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The Bikie Wars
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kroniic
Bluelighter
Don't know where you are, but in Sydney 90% of the drug trade is controlled by the bikies, they may not be importing/ making the drugs but they sure are trafficking it. Every rave/ event I've been to, the runners generally pay off the bikies to get their bikkies in, the pot and meth run around the suburbs is controlled by the bikies. Hell even tattoo shops and brothels are.
thestudent14
Bluelighter
True Melbourne does struggle with MDMA, but the city is loaded with Meth.
It's not run by bikies as far as I can tell, and alot of the time the bikies just move shit for other kiingpins. Their boss's are the people you don't hear about and their the ones calling the shots.
To say that 90% of drugs come from bikies is laughable, the shit I get is higher up in the chain then them, because I know people who selll it to distributors who sell it to bikies.
I gotta take headdahs side on this one. A huge portion of drugs in Australia are still imports. The Asians still have big connections here and even the Mexican Cartel has hit our borders and I would be my left nut they'll send re-enforcements instead of backing down.
I guess the point I'm saying is, the criminal bikie gangs in Melbourne are low level. They don't have the numbers/power or prestige they have in Sydney and Adelaide. But don't think Melbourne is missing out because of them. Most drugs are still everywhere in Melbourne Meth/Weed/Cocaine/RC's/LSD/ketamine are all pretty easy to score. I'm Lucky enough to get MDMA too, but mine comes from Adelaide haha
It's not run by bikies as far as I can tell, and alot of the time the bikies just move shit for other kiingpins. Their boss's are the people you don't hear about and their the ones calling the shots.
To say that 90% of drugs come from bikies is laughable, the shit I get is higher up in the chain then them, because I know people who selll it to distributors who sell it to bikies.
I gotta take headdahs side on this one. A huge portion of drugs in Australia are still imports. The Asians still have big connections here and even the Mexican Cartel has hit our borders and I would be my left nut they'll send re-enforcements instead of backing down.
I guess the point I'm saying is, the criminal bikie gangs in Melbourne are low level. They don't have the numbers/power or prestige they have in Sydney and Adelaide. But don't think Melbourne is missing out because of them. Most drugs are still everywhere in Melbourne Meth/Weed/Cocaine/RC's/LSD/ketamine are all pretty easy to score. I'm Lucky enough to get MDMA too, but mine comes from Adelaide haha
Sustanon
Bluelighter
Dont get me started on bikies. Wtf is this then?
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/bikie-refused-bail-over-car-dealer-extortion-charge-20110712-1hbsy.html
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...lty-of-extortion/story-e6frg143-1226139241312
I could link 100's of articles from the past. The key players of the drug trade arnt always the bikies. Most, not all are supplying low quality cut shit meth made in there backyard sheds. How many super labs that were busted were run by them? The real key players u will never hear about. U know why we didnt have any MDMA pills for such a long time? The Calabrian mafia went down in VIC, 4.4 tonnes of MDMA was seized and a bunch of other things including coke. Its no coincidence that everyone was referring to and calling weak pills bikie pills as alot of them were repressed. When u mention bikies why is the word meth associated with them? Why not anything else? Correct me if I am wrong, It frustrates me a lot. Bikies in Sydney are made up of mainly young lebs and islanders (No racism intended). The youngens 14-18 year olds do there dirty work for them whilst the older ones collect the cash. I exactly know what is going on, I hear it all the time. I know a federal agent and is always telling me what is happening and how crazy it is out there. Its getting worse and worse with all these little teens with there shootings especially in South west of Sydney. Its pretty bad. Drug mentor u are spot on man.
Esotericism
Bluelighter
Can tell you right now that isn't so just from the market share the triads control.
Your full of shit there is way more independent dealers out there than bikies.There is probably 3 times as much middle easten gangs than there are bikies.What about the eastern suburb crowds do u think these rich kids and jews get there shhit from bikies too?
Sustanon
Bluelighter
Yeah some people just pull info out of there ass! Brothels are run by fuking asian gangs, do u think they would want to pay taxes and shit to scum bikies? I doubt it. Its prob the other way around LOL
kroniic
Bluelighter
And who are these Middle Eastern Gangs you speak of? You don't have to be a bikie to be working with them, you're still an associate. Around my area (Bankstown) it is predominantly Middle Easterners, who all work together with the bikies, so your theory is out the window.
kroniic
Bluelighter
Really? I know of 5 different bikies that have brothels in a single area. Maybe go down to Canberra and see who owns all the brothels and strip clubs down there?
kroniic
Bluelighter
Then again look at all the shootings out west by "Middle Eastern Gangs" that have been over different bikies controlling the pot run in different suburbs.
Sustanon
Bluelighter
http://www.crikey.com.au/2008/03/10/any-tom-dick-or-harry-can-own-a-nsw-brothel/
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8412677/brothel-owner-trafficked-thai-women
"The brothel owner is of Chinese-Cambodian background but police would not reveal his status in Australia or whether he could face deportation if found guilty"
I doubt there are too many Asian bikies LOL This example is one out of a thousand if not more.
A very high percentage of brothel employees are Asian. They are usually promised Visa's/citizenship/money etc etc etc. So if a member or an associate of an Asian crime gang brings these girls into Australia with all that trouble why the hell wouldnt they run the brothels themselves when the money to be made is ridiculous? Who controls the majority of Heroin / Cannabis and Ice market/ importation in Australia? The Bikies? pff yeah sure if you want to believe that lol Why are bikies known to extort money from people? If they were such key players they wouldnt need to do that sort of scummy shit. The shootings have been happening because of low level dealers having issues with territories and small debts.
"Other motives under investigation for the recent shootings include a low-level drug war, and isolated ''business'' disputes among criminal gangs"
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-frustrated-by-10th-driveby-shooting-20120117-1q4sz.html
Man innocent people and there houses are getting shot at, it really fuking shits me! Thats what happens when young teenage bikies and associates get there hands on weapons and are doing stupid things. Dont you read the news man? Sorry if I come off rude man but I put one and two together from facts not pulling things straight from my ass.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8412677/brothel-owner-trafficked-thai-women
"The brothel owner is of Chinese-Cambodian background but police would not reveal his status in Australia or whether he could face deportation if found guilty"
I doubt there are too many Asian bikies LOL This example is one out of a thousand if not more.
A very high percentage of brothel employees are Asian. They are usually promised Visa's/citizenship/money etc etc etc. So if a member or an associate of an Asian crime gang brings these girls into Australia with all that trouble why the hell wouldnt they run the brothels themselves when the money to be made is ridiculous? Who controls the majority of Heroin / Cannabis and Ice market/ importation in Australia? The Bikies? pff yeah sure if you want to believe that lol Why are bikies known to extort money from people? If they were such key players they wouldnt need to do that sort of scummy shit. The shootings have been happening because of low level dealers having issues with territories and small debts.
"Other motives under investigation for the recent shootings include a low-level drug war, and isolated ''business'' disputes among criminal gangs"
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-frustrated-by-10th-driveby-shooting-20120117-1q4sz.html
Man innocent people and there houses are getting shot at, it really fuking shits me! Thats what happens when young teenage bikies and associates get there hands on weapons and are doing stupid things. Dont you read the news man? Sorry if I come off rude man but I put one and two together from facts not pulling things straight from my ass.
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headdah
Bluelighter
kronnic my friend, why do you worship the bikies and defend their honour like a teenage girl worship justin beeper. ;P
just because you know of some bikies etc etc. Doesn't mean you are right. Of course these bikies that you know are gonna tell you they own this they own that they run this shit they run that shit. No one is willing to admit they actually work for Asians/Italians etc etc. Especially someone with a status like a bikie.
Face the facts brother.
Azn Pride.
bahaha ;D
just because you know of some bikies etc etc. Doesn't mean you are right. Of course these bikies that you know are gonna tell you they own this they own that they run this shit they run that shit. No one is willing to admit they actually work for Asians/Italians etc etc. Especially someone with a status like a bikie.
Face the facts brother.
Azn Pride.
bahaha ;D
I live near bankstown too the lebs there are differant group of guys who get together to make money there r no gangs there the guys dont walk around claiming a group.So which club has a presence there then ?The lebs who r in bikie gangs dont give a shit about the club look at the parra HA they were nomads first then become bandidos then became HA why if bikie gangs r so powerful the nomads and bandits didnt go after them for leaving them?.Say tommoro the assyrian kings or another gang wanted to join a omg i guarentee u they could pick any club and they will give them a clubhouse and bikes
Notice how the triads or italians never bow down to lebs its because they dont need them because they make more money and control importation
kroniic
Bluelighter
You live near Bankstown? I live in Bankstown and know a shit load of the "Middle Eastern Gangs" through school and generally around the area. They are all associates of Bankstown. I can think of 3 guys who are king pins in the area within a 1km radius that are all known associates of several bikie gangs. One of em use to be/ still is partners with a certain Parramatta bikie. I think I know a lot more than you do about my area and how the guys that I know and grew up with around here operate.
A relative of mine was gunned down who basically ran the Cross, not something I am proud of, but don't underestimate my knowledge.
junkie skumbag
Bluelighter
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kroniic
Bluelighter
Eat me JS 
kroniic
Bluelighter
Oh just FYI, I am of Leb descent.
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
Lets try and stray away from dicksizing about connections and shit in this thread, this site gets enough attention from LE without people announcing how they are relatives or associates of criminals. At the end of the day there is nothing to be gained from the boasting anyway.
IMO though the last post by Sustanon is on the money.
IMO though the last post by Sustanon is on the money.
headdah
Bluelighter
oh what. u say sustanon's post is right on the money, what bout mine????
dont u think mine is on te money too???
disrespecting me again mofo.
i have beef with you now!
(JUST KIDDING) ;p
or am i :D
/azn prideee
dont u think mine is on te money too???
disrespecting me again mofo.
i have beef with you now!
(JUST KIDDING) ;p
or am i :D
/azn prideee
this isn't directed at anyone in particular, but i think all this crap about [whatever] group runs [whatever] percentage of [whatever] is just pointless speculation.
there are bikie affiliations with all sorts of organised crime, as there are with various other gangs or groups.
whether these gangs are ethnically based or have a motorcycle club culture is neither here nor there - in some areas, bikies are dominant/visible whereas in other areas, it may be (or seem) completely different.
brothels are all run by one nationality? yeah right! maybe where you are, but i don't think this is the case australia wide. i don't frequent or have anything to do with brothels or prostitutes but i live in a red light district, and what i've observed over the last ~5 years isn't consistent with that at all. yes, there are asian sex slaves in australia, but i really don't think it is the whole industry.
just because it might be the case somewhere, doesn't make it the case everywhere.
sydney has a well publicised gangland situation at the moment, and other cities and regions have their own outlaw groups.
just because the scene is dominated by an underworld culture in one area doesn't make it true for the whole country or even the entirety of that local area. the assumption that "lebanese gangs", "asian gangs" and "bikie gangs" (etc etc etc) don't cooperate and collaborate when it suits them seems a bit simplistic. some people have their fingers in a lot of pies, but this idea that it is all universal is just not true. maybe in sydney, but i don't know - i don't live there.
not to mention the fact that the tabloid press reporting on something doesn't make it true. "the news" is not a source of accurate information, especially in matters of crime. sex, drugs, violence, gangs; sensational, lurid headlines - designed to sell papers - which is what they exist for. they're not there to inform us of the important issues of the day, but to put out the juiciest headline possible to make joe everyman go and buy one so he can get his vicarious thrill from reading it. everybody loves a gangster story, especially with a bit of racial bogeyman thrown in. this is a journalist's bread-and-butter, they're like used car salesmen or politicians; not to be taken seriously.
if anything, press coverage seems a sign that the people involved are fucking up, letting their pride and egos get in the way of what should be a discreet business. yes, people develop reputations, people get busted and plenty of gangsters are household names - but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're the best at what they do. once bloody news.com.au are talking about you, you're probably not going to have much chance of flying under the radar.
no matter who you know, or what you think you know, i'm sure there is a lot more going on than anyone can really be sure of.
and to be honest, if people really did know that much about the illegal industries we are talking about here, they probably wouldn't be blabbing about it on an internet forum.
there are bikie affiliations with all sorts of organised crime, as there are with various other gangs or groups.
whether these gangs are ethnically based or have a motorcycle club culture is neither here nor there - in some areas, bikies are dominant/visible whereas in other areas, it may be (or seem) completely different.
brothels are all run by one nationality? yeah right! maybe where you are, but i don't think this is the case australia wide. i don't frequent or have anything to do with brothels or prostitutes but i live in a red light district, and what i've observed over the last ~5 years isn't consistent with that at all. yes, there are asian sex slaves in australia, but i really don't think it is the whole industry.
just because it might be the case somewhere, doesn't make it the case everywhere.
sydney has a well publicised gangland situation at the moment, and other cities and regions have their own outlaw groups.
just because the scene is dominated by an underworld culture in one area doesn't make it true for the whole country or even the entirety of that local area. the assumption that "lebanese gangs", "asian gangs" and "bikie gangs" (etc etc etc) don't cooperate and collaborate when it suits them seems a bit simplistic. some people have their fingers in a lot of pies, but this idea that it is all universal is just not true. maybe in sydney, but i don't know - i don't live there.
not to mention the fact that the tabloid press reporting on something doesn't make it true. "the news" is not a source of accurate information, especially in matters of crime. sex, drugs, violence, gangs; sensational, lurid headlines - designed to sell papers - which is what they exist for. they're not there to inform us of the important issues of the day, but to put out the juiciest headline possible to make joe everyman go and buy one so he can get his vicarious thrill from reading it. everybody loves a gangster story, especially with a bit of racial bogeyman thrown in. this is a journalist's bread-and-butter, they're like used car salesmen or politicians; not to be taken seriously.
if anything, press coverage seems a sign that the people involved are fucking up, letting their pride and egos get in the way of what should be a discreet business. yes, people develop reputations, people get busted and plenty of gangsters are household names - but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're the best at what they do. once bloody news.com.au are talking about you, you're probably not going to have much chance of flying under the radar.
no matter who you know, or what you think you know, i'm sure there is a lot more going on than anyone can really be sure of.
and to be honest, if people really did know that much about the illegal industries we are talking about here, they probably wouldn't be blabbing about it on an internet forum.