Opioids The danger of Etonitazene and Nitazenes.

[MedicinalUser247]

Everybody knows about Fentanyl, but did you know that there's even stronger opioids hitting the streets. There called nitazenes and they can be 2000 times stronger than morphine. A person may think there just buying fentanyl, but they may be buying a much more potent substance. Of course you don't have to worrie sense the main substance on the street is still fentanyl. What are your thoughts on this ?

 

[MedicinalUser247]

 

[someguyontheinternet]

A scary thing about this is that those fentanyl strips won't show positive if your bag has a nitazene in it so you might think its actual heroin

 

[Skorpio]

A scary thing about this is that those fentanyl strips won't show positive if your bag has a nitazene in it so you might think its actual heroin

Yeah, I know of a group that is developing fentanyl vaccines, and I think it's a super fraught proposition as A). Opioid addicts will try to blast through it, and it will cause a biphasic dose response curve once the antibody binding sites are saturated (ie the cause of many loperamide deaths) and B) the presence of nitazenes and things like brorphine mean that it could give a false sense of security.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

And the funny thing is that there so easy to make.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

Here's a video that gives you more information about Nitazenes.

 

[50shadesofDave]

These 'zenes' are mixed in with the benzo pills in the uk. Why you would press that into a benzo???? beyond me.

Wedinos has positive tests for..Bensedin/kern prodes/Accord,actavis and a couple of painkillers.

There are a couple of threads knocking about on this subject.
And i'll say it again, why put this substance in a benzo? there's a ton of more suitable alternatives if diaz is in short supply.

I'm waiting and worried about an avalanche of bad news in many forms as a poster put thier hand up to munching ten at a time.
Becarefull all, and especially UK benzo users.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

I'm just fantasizing here, but would 2-(Dimethoxydiphenylnonane)-3-diethylaminoethyl-5,7-dinitrobenzimidazol work as an analogue ?

 

[fairnymph]

These 'zenes' are mixed in with the benzo pills in the uk. Why you would press that into a benzo???? beyond me.

Wedinos has positive tests for..Bensedin/kern prodes/Accord,actavis and a couple of painkillers.

There are a couple of threads knocking about on this subject.
And i'll say it again, why put this substance in a benzo? there's a ton of more suitable alternatives if diaz is in short supply.

I'm waiting and worried about an avalanche of bad news in many forms as a poster put thier hand up to munching ten at a time.
Becarefull all, and especially UK benzo users.

Diaz really does seem to be in short supply.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

Well I really wouldn't know about that I live in the U.S.

 

[50shadesofDave]

Well, that did'nt take long, i watched a podcast of a guy who travels around the rougher areas of the UK talking to users.

A young lady outside the train station who had been using H cut with xylazine (tested) her legs had open wounds like you would see in a Kensington documentary.

Strap in UK, and as always take care folks.

 

[Smyth2]

I'm just fantasizing here, but would 2-(Dimethoxydiphenylnonane)-3-diethylaminoethyl-5,7-dinitrobenzimidazol work as an analogue ?

You're suggestion of an analog seems like it is not chemically reasonable.

Maybe the alpha-methyl analogs of the nitazenes could work in the same way that it does for other narcotics (e.g. fentanyl)?

The benefit of this is both the potency is enhanced as well as the metabolic durability and resistance to degradation.

This is only a guess though and I could find no hits on pubchem to show this idea has been tested yet.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

Yeah... I gotta work on that.

 

[Smyth2]

Etonitindole is my new idea. I think I have a rough idea how to make it through seeing the Luzindole synthesis. It might not be any good though, it's just an idea that i had recently. I couldn't figure out if one does the nitration for the last step if it enters onto the indole ring at the 5 position.