left for another day. I've done this for about 7 months, using once or twice a week (A few 3 day binges in between). But I promise you that if you just smoke the hell out of it on Friday night and lay it down Sunday night without taking care of your body in the process, you will crawl into work Monday and then probably crawl back out the door taking a sick day. It can hurt your body.

The high is different for everyone. If you do it in moderation, you shouldn't tweak out as bad as your neighbor who has black garbage bags covering his window and his tin foil hat strapped on so alien's can't invade his mind. But it's a dangerous drug and as Dawglaw also stated, it's terrible for you if used irresponsibly. In my area, 99% use it pretty irresponsibly. But clean ice is hard to beat.

I still hear people call meth "speed", but I think of shit like Ritalin, Adderall, and such (Basically amphetamines)

 

[Nettuno11]

In Europe speed is amphetamine, in USA probably also.

Crystal Meth is rare and cost a lot.

For weekend use speed is better but ecstasy is more better...

 

[Burnt Offerings]

I can think of few drugs that deliver more "bang for your buck" than meth. 50 dollars worth of meth will keep your fuckin' jaw clenched for days if you space it out. (Don't do meth, kids.)

Where I live, "speed" refers to dextroamphetamine (Adderall, basically), while crank, fast, gack, gear etc. refers to meth. Sometimes people will refer to meth as "speed" too though.

 

[duncandonuts]

Should someone who has never tried either go to meth or try various weaker amphetamines first? Is doing a very powerful amphetamine (methamphetamine) for your first time dangerous? Is there any amphetamine you guys recommend that is somewhat safer and gives you a taste of the experience. Also, is it true that you experience hallucinations and delusions (unpleasant ones, anyway) while doing meth?

 

[TwistafleX]

Keep in mind that street "speed" harbors some of the most shady people in the known geekosysyem and involved in more crime, making involvement with law enforcement more likely. Speed fucks with your mind and seasoned geekers use this to their advantage. Be observant and skeptical when dealing with this crowd and tread with caution while you travel down this road. Years of meth use never did anything except hurt me and my family and cost me many years in jails and prison.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

Keep in mind that street "speed" harbors some of the most shady people in the known geekosysyem and involved in more crime, making involvement with law enforcement more likely. Speed fucks with your mind and seasoned geekers use this to their advantage. Be observant and skeptical when dealing with this crowd and tread with caution while you travel down this road. Years of meth use never did anything except hurt me and my family and cost me many years in jails and prison.

This has, without a doubt, been my experience as well. The meth scene definitely takes the prize for having the most dangerous and paranoid users/dealers (basically the same thing, as everyone I've ever met who sells meth are also big time tweakheads). You probably won't run into any real trouble as long as you don't get indebted to anyone and definitely DON'T TRUST TWEAKERS!

duncandonuts: you probably won't run into any problems if you try meth one time, if you don't have some sort of pre-existing medical condition that may make stimulant use dangerous or something. The key words of course are "if you try meth one time". Meth is a highly addictive drug that I'd advise against taking. I regret taking it myself. I know that people's natural curiosity towards drugs often overrides warnings against doing said drugs (although the fact that literally every heroin user I know has told me that they regret trying H has kept me away from that somewhat), but I still wouldn't recommend it. Not worth it.

People "tripping" on meth comes from the severe sleep deprivation which often comes with the drug's chronic use.

 

[Lorne???]

All due respect, this is not a forum to ask several questions about drugs you *might* one day try, but *hopefully* never will.

Besides, this is a BD question. I don't think it's a. BL question though, as we were just asked this same thing.

Traditionally, speed always referred to "straight" amphetamines, while meth, ice crystal, all refer to methamphetamine. But these days people refer to meth as speed just as often(especially in the south, I think the last time I saw street amphetamines was as a cut in BS coke!)

But we can't tell you what "speed" is in you're area, we aren't psychic.

If you want to compare and contrast amphetamines(adderal the most common example) and meth, they're are endless resources available to you.

UTSFE, friend.

 

[duncandonuts]

All due respect, this is not a forum to ask several questions about drugs you *might* one day try, but *hopefully* never will.

Besides, this is a BD question. I don't think it's a. BL question though, as we were just asked this same thing.

Traditionally, speed always referred to "straight" amphetamines, while meth, ice crystal, all refer to methamphetamine. But these days people refer to meth as speed just as often(especially in the south, I think the last time I saw street amphetamines was as a cut in BS coke!)

But we can't tell you what "speed" is in you're area, we aren't psychic.

If you want to compare and contrast amphetamines(adderal the most common example) and meth, they're are endless resources available to you.

UTSFE, friend.

I ask about this because I'm probably going to be put on Adderall instead of my current ADD medication, Strattera, which was causing me a lot of problems. I literally know nothing about stimulants in the world of drugs. I heard Adderall was an amphetamine after my doctor suggested it, so I was confused as to what this was. Thanks for answering my questions! My doctor suggested using stimulants for ADD because I had avoided them in the past due to the misconception that it was meth. (Yes, I know I'm a retard) but since almost every non stimulant ADD medication has given me problems, so I'm going to give in now. Thanks! And sorry didn't know speed meant different things in different areas, thought it was like how dope means heroin.

 

[luckyshot04]

I ask about this because I'm probably going to be put on Adderall instead of my current ADD medication, Strattera, which was causing me a lot of problems. I literally know nothing about stimulants in the world of drugs. I heard Adderall was an amphetamine after my doctor suggested it, so I was confused as to what this was. Thanks for answering my questions! My doctor suggested using stimulants for ADD because I had avoided them in the past due to the misconception that it was meth. (Yes, I know I'm a retard) but since almost every non stimulant ADD medication has given me problems, so I'm going to give in now. Thanks! And sorry didn't know speed meant different things in different areas, thought it was like how dope means heroin.

The other posters are right, if you've never used meth, it's a very good idea not to try it. However, the bullshit you hear about the first time people smoke and they're hooked is not always true. It wasn't the case for me and I still can put it down due to the fact I stop after 72 hours, even if I have some left. However, with any other drug, there are always those people that do get hooked the first time.

The only time I experienced some psychological issues was when I was inexperienced and didn't sleep, eat, and hydrate. After that instance, I always make sure to do those three things and I set myself a limit of 3 days and like I said, I put it down. If I have some left, that's great. I won't sit there and say, "Oh, it's about the 72 hour mark, let me smoke all of what I have." Moderation is the key to being responsible with this shit (It's always been harder for me on opiates, I have no moderation for my DOC, Opana). It amazes me to this day that I can still save ice instead of burning through it in a day and night. Which, I buy weight when I get it so my quantity (Quality is always there) is great.

I just wanted to say that Adderall is some of the cleanest speed I've done. Some types of speed (Pills) have made my skin crawl, make me a nervous wreck, and so forth. But that's one thing I can say about meth. If I go to work and I've been smoking, I have the ability to stay focused on one task, my mind doesn't race like it usually does, and I have an easier time when I'm multi-tasking. I should go see a doctor about my ADHD, I've just never done so. When I've took Adderall, it was amazing what it did for me. If I'm not using meth or speed, I have 1000 thoughts that go through my head at one time and couldn't stay focused long enough to take a shit.

I'm definitely not saying use meth to help your ADD. Meth gets a bad rep and it is a horrible drug. However, with harm reduction techniques and some good common sense, you don't have to fuck up the way others do when they just don't use their brain. If you do have ADD, let me know how that Adderall helped your situation, if the doctor goes that route. I'm definitely going to see a doc soon because I'm not going to self medicate with meth every day and I enjoy the fact that I can actually think clearly and focus when I'm at work instead of trying to process a thousand things at once. My job requires a lot of multi-tasking as is and I do a damn good job where I'm at, but with ADD, it can be a challenge some days.

Good luck!

 

[Mycophile]

It depends where you live bro. Europe - speed usually means amphetamine. USA - meth (at least that's what most US posters say).

Amphetamine is less fun and less toxic, meth is more fun and more toxic.

What do you mean by this?

Methamphetamine is one of many amphetamines, including Dextroamphetamine, Adderal, Ritalin, and several others, and in general, speed is a slang term for most if not all amphetamines.

There is no one single drug called "amphetamine".

That would be like saying there is a single drug called "tryptamine" or "benzodiazepene".

Amphetamines are a class of drugs.