• 🇳🇿 🇲🇲 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇦🇺 🇦🇶 🇮🇳
    Australian & Asian
    Drug Discussion

    Welcome Guest!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
  • AADD Moderators: andyturbo

The Bikie Wars

haha, spacejunk,

you are absolutely right YO.

No I dont actually beelive taht Sydney is solely runn'd by Azn triads etc etc. Nor the Brothels :D

I just said what I said, to stir up mr.Kronniicca. He seems to think he knows a hell of a lot about Syd's underworld.

But realistically, bahhahhaha, He knows fuckall :)

so here I say again.

Azn Pride ;>

GOT RICEEEEEEEEEEEEE

A
 
spacejunk said:
this isn't directed at anyone in particular, but i think all this crap about [whatever] group runs [whatever] percentage of [whatever] is just pointless speculation.
there are bikie affiliations with all sorts of organised crime, as there are with various other gangs or groups.
whether these gangs are ethnically based or have a motorcycle club culture is neither here nor there - in some areas, bikies are dominant/visible whereas in other areas, it may be (or seem) completely different.

brothels are all run by one nationality? yeah right! maybe where you are, but i don't think this is the case australia wide. i don't frequent or have anything to do with brothels or prostitutes but i live in a red light district, and what i've observed over the last ~5 years isn't consistent with that at all. yes, there are asian sex slaves in australia, but i really don't think it is the whole industry.
just because it might be the case somewhere, doesn't make it the case everywhere.

sydney has a well publicised gangland situation at the moment, and other cities and regions have their own outlaw groups.
just because the scene is dominated by an underworld culture in one area doesn't make it true for the whole country or even the entirety of that local area. the assumption that "lebanese gangs", "asian gangs" and "bikie gangs" (etc etc etc) don't cooperate and collaborate when it suits them seems a bit simplistic. some people have their fingers in a lot of pies, but this idea that it is all universal is just not true. maybe in sydney, but i don't know - i don't live there.

not to mention the fact that the tabloid press reporting on something doesn't make it true. "the news" is not a source of accurate information, especially in matters of crime. sex, drugs, violence, gangs; sensational, lurid headlines - designed to sell papers - which is what they exist for. they're not there to inform us of the important issues of the day, but to put out the juiciest headline possible to make joe everyman go and buy one so he can get his vicarious thrill from reading it. everybody loves a gangster story, especially with a bit of racial bogeyman thrown in. this is a journalist's bread-and-butter, they're like used car salesmen or politicians; not to be taken seriously.
if anything, press coverage seems a sign that the people involved are fucking up, letting their pride and egos get in the way of what should be a discreet business. yes, people develop reputations, people get busted and plenty of gangsters are household names - but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're the best at what they do. once bloody news.com.au are talking about you, you're probably not going to have much chance of flying under the radar.

no matter who you know, or what you think you know, i'm sure there is a lot more going on than anyone can really be sure of.
and to be honest, if people really did know that much about the illegal industries we are talking about here, they probably wouldn't be blabbing about it on an internet forum.
Click to expand...

QFTFT!

@headdah, if you re-read all my posts I said I was commenting only on my area and what I know from the guys I grew up, and clearly wrote many that many times, but it seems the only one that was trolled was you. Who are you to question what I know about my own area :)
 
LE already knows all these shit alot of guys in that life r snitches how can a guy who makes millions and the cops dont know what hes doing??.This isnt CSI were cops r are super intelligent and use technology and science to catch criminals i would honestly say that 99% of the time they catch someone is through snitching.
 
I Think all criminals are scum(organized ones) regardless
of ethnicity. The things bikies to do innocent people( bash
the living fuck out of them ) and other stuff is cruel.

There all outlaws, outlaws usually have a dollar over there head. :D
 
if you find drug dealing and crime and gangland convictions and all that stuff compellig, http://www.austlii.edu.au/ is the best site (i read it just because i find the legal system fascinating) but supreme court cases are all published and give lots on non sensationalised accounts of how drugs are imported distrubted without the hype of the media, also all sorts of other crimes

maybe this is of no relevance to "bikes' as such but for those speculating about things of a criminal nature may find it interesting if your are not aware the resource exisists

i personally find the decision making process more fascinating than the actual events but there are some interesting tales on their
 
SONS OF ANARCHY: Bikies relax rules to recruit young thugs

SONS OF ANARCHY: Bikies relax rules to recruit young thugs

Funeral today for slain gang member Giovanni Focarelli
Gangs look to recruit and groom more diverse members
Chapter targets street gang with members aged 13-17
Click to expand...


OUTLAW motorcycle gangs have relaxed strict membership criteria, leading to more diverse and violent gang cultures, the country's peak crime body has warned.
As police plan a strong presence at today's funeral of slain gang member Giovanni Focarelli, the Australian Crime Commission says the gangs have changed their rules in an effort to recruit and groom members from motorcycle clubs and street gangs.

In an attempt to counter declining membership and strengthen their position against rival gangs, groups have evolved from a core of Caucasian males to more diverse mixes, the commission says. Many gangs now include members with Middle Eastern backgrounds - some who don't even ride motorcycles - and younger members recruited from street gangs.

The commission says as well as increased violence, this has led to aggressive expansion and control of illicit markets and less respect for the unwritten rules of the "traditional biker".
"Some outlaw motorcycle gangs are recruiting street gangs and their members to assist in the distribution of illicit drugs and contraband," ACC chief executive John Lawler said.
"Some of these gang members are later recruited and become fully-patched members."

Mr Lawler said one South Australian bikie chapter actively had recruited from a street gang with members aged between 13 and 17 years.
"Over a short period of time, the recruits from the street gang not only became fully-patched members, but asserted themselves as prominent group members," he said.
SA Police Assistant Commissioner (Crime) Grant Stevens agreed bikie groups were more diverse but said a culture of extreme violence had always existed.

"We know their culture of violence is such that members and associates take any opportunity to intimidate and cause harm and use violence to further their criminal activities," he said.
Mr Stevens said eight temporary detectives joining the Crime Gangs Task Force would bolster police operations to disrupt bikie activity.
"Major Crime has responsibility for the Giovanni Focarelli murder and other crime areas, such as the Drug Investigation Branch and Organised Crime Investigation Branch, conduct investigations which support the Crime Gangs Task Force," he said.

A new management plan to come into effect next month means every area of the state's police will contribute in some way to monitor gang members and their associates.
"The management plan will result in a greater focus on the activities of all outlaw motorcycle gang members wherever they might be at any time," Mr Stevens said.

Under the new plan, the Crime Gangs Task Force will direct police officers to target gang members in their local service areas.
They will enforce bail and warrant matters, while also playing a greater role in investigating bikie associates over street-level drug dealing and associated offences.​

here
 
spacejunk said:
no matter who you know, or what you think you know, i'm sure there is a lot more going on than anyone can really be sure of.
and to be honest, if people really did know that much about the illegal industries we are talking about here, they probably wouldn't be blabbing about it on an internet forum.
Click to expand...

True words! Shouldn't expect anything less from spacejunk...well said mate great post :)
 
i saw a clubhouse in QLD once. And i've seen alot of shit drugs up there as well.. Just saying.
 
headdah said:
haha, spacejunk,

you are absolutely right YO.

No I dont actually beelive taht Sydney is solely runn'd by Azn triads etc etc. Nor the Brothels :D

I just said what I said, to stir up mr.Kronniicca. He seems to think he knows a hell of a lot about Syd's underworld.

But realistically, bahhahhaha, He knows fuckall :)

so here I say again.

Azn Pride ;>

GOT RICEEEEEEEEEEEEE

A
Click to expand...


well years ago when i was into mdma/xtc it was asian groups that were the big suppliers of the md precursors and powder. well them and still the traditional european links but from around 03 i noticed mdma sourced from asia was more common. the problem with sourcing from europe (i would think) would be the issue with the different hands it would take to get to you, i would think along the way the powder would be slowly getting cut.

i recall one time years bak too these pills came in circle that where from italians, that was the first real time i heard any talk about italians or mafia, these pills where the cleanest and strongest i have ever had, rumour was these were aparently made that way the elleviate powder getting cut issues, but who really knows. the second time i heard anything about italians was recently when a mate who may or may not be in a bikie gang was telling me how some particular gang was chasing up some other ppl over cash lost from some dodgy e'/ripped off (green hearts i believe) and how money was owed to these mafia guys and they had to pay them. (some twisted shit about money), short story these gang members didnt want to not pay these mafia people on time, it didnt seem like they were scared it seemed like thats how it normally is and thats how its gotta be kinda thing.

lebs are good are low and medium level due to their willingness for violence but that works against them cos i would think the big guns would need to be clean, respected people who dont seem out of place. lebs lovve to make themselves heard and seen.

cocaine is an example. lebs are the most visual in the scene, yes there would be bigtime players but they dont dominate as much as they would seem, lebs do however have a skill at building know-how and other than bikie gangs i would say lebs would be the masters of distribution. i have found the italians are big in coke, same as asians and caucasians. theres no real dominance of cocaine
 
Fossil_Diver said:
Bikers without bikes LOL. Here in the US we call them "sidewalk commandos". Bikies...what a joke.
Click to expand...

lol i have had afew convos with my canadian relatives on the bikie/biker terms... its funny cos here in aust if you called one a biker they would get offended, making a insult as biker is more referred to push bike rider or mountain bike rider or mountain biker, whereas its the opposite in canada and the usa where if you called them a bikie they would take it as an insult... its like for like really, each countries has a different word meaning.

in europe there are also bikie gangs that are considered bikies without bikes.

its like how in canada and the usa using the word 'cunt' is like the ultimate swear word you would only use if you truely hated someone, and using calling someone a 'looser' is loosely used and not meant to cause insult. the opposite is in australia, using 'cunt' is loosely used and often is not meant to cause insult, and calling someone a looser here is not commonly used unless u actually dont like them.

i was seeing a canuck when i was in canada and she was in a bad mood and i said 'why are you acting like a cunt'. lol i couldnt understand why she got so angry, so kept saying what gives you the right to call me a cunt. i would say i didnt i said why are you acting like a cunt lol...
my meaning - why are you acting like the way you are
her meaning - he just called me a cunt.
 
Charles Bronson said:
Northern Queensland...MA/MDMA Labs...Nomads...That's all I'm saying.
Click to expand...

U got to be kidding me LOL

smooch0 said:
^ thats really helping LE... alot! delete delete!
Click to expand...
Do you believe everything people post on forums?

We all prob dont know alot of shit that is happening at the moment but like Spacejunk posted and like others have said those who dont know talk and those who know dont. Most people put one and two together based on real facts but we all know how complex mathematics really is! There's alot more involved tbh. Im 99% sure that the reason why we didnt and still dont have that many MDMA beans is because of the italian mafia going down with tonnes of MDMA back in 2008.

Here's the link
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national...-arrest-mr-bigs/2008/08/08/1218139032584.html

I have read heaps of other articles and news about how they were also involved in importing huuuge amounts (talking tonnes) of cocaine. And we also know about there cannabis plantations which were there primary source of funding until they stepped up to the harder drugs due to the demand. These guys were at it decades ago. Did any of you guys knew who they were? I certainly didnt til they went down. They were doing this for decades like I said. People with that much power obviously would keep things quite. After all this happened there were pills emerging but what kind? Did any of guys find that they were consistent with quality? A lot of gangs were stepping up trying other means to get into this lucrative market as there was sooo much money to be made.

Im pretty sure that like the people above me posted the bikies/gangs were good at distribution and had some links to the mafia through various people but since there gone it turned to shit creek. I have spoken to a lot of people about this and a very good friend of mine who is a Federal agent. Can talk to him about anything and also ask questions to a certain extent. I never know anything until the actual thing has happened as its highly confidential investigations but I get a lot of information from him. He is always telling me about raids that they just did and so forth every time I ask him why he is so tired LOL Im a very curious person and like to know things the way they actual happen if possible. Other than that most of the things we have all talked about is just purely speculation and in no way accurate.


http://www.smh.com.au/world/four-face-trial-over-mafiarun-drug-ring-20100110-m0tg.html
 
Last edited:
There's a Bandido's clubhouse near where I used to live, they meet there regularly but it wasn't until Friday night I've actually seen police there as well. Lot of cop cars driving around or parked nearby, and plenty of police standing around watching the proceedings, making sure they don't take their drinks outside the premises.
 
Mr Blonde said:
There's a Bandido's clubhouse near where I used to live, they meet there regularly but it wasn't until Friday night I've actually seen police there as well. Lot of cop cars driving around or parked nearby, and plenty of police standing around watching the proceedings, making sure they don't take their drinks outside the premises.
Click to expand...

Well my old car was blacklisted because of my brother. One of his mates at school invited him over once or twice for a few drinks, and he was pulled over when coming out of the club house, every time that car was pulled over was basically searched. Most club houses are under surveillance from LEO, others more discretely than some.
 
I removed a bunch of immature posts that were essentially just bickering. Kroniic I don't know who or what you know, and couldn't really care to speculate on it, I do tend to find those who like to talk about how much they know don't often know quite so much as they think but that is just my experience. If you are really as affiliated as you like to think then it really would behoove you to be a little bit more discrete about your claims.

To everyone else, while I understand your skepticism none of us know kroniic personally and can call him a liar. Aside from that, there is no merit in attacking someone just because you believe their claims to be false, it just clutters the forum with more shit. If we could get back on topic that would be great...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top