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The Cigarette Thread

^ I notice relief of stress, calming... also improves euphoria from opioids. I'm a habitual smoker though, I don't think I really got the decrease of stress thing until after I'd been smoking for a while.

So how many cigs a day do you smoke on average then? I Use to smoke
3 packs a day when i was 19(im 22 now) but that includes tobacco i use
to grow myself, no lie, when i was a smoker, good ' ol homegrown oven-cured
tobacco was the finest and strongest blend i'd ever encountered, the taste
was sensational, as was the strength, it was like inhaling rocket-fuel.

I Haven't touched any kind of tobacco product for six months now.
 
Well i think you and other smokers really need too, i know
it's illegal to grow tobacco in australia. But ask around for seeds.

As it's not illegal to posess the seed's i don't think, just the leaf.
 
My friend works at a liquor store and gives me a free pack of cigarettes every day. Kinda makes quitting impossible haha. But whatever, I smoke my Parliament full flavors with pride
 
The tobacco plant itself(Nicotiana tabacum) is absolutely beautiful,
i once had one that grew up to about 1.9 m high. It was only a year
old and i grew it from seed. Must have given me about 3000 puffs or
cigars in total before i finally cut it down with an electric saw(it's a
semi-woody plant once it reaches a certain height) so the stem was
like wood from a tree. The flowers are absolutely beautiful and pretty.

It's also one of the most toxic plants, people say that ingesting one raw
leaf gives them a ' poisoned kind of visuals ' but i never tried that, didn't
wanna brush with death. It contains traces of up to about 155 alkaloids and
even has a protein in it's leaf that they extract and use as a ' raw protein powder
' for foods and such, it really is a plant of many uses, kinda like dope i guess.
 
Right to puff in public places goes up in smoke

SMOKING will be banned in outdoor areas including bus stops, taxi ranks, playgrounds, public sports grounds, swimming pools and public entries to buildings under reforms the state government is to introduce within months.
The Health Minister, Jillian Skinner, said yesterday an election promise to the clubs industry prevented bans being implemented in outdoor commercial dining areas until 2015.
The statewide measure will apply four metres from any building to which the public has access - but not to private homes.
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"The statewide measure will apply four metres from any building to which the public has access - but not to private homes". Photo: Tamara Dean
Beaches are not included in the reforms but the government supports smoke-free policies introduced by some councils.
Local health districts will be able to introduce bylaws to impose penalties for smoking on hospital grounds.
In October 2010 the Coalition signed a memorandum of understanding with Clubs NSW, which says a NSW Liberal and National government would ''uphold existing smoking restrictions including those relating to the service and consumption of food, beverage and gaming in outdoor areas''.
Mrs Skinner said the government would honour the agreement until 2015 when smoking would be banned in outdoor dining areas.
Simon Chapman, a professor and director of research at the University of Sydney school of public health, said the memorandum was not legally binding.
''If the government wanted to show a bit of leadership and get a bit of respect they would say things have changed,'' he said.
''I smell the odour of club industry political donations influence.
''We know smoking bans have had zero impact on the restaurant trade. People just accommodate them and would walk to somewhere like the car park to smoke.''
Professor Chapman said he supported smoking bans in confined outdoor areas such as stadiums but did not agree with them in wide-open spaces such as parks, streets and beaches - apart from crowded areas between the flags.
''Bus shelters and taxi ranks can get very crowded, so I support that,'' he said.
The head of the NSW Cancer Council, Andrew Penman, welcomed the smoking bans and said he was ''pragmatic'' about the government's decision to delay their introduction in outdoor dining areas.
''The history of tobacco control has been a history of compromise,'' Dr Penman said.
Mrs Skinner said smoking-related illness caused more than 5000 deaths and 44,000 hospital admissions each year in NSW and cost $8 billion.
"The distress and cost that smoking inflicts on families, and the burden this imposes on NSW's health system is simply not acceptable," she said.
The strategy would target Aboriginal communities and people with mental health problems, which had high rates of smoking, she said.
The opposition spokesman on health, Andrew McDonald, welcomed the bans as ''good policy''.
The NSW Greens MP John Kaye said the government's ''sweetheart deal'' with the clubs industry ''was a triumph of electoral politics over sensible tobacco control measures''.
A spokesman for Clubs NSW said its members were ''broadly supportive of the new smoking laws, just as they were with the indoor smoking bans when they were introduced five years ago''.
''The MOU sought an assurance for the first term only of the government so that clubs would have sufficient time to finance any renovations required … should a ban be introduced,'' he said.
''Clubs NSW will be urging the government to take a commonsense approach to the details of the law so that in dedicated smoking areas club members can still chew gum or eat potato chips''.

From here.

NSW is going to be like QLD now. :\
 
^ Good work! :D

I love smoking, but I still appreciate how hard it is for someone who wants to give it up to do so. I've seen my parents struggle with it for years... I suppose my chain smoking doesn't help them though. ;)
 
that article you posted above, mr blonde, is very interesting.
i will say off the bat that i am not a smoker, don't particularly like being around cigarette smoke and that i generally support the health campaigns against tobacco. i guess this is partly from losing family members to the horrors of lung cancer and thinking that people should be informed that it's potentially deadly (unlike previous generations who were told that 'the jury's out' in regard to cancer links) etc etc.

but what the fuck? seriously, i mean it's one thing to ban smoking indoors or in enclosed spaces - but it's starting to get out of hand.
it seems as though legislators have latched on to the fact that "tough on [insert unpopular vice]" is a vote winner, no matter what the context is, so the restraints on what we do just increases all the time.
and i'm no liberatarian - i think rights need to be balanced with responsibilities but this idea that fighting a) tobacco related health problems b) the power and influence of tobacco corporations c) smoking rates in young people by marginalising and stigmatising smokers is starting to get silly.
it seems that enough people in australia seem to welcome "nanny state" reforms for them to be popular, but i really wonder where they're going to go next with this - they must be starting to run out of options now, surely?
it seems that rather than addressing a problem, they're introducing restrictions for the sake of it.

i don't usually think from a cigarette smoker's perspective, but i'm starting to feel for you guys.
 
i'm an ex-chain-smoker, well i only smoked for
a year and a half but i smoked at least 2 ppd
in that period. Now though i avoid tobacco like
the plague but i admire you smokers who keep
your habit, bravery at it's finest. I Would say. :-)
 
The tobacco plant itself(Nicotiana tabacum) is absolutely beautiful,
i once had one that grew up to about 1.9 m high. It was only a year
old and i grew it from seed. Must have given me about 3000 puffs or
cigars in total before i finally cut it down with an electric saw(it's a
semi-woody plant once it reaches a certain height) so the stem was
like wood from a tree. The flowers are absolutely beautiful and pretty.

It's also one of the most toxic plants, people say that ingesting one raw
leaf gives them a ' poisoned kind of visuals ' but i never tried that, didn't
wanna brush with death. It contains traces of up to about 155 alkaloids and
even has a protein in it's leaf that they extract and use as a ' raw protein powder
' for foods and such, it really is a plant of many uses, kinda like dope i guess.

I had one grow underneath my room, that reached a good 2m high, currently have one growing randomly (seeds must have dropped from my other plant).
 
I had one grow underneath my room, that reached a good 2m high, currently have one growing randomly (seeds must have dropped from my other plant).

yeah man, it seeds prolifically. do you smoke it or just let the
bee's and birds have it? :d
 
I never seem to get into chain smoking. The most I'll start smoking is once a day, then after a few days I'll just get sick of it and stop for a month or so. Really, cigarettes aren't for me most of the time - they just make me sick after a while.
 
The tobacco plant itself(Nicotiana tabacum) is absolutely beautiful,
i once had one that grew up to about 1.9 m high. It was only a year
old and i grew it from seed. Must have given me about 3000 puffs or
cigars in total before i finally cut it down with an electric saw(it's a
semi-woody plant once it reaches a certain height) so the stem was
like wood from a tree. The flowers are absolutely beautiful and pretty.

It's also one of the most toxic plants, people say that ingesting one raw
leaf gives them a ' poisoned kind of visuals ' but i never tried that, didn't
wanna brush with death. It contains traces of up to about 155 alkaloids and
even has a protein in it's leaf that they extract and use as a ' raw protein powder
' for foods and such, it really is a plant of many uses, kinda like dope i guess.

It is indeed a beautiful plant. Got a photo of a stand of it in Zambia. How did you find the smoke? I personally dont smoke much but I was warned off the home grown that was for sale there as it is meant to be a bit rough. They cure it in big industrial ovens so I imagine home cured would be better. Personally I prefer snus but I have no idea how to cure the leaf for that?

This was in the middle of the wet season I think they only grow it for one year:
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o496/justsaynao/2440_65408984312_508179312_1265875_7452_n.jpg
 
There have been a couple of posts asking about sources for e-cigs. I understand the argument for this, but it's not a decision that us AusDD mods can just make so I'm removing the posts for now and taking it up with staff. Will report back on it when I have an answer either way.
 
Also how does e-cigarette compare to putting high quality tobacco into a vaporiser? Not price wise but taste and effect wise. I find the vape too similar to smoking to be enjoyable but maybe an electronic cigarette would be better for me than snus.
 
A cigarette is best enjoyed whilst having a coffee or gurning your face off :)

Oh yeah on a nice dose of codeine it is preety killa too :D

I do worry about the damage I am doing but I am only smoking roughly 10 a day.

LOL @ the hate comments...
 
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