The Deva Kingdom (Fairies, Elementals, Nature Spirits, etc.)

[Ninae]

Anyone else with any experieence or interest in this subject?

This is one of my favourite subjects for sure, but very elusive, and there is very little information or written about it. Buth Devas are said to be a form of invisible "energy workers" who work on the etheric plane (but can also be on higher planes) that are normally invisible to humans. They are basically creators, and here to create and guard, different areas of Earth and in the Universe.

For instance, they can work with plants, making sure they absorb the water and nutrients they need, or with the human body to ensure all the processes that needs to be happen. Apparently, they can also work out in the Universe, like with building up stars and planet with their energies, and also on the higher spiritual planes. The philosophy behind it is that all living things are ensouled with consciousness, that there is consciousness everywhere where there is life, and that all the creation and maintaining of existing things has to be done by the help of conscious beings as living things don't work like machines.

I have had some experiences with this realm, especially with big, beautiful trees, which can definitely feel very filled with life and consciousness and almost like a form of conscious being in itself. Like, a few weeks ago I was waiting for the bus next to a park, and above me was this enormous, old, beautiful oak, with these high branches which seemed to almost embrace you standing under it. I've also often felt a kind of ecstacy being one with nature. Like lying in a meadow or by the sea on a sunny day, being filled with vitality, and feeling the divine spark in every living thing.

It's said that as God is the life-giver of all living things, anywhere there is life there is also a part of God, even in the mineral kingdom which has a very still and slumber-like kind of consciouesness (and not normally perceivable, except for perhaps crystals, which have a very high vibration and said to have the highest vibration in the material kingdom). So I'm very interested in hearing if anyone has talked to trees or seen fairies, on psychedelics or not, and any ideas you have about it. Except just to say there is no such thing, which isn't very constructrive to the thread and just ruins the possibility of having a thread dedicated to spirituality.

 

[DragonFly31]

I find that concept hard to believe. A plant's biological processes do not work because of some being's presence. Likewise, gravity doesn't work because of anyone's interaction.

If it were the case, let's hope they don't go on strike! Yes, what would happen if they stopped working...

 

[Ninae]

It sounds very surreal, yes, but that is part of the fascinaton about it. Anyway, this realm would basically be invisible and unperceivable by most, so it's a natural reaction to have. What I was wondering about was if there are anyone with any experience or ideas about it.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Is your question about the same devas that are referred to in Buddhist texts, such as The Ārya Saïghàñasåtra Dharmaparyāya? Or does your post have more to do with the devas, or devi, as in Hinduism?

 

[Ninae]

I'm not sure, but it might be an Indian word taken to describe the whole of the Elemental kingdom.

The subject isn't very mainstream, but has been written about extensively by Teosophists, Feemasons, and Rosicrucians, like Geoffrey Hodson and Manly Hall, and other seers. So it seems like a part of the traditional Esoteric teachings, but one of those that is considered classified information and not taught to the public except for in fairytales, etc.

Making it seem more fantasy-like amd unreal. Then most who talk about it like it's something real are ridiculed for their superstituion, etc. But I've read many accounts from intelligent and educated people claiming they've had direct experience with them.

I've found this to be the case with many things I've later discovered are real, like the pineal gland, which is one of the things you would need to perceive them. I also suspect Tolkien, who was also a very learned Theosophist and Freemason, in "the Lord of the Rings" series taught the history of the world as he had been taught it, in myth form. It was a time when "Giants and Elves were roaming the Earth", etc.

And the Hobbits, who are described as simple, ridiculous creatures, or "Halflings", are probably symbolic of humanity, or the more simple and unenlightened forms of it, who doesn't come from a royal line or something like that.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I'm not sure, but it might be an Indian word taken to describe the Elemental kingdom.

The subject isn't very mainstream but has been written about extensively by Teosophists, Feemasons, and Rosicrucians like Geoffrey Hodson and Manly Hall and other great seers. So it seems like a part of the Esoteric teachings but, one of those that is considered classified information and not taught about to the public except for in fairytales, etc. making it seem more unreal.

Then most who talk about it like it's something real will be ridiculed for thir superstituion, etc. I find this to be the case for many things I've discovered is real, like the pineal gland, etc. which is one of those things you would need to perceive them. Ialso suspect that Tolkien, who was also a very learned scholar, Theosophis and Freemason, in "the Lord of the Rings" series and other boks taught about the histry of the world as he had been taught, it in myth form. It was a time when "Giants and Fairies" were roaming the Earth, and the Hobbits who are projected as simple, ridiculous creature, or "Halflings" are symbolic of simple humans.

Define what you mean by "elemental kingdom", please?

I'm not sure, but it might be an Indian word taken to describe the whole of the Elemental kingdom.

The subject isn't very mainstream, but has been written about extensively by Teosophists, Feemasons, and Rosicrucians, like Geoffrey Hodson and Manly Hall, and other seers. So it seems like a part of the traditional Esoteric teachings, but one of those that is considered classified information and not taught to the public except for in fairytales, etc.

Making it seem more fantasy-like amd unreal. Then most who talk about it like it's something real are ridiculed for their superstituion, etc. But I've read many accounts from intelligent and educated people claiming they've had direct experience with them.

I've found this to be the case with many things I've later discovered are real, like the pineal gland, which is one of the things you would need to perceive them. I also suspect Tolkien, who was also a very learned Theosophist and Freemason, in "the Lord of the Rings" series taught the history of the world as he had been taught it, in myth form. It was a time when "Giants and Elves were roaming the Earth", etc.

And the Hobbits, who are described as simple, ridiculous creatures, or "Halflings", are probably symbolic of humanity, or the more simple and unenlightened forms of it, who doesn't come from a royal line or something like that.

Tolkien is a great story teller indeed, that does not mean you can make deductions from analogies relating to the characters represented in such "myth form" to a real life situation.

People have experiences with psychedelics; some of them can be changing for that particular person. However, a line has to be drawn between what is real, and what is fantasy.

 

[Ninae]

Define what you mean by "elemental kingdom", please?

Traditionally those described as Fire-Elementals (Salamanders), Air-Elementals (Sylphides), Water-Elementals (Undines), and Earth-Elementals (Gnomes, Dwarfs, Fairies, etc.) Tree-Elementals are often called Dryads. These are said by many occultist to operate in their each respective element and can be found anywhere they are (Salamanders will be attracted to a fire, etc. and are even necessary to start one).

They are basically servants of creation, on an energy level, and work with living-things and all kinds of matter. In the material realm, they are involved in the creation of gold and precious metals and gemstones, and they are seen as necessary for all kinds of creation. Sometimes it's described as the "Angel-Deva Kingdom", and they are said to be on the lowest level in the angelic hierarchy and can advance when they develop more of a heart and compassionate love for human souls.

I tend to see them more as two separate kingdoms, though, or angels as more like care-takers and protectors of humans. While devas as more like childlike players and energy-workers who get great joy out of their work. They are said to experience a sense of ecstacy or intoxicating rush when they assimilate the energies they work with and release them into water, trees, and flowers, etc.

Tolkien is a great story teller indeed, that does not mean you can make deductions from analogies relating to the characters represented in such "myth form" to a real life situation.

He was also a trained occultist with much knowledge on the subject. And I know there are practitioners of pagan religions who actually hold this belief, even if it seems quite far-fetched. But I think he wrote about an Earth that existed an eternity ago, when the Earth and humanity were more etheric, and seeing and interacting with these creatures was more common. The etheric plane being the highest sub-plane of the physical plane, where they are said to reside, if invisible to most.

People have experiences with psychedelics; some of them can be changing for that particular person. However, a line has to be drawn between what is real, and what is fantasy.

It does sound very fantasy-like, but like I said, that's part of what makes it interesting. But Paracelsus and many of the great philosophers and minds in history have written about it quite extensively, just like it's a matter of course. I don't expect it's a reality many will be able to accept or believe in, however. It seems easier for people to believe in angels and demons than devas as it has been written about much more in many different contexts.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Your views aren't hurting anyone. I'm not going to sit here and pull apart what interests you using logic and reason. There is one quote that expresses my feelings to such a topic, from Bertrand Russell:

'It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this.'

I assume you are female, so this quote does not apply to you

 

[Ninae]

I can see you are a sceptic, and that is fine. Although I intended this thread more for spiritual people to discuss a topic of their interest, as if we can't do that, there's not much point in having a "Spiritual" board. I also have to say there are many intelligent thinkers, philosophers, and scholars I think you would find "reasonable" enough who can account for the existence of this world.

A good example would be Geoffrey Hodson, a Theosophist and seer with great etheric sight, who has written many books about both his personal sightings and philosophy behind it. He says Eastern people and numerous members of the Celtic and other naturally psychic races are familiar with the idea of the existence of this realm. That in the East they are called "Devas", a Sanskrit word meaning "Shining Ones", referring to their self-luminous and radiant appearance. And that they are regarded as "omni-present, superphysical agents of the Creative Will, as builders of form, and directors of all natural forces, laws, and processes".

As you can see he was no imbecile, but highly intelligent, which always helps. He writes like he can see both angels and fairies on an everyday-basis and has som very beautiful desciptions of seeing into this dimension. Here is an example of one of his enchanting descriptions, written in high poetry, of a sighting in The Lake District in England:


"A Fairy Queen

We are surrounded by a group of joyous, dancing fairies. The leader is some two feet tall, clothed in transparent, flowing draperies, and has a star on her forehead. She has large, glistening wings of pink and lavender. Her "hair" is light golden brown and strams behind her.

The form is perfectly modelled and rounded like that of a young girl, and the right hand holds a wand. Her face is stamped with a decided impress of power, especially noticable in the clear, blue eyes which, on occasion, glow as with living fire. Her brow is broad, her features small and rounded, the tiny ears a poem of physical perfection.

The bearing of head, neck, and shoulders is queenly. The whole pose being full of grace. A pale blue radiance surrounds this beautiful creature, while golden flashes of light play around and above her head.

The lower portion of her aura is shell-pink, irradiated with white light. She is aware of our presence, seems to understand my purpose, and has graciously remained more or less motionless for this decription. She holds up her wand, which is about the length of her forearm, and is white and shining, glowing at the tip with golden light.

I hear faint, far-away music, too etheral to capture, such music as might be given forth by diminutive needles, delicately turned and strucked with tiny hammers. It is more a series of tinkles than a consecutive melody, possibly because I am unable to catch the sound. Now the whole group rises into the air and vanishes."


I won't multi-quote in one post, as I believe it's not allowed, even though the book is filled with truly breath-taking descriptions I'm sure many would love to read. I'll look for some of the most special ones for other posts. I remember reading an especially beautiful description of a sighted angel, if I can find it again.

 

[Ninae]

So no-one with ny personal experiences or sightings to share? How disappointing...

I guess this was a bit fancilful for all the sceptics...and the ones who would love to haven't got what it talkes. Let me know if you grduate past tree-hugging - maybe the Hippies were onto something.

P. S. By the way this will be my last thred - except maybe one about Ascencion, as i've been makng some real strides lately - I'm sure to the relief of many who can't seem to stand whatever I write for some reason or other.

 

[babylonboy]

He says Eastern people and numerous members of the Celtic and other naturally psychic races are familiar with the idea of the existence of this realm.

Whoa, now. I don't believe in these things you're talking about, but that's fine, as you say there needs to be room in this forum for those who are not of a skeptical, analytical bent. However, the idea of there being "naturally psychic races" is a little disturbing, presumably the corollary is that some races are not naturally psychic. Are you suggesting that some people are predisposed to have a more full experience of reality than others, purely on the basis of ethnicity?

 

[Foreigner]

Many mystic systems of spiritual understanding not only believe these other realms exist parallel to ours, but they have created models for explaining them.

The ancient Celts, ancient Chinese, and ancient Indians all had legends of a very old time when our realm and the Deva realm co-existed on the same plane, which included interactions with serpent beings of great knowledge. The dragons and nagas of the East are not rooted in mythology, but spiritual practices. There are many shamanic mystics in Asia who claim they can communicate with nagas and that those beings have superior spiritual knowledge.

It's interesting because when you go back far enough, the Sanskrit texts in India talk about serpent Gods guiding mankind. In China, the Shennong Bencao was the first medical text consisting of 50 herbs and very basic acupuncture. It's over 3,000 years old. Shennong was a legendary figure, a humanoid with the head of a serpent, who allegedly taught the Chinese agriculture and the first 50 herbs in their compendium.

In the more mystical side of Tibetan Buddhism (more the Tibetan shamanic side vs. its more recent Buddhist side), it is acknowledged that there are infinite realms above, below and parallel to ours which we are capable of communicating with or reincarnating into. It's what the Wheel of Life is based upon.

On the Celtic side, the most prominent legend I've heard in Irish folklore is that humans used to work with the Devas but then some kind of abuse happened, or a calamity, which ended with the separation of our realms for their protection. There are some humans who claim to work with Devas, like the farmers in Ireland who grow enormous produce without modern technology, but I'm not sure about these claims.

It seems like when you go far enough back in history, there are tales all over the world of humans interacting directly with entities. I'm wondering if the realm separation is true, or maybe if human perceptual ability has just become more dull.

I don't believe that this material earth plane is the only version of earth happening. There are other beings living on this same planet running parallel to us. Some of them are close enough that they can interact with our flora and fauna.

 

[Ninae]

"The President Spirit of a Fall


These young fairies resemble graceful young girls, are entirely unclothed, and are probably from eight to twelve inches tall. Their long "hair" streams behind them and they wear a decoration resembling a garland of small glowers around their foreheads. They play in and out of the fall, flashing through it from different directions, and calling all the time, in wild, unearthly tones.

We are in the bower of bracken and rocks, a veritable fairyland, close to the Lake Districts of England. The undine of this fall looks like a tall and graceful young girl, unclothed, and of singular beauty. She differs in some characteistics of undines previously observed, in that she is taller, has a more highly-devloped intelligence, and auric forces flow out behind her in wing-like form as well as on every side. She seems to ensoul the rocks, trees, ferns and mosses, in addition to the waterfalls and pools.

When first seen she sprang out of solid rock - a marvelously beautiful figure - and remained poised for a moment in the air. Her whole form is a soft rose pink. The "hair" is fair and shining, the brow broad, the features beautifully modelled, the eyes large and luminous. And while their expression has something of the wild, their glance is not unkindly. The auric wings are, too, of a glowing roseate hue.

Even more striking than the form is the rainbow-like aureole which surronds her as a halo sometimes seen to surround the moon. This aura is almost sphecical in shape, and consists of evenly arranged concentric spheres of colour, too numerous and in far too rapid movement for detailed description. It would seem to contain all the colours of the spectrum in their palest shades, with rose, blue, and green pre-dominating.

Some of the spheres of colour are outlined with a golden fire, and beyond the outer edges a shimmering radiance of pearly white gives added beauty to the aureole and lovely form within. Over the head a powerful, upward flow of force interprates the aura in a fan-shaped radiation. This appears to come from a point in the middle of the head, where there is a brilliant golden centre, slightly below the level of the eyes and the midway between them. The whole region of the fall is vibrant with her life.

Poised within the spray, or in the centre of the downward rushing torrent, she gracefully absorbs the radiant energy from the sunlight and the magnetism from the fall. As the limit of absorption is reached, in one dazzling flash of light and colour, she releases the energy with which she has become subcharged. At tht magical moment of release she experiences an ecstacy and exaltation far beyond anything remotely possible to mere mortals dwelling in the prison of the flesh. At that moment, the expression on the face, and particularly in the eyes, is beautiful beyond description. The countenance expresses rapturous joy and a sense of heightened vitality and power whilst the eyes flash with dazzling radiance.

The whole being, the perfect form and brilliant splendour of the auric radiance, combined to produce a vision of enchanting loveliness. This condition is immediately followed by one of dreamy pleasure, in which the consciousness is largely withdrawn from the physical world and its etheric counterpart, and centered in the astral world. The undine etheric body becomes vague and indistinct for the time being, until, she having enjoyed and assimilated the whole process, reappears and the threefold process is repeated. After a time she returns to the quietude of the water depths."



So I hope you enjoyed that description. I know it's a bit long, but it's one of the things that are so dazzlingly beautiful and hard to come by, it almost seems like a crime not to include the whole piece.

Hodson's descriptions are for sure rich in enchantmnet. And enchanemtment sems to be the key-word for the fairy-kingdom - beauty and charm - and a spell-binding emotional quality far out of reach for mere mortals (a this is their speciality - building ravishing forms and filling them with irresistable energies).

The way he describes it, like it's a common part of his life and something he observes every day, I also find it hard to believe it's simply a fairy-tale-like made-up fantasy for our entertainment.

It sounds like it's coming from a real experience, and, on the contrary, faitytales are said to take inspiration from the fairy kingdom, rather than the other way around.

It really does seem like a very, real magical, enchanted world, residing on the highet etheric plane, just above the solid physical. This world has more to do with the Deva kingsom that is real than the fairy-stories that are fantasy, though, although there' s lot of overlap there.

 

[socko]

It sounds like you enjoy communing with Nature. You are lucky if you can find a pristine natural area that's relatively untouched and has been not destroyed by human activity. That's when one can appreciate the things you describe, whether they exist externally to oneself or are only metaphorical and exist within.

About hobbits, I think Tolkien based them on English peasants or country people from his era. Why do you think they are ridiculous? They might have been simple creatures, but in

 

[What 23]

My mom's middle name is Faye. My Dad's and brother's middle names are Wood. My sister's middle name is Jennifer. We called her Jenny. We were from Connersville, in Fayette County, Indiana.

In Islam, it is recognized, however I don't agree with their assessments of their full natures (Religions/people within tend to judge, and be closed minded), that God created three distinct species to worship him. Sentient species. These are Angels first, then "Jinn" (what we think of "Genies", although that's just one type, and perhaps a corrupted image, though I can't say it's not true), then Humans. Jinn were made from a smokeless "scorching fire", and we- Humans, were made from clay. Angels, I think, were made of light.

I haven't read in depth about much of this. None of the writings mentioned by others here, but I have come to have interest. I valued a "what I can see" approach to things, but I have come to see hints of much more than meets the eye, and senses, right off the top. What I might see might be the tip of the ice-burg, so to speak.

I mentioned my family's middle names, because that's some of my personal experience. Faye is another name for Fairy. And "Jenny", could quite easily be a play, or like "Jinni", which is another wording of "Jinn", who are like the fairies/spirits of Islam.

Fairies are common throughout humanity, with stories around. Whispering voices. Tricksters. Teachers. Guides. Spirits in nature. This is why I don't quite go for the often one-sided view of the religion of Islam, to their Jinn, or what has been presented-- That they are subordinate/inferior to humans. That they are "ugly". Yada. I just tend to read this, or run into it quite a bit. Judgments made out of fear. Lumping all foreigners as foreigner. A kind of stereotyping.

It's taught, though, that they have families, like humans. And that they follow similar paths. They can see us, but we can't see them.

Fairies have also been said to have ties with our U.F.O. and alien stories.

I have experience with this. Just recently I had a dream that I was playing a game, and put my character in a "U.F.O."/flying disc of vermilion coloring and then I passed out. I was with a girl at the time, in the dream, who is into fairies- who kind of turned me on to the idea of accepting them... And who one told me was my wife, when I was first with her. I love her.

But the next day, my friend, from my home town, saw his first U.F.O. He's no story-teller. He doesn't lie. And the way he described it was just... intense. It came directly over-top, over some tree tops. Slowly. Lighting everything aqua blue, around. It was egg shaped. Had a smaller circle or egg shape in the center. And on the edges it had this red-orange color. The blue was a soft, energy like blue, becoming thinner until it reached the edge, I think he said. Then the border. Then a ring around it, like rings around a planet, kind of. This was the description of his friend, who was there, and frightened by it. My friend turned to look and saw it "collapse on itself"- into the center circular form and take off in one direction, with a strange kind of blue trail.

Then they heard animals going crazy. And what he said sounded like machines. His friend's dogs who would always attack things, running after any strange noise, were holding back, only barking. And he said he heard something that sounded like a hollowed out tree being swung into tree trunks, perhaps a strange "whoomp" sound, I don't know.

They had ingested mushroom tea. They were very lightly tripping. But the reports of blue light were relayed by others around. Someone braced for impact because he thought it was an asteroid coming, or something, seeing it out his window.

This night, I was driving, on my route. I have other stories to tie in, but I want to not make this too long. But I knew my friend would be having a good night, and I wanted to send him a message, right at about 11:40 or so. Wanted to wish him a gooooooooooood night. Wanted to stretch out the vowels, in some word, to make him smile, in his state. Excitement. To spark excitement. 11:45 is when this arrived.

The next morning, I dreamt, without knowing his experience yet, about the actress Laura Dern. I may come back with links to my blog- some journal entries I made about this stuff, for more detail. Laura was out of nowhere. Out of the blue. At least she was who I first went to, to compare faces. She was who I first thought about. My friend was in Laurel, Indiana. Laura and Laurel area of the same. And Avi concealed herself in my room.

I guess I can say I live in a world of this. I can't quite make everything out, but I try to not make judgments. I guess. I don't know.

Another time, a tornado jumped over top of my friends and I, when we were tripping, on the fourth of July. It began on water- on the lake down below, and climbed the hill.

Later that night, on the golf course (and the dream with Laura Dern had the golf course in it, and Donna- the girl who turned me on to spirits of this kind, who I love), where we spent our time tripping, some of it, my friends saw something land behind a tree. Or it seemed like a "U.F.O.". They only saw very bright lights. Like a car, in the middle of the golf course. I don't really know. But this was in a time when I was off alone, and began calling for them. And I saw nothing like this. And where it was, I feel like I should have.

I have cried. My crying coincided with more and more animals. Birds. Squirrels. Coalescing in front of me, in the woods. Like they were comforting me, or curious about this human crier. But it only made me cry more, and more. I don't often cry. Not out loud. But I remember it reached a peak, where I saw this red-headed bird in the middle of the woods, out in front of me. Rare to see this. It was rather large. I don't know what it was. But it seemed to be looking at me, or aware. Sun was shining through the tree-tops, on it.

Then I made myself stop crying, and it was like these animals were hallucinations. The red-headed bird was gone. The animals were much less. I've considered that my tears may have caused double, and triple, and quadruple images. But I don't think this is the case. They weren't moving exactly the same. It's an experience that makes me wonder, a little. I've never seen a red-headed bird like that, around here. Like a Disney movie, the amount of animals. It made me cry.

I also have certain experience with hearing voices, and synchronicity.

Most recently I met (communicated with) a girl, to inspire me, who was in Lafayette. She's the first since the one above.

Donna, the one above who inspired me, the next woman with the name Donna who I met, at a job- the only female driver there, had the middle name Faye. The first with this middle name that I met other than my mom- the first with this name that I had contact with besides her. And her birthday was the same as my sisters- Jenny's. Also a first. The Donna who I still love had already connected to my mom, by my investigation/sensing. Or shared. Wording...

I don't want to go on and on. Need to go to work.

 

[rickolasnice]

Nature does a good job of looking after itself (in the ways you mention) without the need of invisible fairies nursing them from their teet.

If everything in nature is helped and guided by fairies.. who guides them?

 

[Pagey]

I don't mean this in a scornful way at all, but is there anything specifically that makes you believe in this?

The closest I can relate to all this is with a breakthrough experience I had on psychedelics once, where I could feel/see spirits in trees, although it didn't have anything to do with fairy-like beings. This isn't something I particularly believe in otherwise but that being said, I do think it's pretty interesting that trees seem to be one of the central themes of heavy tripping for many people. Who knows.

 

[Ninae]

Nature does a good job of looking after itself (in the ways you mention) without the need of invisible fairies nursing them from their teet.

If everything in nature is helped and guided by fairies.. who guides them?

What you say implies nature works like a pre-programmed, automatic machinery, without any need for any further assistance. That is, the Creator, whoever that is, created it as a self-running, self-renewing, self-creating organism without any need for any seeing to, and which will run like that forever, and all eternity. And this is what we have been taught. But how do you know HOW it does a good job of "looking after itself"?

While the point of view I come from means pretty much the opposite. Or that all of nature is ensouled by divine consciousness, and that is why you can say God is in all things, and that it takes intelligence, and therefore life and consciousness to create, uphold, and carry out the repairs in the huge organism(s) that is nature, the earth, and the universe. To me, this seems like it would be very hard to achieve - like a room full of computers with no one behind them - to greatly under-exagerrate - without anyone there to do the work.

Even technology needs to be run by conscious beings, and nature is so much more than a technical object, and indeed a whole, living organism, full of consciousness. So I think this philosophy explains pretty well how God or the Creator can be present in all living things, to protect them, and look after their needs, at least until I hear a better model.

But of course you are free to think differently if you think it makes more sense to you. And like I said, I didn't want to make this thread so much for nay-sayers just to waste their time, but more for those who might be open and sensitive to this "reality" (as we perceive it as such).

Also, why do you insist on being, or seeing the world as so un-magical? Has the world taken all the magic out of you? Have you succumbed to our culture (even if you might not have in other ways) to become so prosaic and afraid to voice any views not generally approved of by the establishment and our "culture" - mass-media, education, etc. - in fear of ridicule?

("Being away with the Fairies" being probably one of the most insulting things to your intelligence you can be called - but maybe, in a world full of deception and stupidity, it can actually be a compliment).

All the world - or the official version - can offer us is marvelling at the "miracle" of nature and the wisdom built into it. But how this miracle comes about, and by who, it keeps silent. The everyday person not being seen as worthy of knowledge of these things (and even if they were told they wouldn't believe it - as they have been conditioned otherwise all their life - but a lot of truthi is hidden in plain view and especially in fairytales).


"Come away O'human child, to the waters and the wild, with a fairy hand in hand - for the world's more full of magic than you can understand."

 

[Ninae]

I don't mean this in a scornful way at all, but is there anything specifically that makes you believe in this?

See also above, but I think I will say, "Why not?".

It's an intelligent enough option, and I think the question I will ask you is, don't you believe in sub-creators? That is, lesser beings than The Prime Creator, that all the same are given abilities to create, and has the responsibility of both creating and maintaining the part of creation under their dominion (like the nature-kingdom on earth or the firey nature of the sun).

At least, my understanding of the concept of a "God" is that at the top there is The Prime Creator, the All, an androgynous being which contains both masculine and feminine in perfect balance, whose nature is so complex it's almost a waste of time for us even trying to comprehend it. But, or at in least in the concept of God I lean the most towards, The Prime Creator originally split himself into two beings, one feminine and one masculine, who would become the senior creators of all creation.

That is, carry out the creation of new souls or beings, whether they be human, angel, or deva. As the Prime Source is busy with many so many things, like supplying the power source and overall design of creation. It would make quite a lot of sense he would need the help of lesser beings, to be the builders and uphold the patterns, if only to make themselves useful. "He" himself being "The Great Architect" to borrow a Masonic term.

So below the Prime Creator we have a couple of sub-gods called "Mother-Father God" who would be more like our concept of a personal, caring god, and seen as responsible of over-seeing most of creation, though with the aid of many sub-creators. How many I don't know, exactly, and whether I was created by Mother-Father God or one of their sub-creators I don't know. But what I know is we are ALL sub-creators of Mother-Father God and The Prime Creator.

We are all invested with the ability to create, if even if it's "just" bringing a new human soul into the world. Although we work more as vessels for them to come into this world rather than creators of their souls. So we are indeed sub-creators ourselves, even if we create more in the physical world. One other thing I think I will give you to think about is that one of the greater spiritual teachers of the past decades taught that there are actually 7 types of ensouled beings like us in creation, but that only 3 of them are known to us, that is Human, Deva, and Angel. With devas being the least known or hardest to believe in - but if they reside in another world, like angels, why not?

We all have our specialities, but the deva kingdom I believe are under the dominion of the Mother, or Goddess aspect of God. So, like the angelic kingdom, it's more feminine, with more feminine values like joy, beauty, and love (little girls just love the concept of fairies, don't they?). And, just like us, they have their own tasks to uphold in this world. And even if it takes place in another dimension we have no ability to perceive with our physical senses, that doesn't really prove anything either way.

 

[rickolasnice]

Ninae, you're alternative theories based on nothing other than your delusions is becoming worrying..

People may well think 'ah well believing in fairies isn't hurting anybody'.. it is the way in which you so readily accept each and every "maybe there are **** that do **** for ****" theories as truth. It's all well and good believing fairies are helping plants drink water, that the egyptian ankh is some super powerful tool that harnesses unknown energy.. or that you have a personal telepathic relationship with Jesus.. how long before the "Jesus told me to murder those babies" or "Aliens are trying to control my thoughts.. They're all trying to kill my spirit because of the great war between the 4th and 12th dimensions"..

You need to talk to a professional and stop taking whatever recreational drugs you may be taking and get on some anti-psychotics.. this world you live in is not reality and I for one and honestly worried about you.. you have openly admitted to several suicide attempts in the past year and i can only wonder what delusional idea's made you do it..

Get some help.