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^^ your not wrong, tailors are self extinguishing now aswell but I think it has more to do with them takin out additives/chemicals that are originally added to them to make em' burn faster..

Rollies seem go out stupidly quick on their own unless you take drags every 10 - 15 seconds.. Tailors seem to last 3 - 4 times as long...
 
What are you talkin about? Who woudn't want their kids turnin out to be durry charrin' smack junkies :\

Anyway, negative opinions aside, any rollie smokers out there got any tips on how to stop them self extinguishing? Would any of you say rollin em tighter helps this?



You could try holding it filter up (upside down) the cherry climbs if that makes sense. Also I find i can take a breath or two of fresh air before it starts going out. If if it seems like its lacking smoke just bum suck hard, then once it smokes up, inhale again :)

I have found the perfect tightness, if you roll it too tight the airflow gets reduced and you cant enjoy it properly.
 
Take enough tobacco for around 3-4 days of smoking.

Remove it from the pouch and "fluff" or "part" the shag cut tobacco.
Allow the fluffed tobacco to sit in a cool dry room for 2/12 hours checking periodically on the moisture.

It should feel just SLIGHTLY dryer than it left the package.
This makes for a good tobacco that's not overly moist (Made with shelf life in mind)

Coming across tobacco that's too wet to smoke properly in supermarket pouches is quite common.
 
I was always a rollies type of guy.

Used to smoke Port Royal and nothing else. It may have been expensive but hey, I had a job and they taste like a dream :)

Since I lost my job though I've had to be really stingy with my money and currently only buy Choice pouches. A $15 pouch is all I can really afford at the moment :(
 
^ What size are the Choice pouches? I get Champion Ruby from supermarkets for around $18 sometimes and they are a decent smoke.

Coming across tobacco that's too wet to smoke properly in supermarket pouches is quite common.

I haven't ever experienced this, but then again I've only been smoking rollies since the tax hike so probably don't know what I'm talking about compared to you experienced rollers. :o
 
If choice rollies are anything like the tailors I wouldnt touch them with a 10 ft pole.


Winfield Gold 50g is about 30 bucks and thats the bigger size pouch perfect for me.
 
well, i highly doubt its cigaretter related, but im currently in europe for those that dont know touring, long trip, hit alot of the harder nicer euro drugs too... :P

anyways had the most severe asthma attack of my life yesterday, got taken to the estonian emergency department and spent a couple of hours in there, thing is i was never really a strong candidate of asthma, not sure if cause ive been smoking heavier on this trip that its helped it along or not....

but anyways long story short, im trying to quit now. really really scared me, iim on the patches, armed with candy, chocolate and nico-gum....

will miss it, i liked smoking but i wana try hard this time :)
 
So you would be happy if your kids take up smoking then?

Of all the drugs out there tobacco and opiates are the two I would be disappointed if my kids took them up recreationally.

To be 100% honest with you I wouldnt be happy but not overly concerned either. Id see it as just another part of their journey in life and hope that they would enjoy it but stop before its too late like me.

I smoked from the age of 21 to 34 and enjoyed every one of those white and brown soldiers. Opening a fresh deck when you head out for your first drink on a Friday night mmm good times. Like I said that phase is over and while its only been 2 months without a smoke, Im happy cause as the years pass the damage done will repair. If you quit before age 35, then your life expectancy is similar to someone who has never smoked.

Enjoy it while you can I say :\
 
Marlboro lights have been my favorite for a few months.
i've been slowly going down in mg since i started smoking at 15, no idea how i started with Stuyvesant filters, even looking at one now makes me feel a little woozy.
 
[NZ] Tobacco giants can't sue the Government

Big tobacco companies won't be able to sue the Government over anti-smoking laws, Prime Minister John Key says.

Philip Morris Asia, based in Hong Kong, is threatening to sue the Australian government because it intends forcing tobacco companies to sell cigarettes in plain packets.

The action is being taken under a trade agreement between Australia and Hong Kong, and New Zealand has a similar arrangement.

The Green Party says Philip Morris could use the same tactic against New Zealand if Associate Health Minister Tariana Turia gets her way and follows Australia.

But Mr Key said today New Zealand's free trade agreements excluded that risk.

"The best advice I've had is that we wouldn't be able to be sued because we would be protected, in the public interest, in terms of health," he said at his post-cabinet press conference.


"Someone can always take an action against the Government, but whether they would be successful is a very different issue."

If the tobacco giant won a case against the Australian government it could claim billions of dollars in damages because its trademark had been compromised.

Mrs Turia said last month she wasn't going to be deterred by the company's threats.

However, she could not confirm the Government would go ahead with the policy.

"It's something that needs to be looked into really carefully -- we don't want to get ourselves into a situation where we're wasting taxpayer money fighting these tobacco companies because they're incredibly wealthy," she said.

Australia's plain packet law comes into effect in a year.


here
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/07/05/3261381.htm?section=justin

Anti-smoking drug linked to heart attacks

By Emily Bourke

A new study into the anti-smoking drug Champix has renewed concerns about the drug, showing it is associated with an increased risk of heart attack and stroke.

An international study published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal found that people who used it had a 72 per cent higher chance of serious cardiac problems.

About 1.5 million packets of Champix have been dispensed in Australia since its introduction in 2007.

It has not been without controversy, with concerns already raised about the drug's psychiatric side effects.

But after analysing more than a dozen clinical trials, Champix is now being blamed for compounding a smoker's risk of heart attack and stroke.

Dr Sonal Singh from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine in the United States, who co-authored the study, says it is a paradox.

"The paradox is that we take drugs to reduce cardiac risk and what we are seeing is exactly the opposite," he said.

"Among smokers both with and without heart disease we see a substantial increase in serious cardiac risks with Champix - substantial meaning more than 70 per cent.

"All of these have to be taken into consideration with these new psychiatric effects which we are learning more and more about."

And he says the risks persist at least 12 months after the drug treatment ends.

"We don't want people to think that smoking is better - but it becomes harder when the primary purpose of smoking cessation is to reduce cardiac risk and you have the most widely used drug in the world that does just exactly the opposite," he said.

"It's going to be hard to balance, because how am I going to tell my patients that, 'well, you're going to have a short-term risk for a year and then maybe it will decline', because we've never seen studies of Champix going on beyond a year."

Not a new risk


But the cardiac risk may not be entirely related to Champix, according to Renee Bittoun, the head of the Smoking Research Unit at Sydney University's Brain Mind Research Institute.

"I was there in the 1980s when we had nothing to give patients, none of those nicotine products, none of this medication to help smokers quit," she said.

"There were people with increased cardiac events just on the idea that they were going to stop smoking, meaning it made them very nervous, it made them more distressed and that increases your risk of vascular events."

Despite the risks, Professor Garry Jennings from the Baker IDI Heart and Diabetes Institute is standing by the drug.

"Out of the drugs that are used, it's probably the most effective, it probably has double the number of people that are able to stop smoking for a good length of time," he said.

"But that doesn't mean it works in everyone."

But Dr Singh says the Australian drug regulators cannot be confident about the safety of Champix.

"This drug was brought on under the rubric of that this was a new class of drugs that will not have any safety problems and now we know that it has some of the most amount of safety problems of any drug on the market," he said.

"So I think regulators worldwide need to look at how they approve new therapies."

Warnings are already contained in the product information kit for Champix but the Therapeutic Goods Administration says it will review the safety profile of Champix as a result of the new research.
 
^ What size are the Choice pouches? I get Champion Ruby from supermarkets for around $18 sometimes and they are a decent smoke.



I haven't ever experienced this, but then again I've only been smoking rollies since the tax hike so probably don't know what I'm talking about compared to you experienced rollers. :o

Can depend on even your state level distribution standards for re-stocking and taking old stock back and the popularity of your brand in any given area etc.

The pendulum swings both ways.

Too wet And Too dry, and both can be fixed with a lot of ease, tobacco is good like that, you can rehydrate it if you can loosen the shag and distribute something odorless and moist like lettuce or apple, this brings it back to its good self without much flavor adjustment. =D
 
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i've come across wet and dry tobacco pouches, mainly champion ruby as they're my rolly of choice, and can both wet and dry pouches can easily remedied using those techniques.

belarki said:
^ aren't tailors made to self-extinguish now too, to lower incidents of accidental fires? I'm not sure whether it's something added to the tobacco or the papers themselves? Or I could be completely wrong,... wait here we go:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...18/2849377.htm

yep, that's correct.

my aunt was complaining to me about this a few months back and i explained it to her. she's still managed to ruin a few keyboards though by falling asleep with them in hand.
 
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