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The Bikie Wars
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NotAgain!!
Ex-Bluelighter
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My solution:
Let em' kill each other like dogs.
My treatment solution:
Leave the corpses throughout the streets of Melbourne. Addict dead, ehh? Who gives a hoot?
Let em' kill each other like dogs.
My treatment solution:
Leave the corpses throughout the streets of Melbourne. Addict dead, ehh? Who gives a hoot?
OND43X
Bluelighter
I thought id get this one back up as there has been an increase in shootings the last month or so and some murders in western sydney (some gang related). around merrylands/parramatta there is tit for tat shootings between the different bikie gangs and assioiates in te area. The nomads parramatta chapter has supposedly reformed and members were at fast food shop in merrylands and hells angels members found out nomads were there and shot up the place.
on 60 minutes on sunday night i watched with amusement the over dramatised story on the gold coast as the so called new 'crime capital', there didnt seem to be anything different to the crime that was reported in the story then what you would hear about in all the australian capitals. i think most of thier issues its seems is the police forces being inadequate.
on 60 minutes on sunday night i watched with amusement the over dramatised story on the gold coast as the so called new 'crime capital', there didnt seem to be anything different to the crime that was reported in the story then what you would hear about in all the australian capitals. i think most of thier issues its seems is the police forces being inadequate.
i dont agree with you. yes theres alot of pointless driveby shootings but there is also alot more shootings in sydney than there is in melbourne. during the melbourne gang wars there were about double the amount of murders in sydney than in melbourne (so some do hit flesh instead of brick lol). also if williams or the calton crew could of taken sydney, they sure would of tried to. they would of at least attempted to intimidate the sydney groups because there is alot more money to be made in sydneys underworld than melbournes. recent events seems to show that sydneys organised crime groups have more influence over melbourne. most of the weapons used in melbourne shootings recently has been bought from sydney and the drug trade in melbourne is controlled out ofhere too (generally speaking in the large scale).
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Yeah but were talking aboout gang related muders not every muder that happens in the city.Look at this so called bikie war thats been going on for 2 years 1 person has died and thats it so how is this a war
"also if williams or the calton crew could of taken sydney, they sure would of tried to"
Williams and Gatto liive 800km from sydney why would they try to take over it
"also if williams or the calton crew could of taken sydney, they sure would of tried to"
Williams and Gatto liive 800km from sydney why would they try to take over it
Sameria
Bluelighter
^Not everything makes it onto the national news.
Also, who determines what is a war and what is not? is there a certain number od death needed to meet the requirement??
Also, who determines what is a war and what is not? is there a certain number od death needed to meet the requirement??
Mr Blonde
Bluelighter
Money?
impossibleisnothin
Greenlighter
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it seems like it might come as a surprise to some of yous but i know for a fact that a popular bikie group are quite wealthy and according to the treasurer of said group (whom i am quite close family friends with) they are not amongst the richest of the more well known groups. it seems as though they are quite smart with their money and have it tied up in different organisations.
So then that would mean that a mexican cartel because they r so powerfull would also look to take over some of the weaker cities in the world because they have the means to??
Sustanon
Bluelighter
They take over ours as well if u havnt heard of it.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/mexican-cartels-infiltrate-australia-20111010-1lhkg.html
http://www.smh.com.au/world/mexican-cartels-infiltrate-australia-20111010-1lhkg.html
OND43X
Bluelighter
like sustonon commented above with a link to a Sydney newspaper article, Mexican cartels have already done what you said ace, apparently around 50% of cocaine in sydney / Australia is from the Mexican cartels now. When i wrote in a previous post about stronger groups/gangs etc takeing over another area, it isnt always by typical violence or physical presence, often its having an influence over supply like the case with Mexican cartels in sydney and Sydney groups in Melbourne and most of aust. And like i said before if Williams and other Melbourne groups during and after the gang wars were able to they would of tried taking Sydney in some way, but fact is it was Sydney groups controlling them.
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OND43X
Bluelighter
can anyone find figures on gang related shootings for the major cities in Australia. I no Sydney would most prob have the most but it would be interesting to see proper figures for the cities
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
There ain't a lot of value in bickering which groups are badder than others or what State based Organisations are having more influence on others, for starters most of whats said can only be speculation and second its got very little to do with HR.
I would be interested to see the figures of shootings in our different capital cities, I would agree that its likely Sydney has the most, but just because some low-medium level players are running around like idiots with guns does not neccessarily mean that said groups have more money, power or influence.
I would be interested to see the figures of shootings in our different capital cities, I would agree that its likely Sydney has the most, but just because some low-medium level players are running around like idiots with guns does not neccessarily mean that said groups have more money, power or influence.
Sustanon
Bluelighter
Dont forget man a lot of the shootings that happen in Sydney arnt always gang related. Just some wannabee 16 year old's (from West Sydney particulary in Guildford, Bankstown and etc etc dont have to mention suburbs as u prob already know )shooting at each other over something silly or just for the sake of discharging a firearm. Its really sad to see it as its getting quite bad.
TripppAR
Bluelighter
Heaps goes un-reported as well ay sust.. ^
Im closely related to a President of one of if not the most notorious Bikie Gang in the world, its pretty damn obvious they have a large steady cash flow. Clubhouses aren't cheap, and keep in mind a lot of bikies don't work. The property owned by my relative would be worth millions. Dope grows and amphet labs are rampant, however Meth is strictly forbidden amongst the bikies themselves after the Christopher Hudson incident. They banished him knowing he had brought heat onto the organisation and they knew the police would focus on them had they not got rid of him.
They may look rough but they're quite sophisticated and have a very efficient way of conducting their operations un-detected. Also they don't have hoards of cash, its laundered into all sorts of ventures. Clubs/Pubs/Real Estate.
Everything here is absolutely incorrect. Meagre means of making money? Man you are misguided.....the recent shooting in Brunswick, Toby Mitchell drove a porsche and resided at the Brunswick club house which was valued at 2.4M+.
As for the bashing death of Peter Anthony Zervas at Sydney Airport, it was an unexpected contact. They dont care about witnesses, hence why they employ Master-of-Arms to dish out punishment. They don't care, you think a rival bikie gang will press charges? The biggest drug Cartel in the world the Sinaloa Cartel in Mexico kill dozens in the street everyday, in fact the death count in Mexico due to the drug war is at 45,000, and you call bikies dumb for getting in a punch on at an airport? It's called intimidation, who is going to testify against them? Also funny how all suspects were bailed out for large sums if they are so amateurish. Cartels like the ones in Mexico reside in countries that have Governments who have little power over drug manufacture, unlike here making it very easy to export. So to compare Cartels to Bikie Gangs is idiotic as drug manufacture here involves more risk, as well as importation. The head of the Sinaloa Cartel Joaquín Guzmán Loera aka El Chappo is Number 1 on the DEA's Most Wanted List. Name a President of a Bikie Gang that is currently being sought after. I can't think of one....once again, not so amateur after all.
Tell me what stupid things they do to extract wealth? Their Canada chapter was busted.... 177 strikes were conducted by the police, 123 members were arrested, charged with for first-degree murder, attempted murder, gangsterism or drug trafficking. The police seized $5 million in cash, dozens of kilograms of cocaine, marijuana and hashish, and thousands of pills.
Add to that:
A low level drug dealing group doesn't have 230 chapters in 27 countries. Half the drugs you consume more than likely originated from the bikies or by a cook employed by them.
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TripppAR
Bluelighter
Word.
Or affiliates.
You do realise that 99% of the time they dont own the clubhouses they rent a building space and turn it into a club house so say a chapter has 20 guys and the rent is 800 thats split between 20 guys so its not that expensive (and yes just recently i was in one)
It doesnt mean shit what car u drive i was 19 and had the latest M3 because my uncle died and left it for me i also know a guy who drives a porsche and still lives at home because all his $$ goes on his car
OK its called a sargent of arms not Master-of-Arms and you do realise that the sydney airport fight had over 100 witnesses who TESTFIED in court against the comos this is why they got found guilty and their leader is probably going to be in jail for lifeso i dont know wher u got that none testified
Are u seriously calling Chapo Guzman an amtuer compared to a bikie president in Australia LOL Chapo guzman is a billionaire
U cant compare the the American hells angels to the australian
It doesnt mean shit what car u drive i was 19 and had the latest M3 because my uncle died and left it for me i also know a guy who drives a porsche and still lives at home because all his $$ goes on his car
OK its called a sargent of arms not Master-of-Arms and you do realise that the sydney airport fight had over 100 witnesses who TESTFIED in court against the comos this is why they got found guilty and their leader is probably going to be in jail for lifeso i dont know wher u got that none testified
Are u seriously calling Chapo Guzman an amtuer compared to a bikie president in Australia LOL Chapo guzman is a billionaire
U cant compare the the American hells angels to the australian
junkymandan
Bluelighter
wow really? biker wannabes that are dumb enough to start a war with the HA ..arresting them wouold be saving lives..wearing a patch at all in the Us is a sure way to get killed in some areas it should be easy picking for cops and that will take heat off the angels...dumb just dumb posers who want to get prison or death just for fun? weird
With your grammar im not surprised you misconstrued what i said. I said El Chappo, like the bikies didn't care whether people were a witness to the violence his gang caused, nor did the Hells Angels in Sydney. Business continued.
And they do own clubhouses, i've been to 5 in two different states. You really think a landlord would allow them to build barricades out the front?
My point stands, they're a sophisticated criminal network who are by no means fiscally strapped.
The Amercan HA and the Aussie HA's may be involved in different criminal activities, but if you wear the patch you are bound to the same code. You can't tell me they don't collaborate when it comes to drug importation, weapons trafficking and money laundering.....please!!!!!!!!