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The Cigarette Thread

OK, I smoke rollies, and I spose I am 3 packs into plain packaging. I must admit, picking up a plain package of drab green smokes to roll a ciggy with, (I think) does actually kill the buzz for me a bit. We are visual people (especially males :)) And I could put my new baccy in an old pack, but.. for me. a pack starts as a new pack, and by the time it has finished, it is old, been battered about, and looks used abused and finished, so refilling an old pack with 50g of fresh weed would be fooling myself.
I will still continue to smoke till I give up, and maybe the plain packs will assist, ... I have been at BBqs or whatever and people have seen me rolling a ciggy, and commented, "ah! Port Royal, I used to love the smell of that! " or insert brand name. Thats positive reinforcement, a strong motivator. I love smoking I hate it. If plain packacing tips me over the edge to quit, well, bring it on...
 
Busty St Clare said:
I had to pay tax on my last contract but my club picked up my medical bills. I couldn't tell you if the club paid taxes, it was Italy so it probably involved some sort of dodgy under the table payment to a government official. Last time I checked there are very few professional smokers. It would be hard to sell advertising on their shirts I'd imagine.
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Actually, it's illegal AFAIK, otherwise there probably would be smoking logos all over the motherfuckers. Except now, now they would just have some dudes fucked up looking, gangrene foot on a dull grey colour on their backs.
 
Just had a tasty Winfield. Went well until the wind slammed my balcony door on my heel & I dropped my coffee.
 
i use to smoke years ago, used to spin weed with tobacco back ages ago smoke it straight now, i might smoke a cigg if im drinking and weed is not around....glad i don't smoke now though, prices are incredibly high for smokers these days.
 
Jakeperson said:
The more they try and make cigarettes unappealing the more appealing I find them.
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^this^

My friends and I are loving our smoking rations. This army khaki style is awesome. I was also always partial to the Clockwork Orange eye warning.

Agree with Spacejunk's rant regarding the branding 100% - even from a stinking-filthy-idiot-leper smoker.
 
Plain packaging leaves bad taste in smokers' mouths

NOT only do they look plain but smokers are complaining that cigarettes taste worse now they are in the green packaging that becomes mandatory from tomorrow.

Advice group Quitline and Facebook fan sites have been inundated with comments saying their smokes taste "pathetic", "sickening" and lack flavour now they come in one-colour packets dominated by vivid health warnings.

Tobacco companies deny changing ingredients, while pundits say the issue highlights the power of branding.

A spokeswoman for Imperial Tobacco Australia, which makes Peter Stuyvesant, Davidoff, Horizon and Camel, said the company had "not changed any of our tobacco products".

"Consumers of ITA's products can be assured that our high quality products will remain the same," she said.

British American Tobacco, which makes Winfield, Benson & Hedges and Dunhill, also denied changing the makeup of their cigarettes.

But Quitline's Fiona Sharkey said: "People are blaming the government saying, 'I think they've changed the inside and the taste'.

"If those comments don't spell out how important branding is, I don't know what does."Action on Smoking and Health's Anne Jones said the complaints showed why the government was right to target the branding of cigarettes in its bid to drive smoking rates down.

http://www.news.com.au/business/com...n-smokers-mouths/story-fnda1bsz-1226527002998
 
Captain Brewster said:
I suppose it's a method of letting all the non-smokers know that the campaign worked.

'Look we were so right, everyone only likes smokes because of the packaging, all our plans work, see'.
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I smoke because I am addicted to nicotine no other reason. I do believe that there is a correlation between my primary cigarettes over the years being Winfield & B&H simply because I grew up watching the Winfield Cup NSWRL & B&H sponsored cricket. Advertising does work but as an addict they could put them in pink packs with cocks all over them & I would still smoke them.

Much in the same way after watching a session of cricket I have a craving for dirty bird due to the amount of ads they show & weed I have smoked.
 
Cigarettes in plain packs 'taste worse'

REPORTS from smokers that cigarettes in plain packs taste worse could be an early indication the new laws will be effective in reducing smoking rates, health experts say.

Cancer Council chief executive Ian Olver said it was well-established through more than 20 years of research that branded packaging was a powerful marketing tool for recruiting new smokers.

But he said there were early indications that even existing smokers were being turned off by new laws that take effect from Saturday requiring cigarettes to be sold in drab brown packaging, including health warnings that cover 75 per cent of the pack.

''We were always confident that plain packaging would take away a lot of the glamour that seduces young people into a tobacco addiction, because the evidence is so compelling," Professor Olver said.

But he said the plain packs, which manufacturers have been required to produce since October, also appeared to be having an effect on existing smokers.

''We've heard that some smokers suspect the flavour of the tobacco in the plain packs tastes worse and has been changed, when it hasn't,'' he said.

''It's more likely that without the glossy pack and the iconic branding, tobacco is simply tasting more like the lethal poison that it is.''

University of Sydney professor of public health Simon Chapman said he had received ''several emails and phone calls from smokers saying, 'I've been buying my brand in new packaging but it tastes terrible and I've decided to quit'.''

He said the phenomenon had caused ''a lot of animated discussion in my field; this might be quite big''.

''The thinking has always been that the biggest effect will be on future generations, they will not have grown up having ever seen lovely packaging.

''It will take a generation for that effect to work in … but if there are also effects on existing smokers, it will be an unexpected bonus.''

Quit Victoria executive director Fiona Sharkie said smokers were phoning the Quit helpline saying, ''I was thinking about quitting and that ugly picture has pushed me over the edge.''

Tobacco manufacturers said they did not believe plain packaging would have any impact on smoking rates. A spokeswoman for Imperial Tobacco said: ''Packaging has never been identified as the reason people choose or continue to smoke.''

http://www.smh.com.au/national/plain-packs-put-off-smokers-20121129-2aitp.html

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Smokes definitely taste different in plain packs. I had one old pack & one new pack & compared them. The new packs had thicker cigarettes & different tobacco (after a pulled them apart). I believe they are ripping us off.
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You'd think so hey, doesn't seem logical that the ingredients would be changed, but maybe they have and maybe they are cheaper ingredients and it will make the major companies more profits. Or they are trying to keep up their profits when the market may be dropping. Or maybe its just BS lol.
 
If anything, one would think that the weed sellers would compensate for crap packaging by filling with better quality gear, rather than sweepings from the packing shed floor. I am trying .to keep objective in my judgement of my packet of port royal, but I am leaning toward inferior quality. It's entirely possible that I am more affected by packaging than I know
 
there's certainly been no quality/taste/what-the-fuck-ever change in champion ruby roll your own or B&H smoothe.

it's government spread conspiracy to further cut down smoking rates. derp.
 
Whats the g.o. with the letters & numbers on the actual smokes/butts? I smoke Winfield or Styvo's, and they both had different letters & numbers on them.
I'm guessing its some sort of code/serial number for different brands etc?
 
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