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The Bikie Wars

the only this bikies are good for a for bringing in good drugs and they dont even seem tobe doing that well anymore i think its time for these attation seeking fuckwits to get there shit together all join and bring australias drug trade up to par with europ!!!the only good bike gang is the CC's they sold me the only MDMA ive ever had in my life
 
Carl Williams Killer Named

The man accused of killing gangland murderer Carl Williams can be named after court orders suppressing his identity were lifted on Tuesday.

Matthew Charles Johnson, 37, formerly of Berwick, is charged with the murder of Williams, who was fatally bashed while in Barwon Prison's high-security Acacia Unit last April.

Two suppression orders prohibiting the release of Johnson's identity were lifted by a Victorian court on Tuesday.

Johnson will face the Geelong Magistrates' Court on Friday for a pretrial committal mention over Williams' death.
 
This isn't really suitable for AusDD... I'll move it to the carl Williams thread just incase people want to know, this seemed like the best place for it. Seeing as the Carl William thread is burried.
 
Why? people post news all the time and this is pretty big news IMO and deserves its own thread.
 
The redirect is still there, people will see it. We have a new-ish news policy here at AusDD, unless it has some HR value, or influences the Australian Drug Scene directly, then it has no place as a stand alone thread.
 
Bikie link to firebombed tattoo parlour

POLICE are investigating whether a tit-for-tat feud between rival Rebels and Rock Machine bikies is to blame for the firebombing of a Bibra Lake tattoo parlour early this morning.

A City of Cockburn security officer responding to an alarm at the Ink Assault tattoo shop called police and firefighters to the Port Pirie St premises at 2.40am. There, they found the crude remains of two Molotov cocktails.

A FESA spokeswoman said the small fire had been extinguished by the time the Murdoch fire crew arrived.

The damage bill is estimated at about $1000 and limited to a carpet in the reception foyer.

Detective Superintendent Charlie Carver, head of the Serious and Organised Crime Squad, said police were probing whether the fire attack was a retaliatory strike between the two clubs because the shop was owned by a Rebels member.

Police had long monitored simmering tensions between the two gangs, since Rock Machine set up its national headquarters in WA about 18 months ago, he said.

The Rock Machine, a bikie gang with origins in Canada, has about 20 members and a clubhouse in Kardinya.

The Rebels is a 50-strong club with bases in Victoria Park, Osborne Park, Rockingham and Busselton.

"There has been history of the two gangs in the past. We are aware of that history in relation to the Rock Machine and the Rebels,'' Det-Supt Carver said.

"We are always worried and concerned for the members of the public in relation to escalation (of violence) between outlaw motorcycle gangs.

"Let's not fool ourselves, the business they are in is about drug dealing, it's about extortions ... this is about territory, this is about who's coming into the patch.''

But Det-Supt Carver said he was not concerned about the prospect of police having to investigate two turf wars between four bikie gangs, acknowledging ongoing tensions between the Coffin Cheaters and Finks.

"We will continue the efforts against these outlaw motorcycle gangs and what they do and what they put out in the public. Most of that is drug-related and most of that is about the money,'' he said.

The Rock Machine, which has links to the Bandidos, is notorious for a violent turf war with the Hells Angels in Canada between 1994 and 2001.

That violence left 162 people dead, including an 11-year-old boy who was killed when a car bomb exploded in the street where he was playing.

Detectives investigating the incident at the tattoo parlour want to speak service station attendants or members of the public who saw one, two or three men filling up a jerry can or jerry cans at any petrol stations before the attack.
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http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/bikie-tattoo-parlour-firebombed/story-e6frg13u-1225954495935
 
Fucking bikie wars....lol...this aint nuthing like it used to be...bikies arent hardcore...al they do is fucking make loud noises with there big badass harley davidsons....and im talking bikies, not motorcycling enthusiasts...

and fyi, they are well intergrained in the transportation of marijuana/'methamphetamine' across interstate boundaries, which is why the AFP becomes involved in the matters, because if the dumbass bikies had any common sense theyd just stay in there own little state and send a string of mules across the borders for the pickup.

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im talking bout aussie bikies here. american/canadian bikies are not to be fucked with lol, and you can take that shit to the bank and cash that cheque in.
 
^ Your right, as far as intensity in bikie wars goes Australia is alot more tamed then the US. But then we are alot more tamed as far as violence goes in general and we can't all carry a piece legally either. Thats not to say that such things don't exist. There are constantly battles being faught and your post is really disinformative and you sound immature calling them dumbasses. Lower tiered bikies are mules. You think someone who has risen to a respected position is going to be carrying large quantites around the country?

Bikies don't just transport drugs. Its holds an integral web in organised crime. Large quantites can be dumped on individuals with time frames to rid the product. Doing so in set timeframes can offer bonuses and larger amounts ticked in future as well as respect. To be able to tic pounds of meth i don't think there not 'hardcore' enough to have a threatening enough presence to not be fucked over or to follow up on loose ends. Wits earns money, not stupidly open killings of rivalry gangs just to look 'hardcore.'
 
Dude, when was the last time that a gun battle, im talking machine guns and shit ar-15's and uzi's and shit, erupted in our city streets in the last 50 years? None. How many murders does Australia have each year? 209. Wanna make that 210, well then keep on fucking around with the people that you do fuck around with, cuz alot of underground shit, i.e. Camorra gangs infiltrating the bikies and shipping in shitloads of yay in through Queensland Ports. Get out and stay out brother.
 
^ What's your point exactly? He agreed that they aren't as violent here as overseas. That doesn't mean that they don't have manpower or firepower, or that they aren't powerful criminal organisations. It doesn't mean they are either.
 
I don't want to be a storyteller or encourage anyone else to be; but always remember that you don't hear about everything that happens on the news. Not every gangland shootout gets national media attention.

In regards to comparing Australia to the United States, there is quite a few factors to take in. Most obvious is the size disparity between our nations. Logically, the more people, the more power criminal orginizations can become, and therefore the more potential for violence between organised criminals fighting over real estate. Larger organised criminal networks usually also have links to cartels and other financiers with a name for violence. With Australia being a relitively small and isolated country the incentive for these large criminal groups to move in is less than other, more populated countries in the western world.

Another big factor is the difference in Australia and America's minimum wage, social equity and education standard. In Australia the lower classes earn more and are better educated, therefore are less driven to drug related or violent crime.

I think it also helps we don't have the CIA casually smuggling hundreds of tonnes of Cocaine and Heroin from our Southern neighbour.
 
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I don't want to be a storyteller or encourage anyone else to be; but always remember that you don't hear about everything that happens on the news. Not every gangland shootout gets national media attention.

In regards to comparing Australia to the United States, there is quite a few factors to take in. Most obvious is the size disparity between our nations. Logically, the more people, the more power criminal orginizations can become, and therefore the more potential for violence between organised criminals fighting over real estate. Larger organised criminal networks usually also have links to cartels and other financiers with a name for violence. With Australia being a relitively small and isolated country the incentive for these large criminal groups to move in is less than other, more populated countries in the western world.

Another big factor is the difference in Australia and America's minimum wage, social equity and education standard. In Australia the lower classes earn more and are better educated, therefore are less driven to drug related or violent crime.

I think it also helps we don't have the CIA casually smuggling hundreds of tonnes of Cocaine and Heroin from our Southern neighbour.
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Thats a quality post my man, hit the nail on the head couldnt of said it better.
 
Sameria said:
I don't want to be a storyteller or encourage anyone else to be; but always remember that you don't hear about everything that happens on the news. Not every gangland shootout gets national media attention.

In regards to comparing Australia to the United States, there is quite a few factors to take in. Most obvious is the size disparity between our nations. Logically, the more people, the more power criminal orginizations can become, and therefore the more potential for violence between organised criminals fighting over real estate. Larger organised criminal networks usually also have links to cartels and other financiers with a name for violence. With Australia being a relitively small and isolated country the incentive for these large criminal groups to move in is less than other, more populated countries in the western world.

Another big factor is the difference in Australia and America's minimum wage, social equity and education standard. In Australia the lower classes earn more and are better educated, therefore are less driven to drug related or violent crime.

I think it also helps we don't have the CIA casually smuggling hundreds of tonnes of Cocaine and Heroin from our Southern neighbour.
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The truth is people in Australia are more civilised look at this mexican drug war people r being kidnapped and beheaded and tortured and burned alive.Or in los angales the gangs kill more people in a week than australia has murders in a year.Its because we have a much easier life than those places.Its true if u put all of australias bikie gangs togather against just 1 LA gang like ms13 or the crips they would be wiped out because they dont have the killing experiance or dont have as much money as even a street gang.The guys here r big fish in small pond.If they were in another major city like new york or la or amsterdam they never would of made it
 
With the polititions attempting to make it illegal for these clubs to even exist, it seems things have gone a little quiet on the gun play front. Although I hear the comancheros have it in for all members of the Ibrahim family and their mates in Notorious so it may not be quiet for too long. Kings Cross is still a gold mine for whoever controls the drug supply ...
 
Mr squiggle- some things you wrote makes me think you watch alot of american gangster movies and doco's. You asked, when are there ever shootings in australia or gangs using uzi's etc? well there are actually shootings regulary in australia, there would maybe even be some in brisbane, maybe where you live isn't a main area, cos i think it would be more common in major organised crime locations, most gun crime, gang shootings and murders in australia are in sydney(syd averages double murder rate of melbourne even during their gang wars), most is never mentioned. gangs here control the nations imported ice, heroin and cocaine and the bikie gangs Have a big hand in that pie. in south west sydney there is at least 1 shooting a week, and mak-10s and other assualt weapons seem to be choice here in sydney now. Bikie gangs are well known and Have for ages to work with foreign Groups in the common interest of money. You need to take into consideration that the usa has very different gun laws to us, imagine how many stabbings that you hear that would become shootings if australians had the same laws, and trying to say that the street gangs the crips and ms13 would destroy our groups is just nonsense, your comparing un-organised gangs made up with teenagers to an organised motorcycle gangs. Those street gangs are just well armmed to australian standards but in the usa that counts for nothing. If they were so strong they would Have control over the bikie gangs and mafia groups over there which they def dont. They standover local businesses in their suburbs thats all, they defineately dont make anywhere near the amounts thats australia's bikie's do, and trying to say they Have more killing experience, well that depends from person to person.
 
^ I haven't heard of many bikie related shootings or anything in Brisbane, maybe I just don't hear about it but I'm sure it's happened.

I live right near a Bandidos club though, ha ha. :D
 
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They are a little more low key in Brissy as far I as am aware.

Having known a few Bandidos in the past (not anymore) and more recently in talking with one of The Rebels it seems the trouble is the merging of clubs and members crossing over and the emergence of new gangs which in reality are not real bikies.

I have seen a new group around abit lately with origins in NZ that are setting up in SE QLD.

Mostly I think they all tend to avoid each other. Most of them are normal with jobs like you and I and there's the odd few in the club that walk on the other side of the law from time to time.
 
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